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Offlinekakashi68
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Why are TV networks still around... no one is making them go away.
    #21753770 - 06/02/15 05:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

So in the modern world more and more things are being pushed to the internet such as news, businesses, letters ect. But TV seems to have resisted this. When its clearly outdated. Community for example struggled pretty hard to stay afloat on networks yet THRIVED on yahoo screen. Because its target audience is young, meta and mostly on 4chan or the like. Im surprised how well TV is still doing. I dont see why TV are still getting bigger and people are still paying enormous amounts of money for them. Why would you want to watch something at a scheduled time when you could just watch it whenever you want. Like yes netflix is there and doing really well. But networks arnt really feeling any pressure and still doing quite well.

Still dont understand how you let all your religious nuts censor tv so much. Like the average person/child can go on the internet and see all kinds of evil shit just as easy as they could turning on the TV. Yet adults have to suffer through HORRIBLE writing that has to edge around situation where swear words just BEG to be written into the script... but no... adults cant swear on tv... for example hannibal, chicago pd, family guy, american dad just to name a few. All very adult shows have to be limited because of your fucked up outdated TV values.

So back to the point. Why exactly is TV still so popular... Why has no one made the switch to internet. If you offer it in HD and make it live people are still gunna watch it even if it has ads. And then we can FINALLY move away from being controlled by "neilsen families" and ratings being the almighty god. And move to ACTUAL viewing statistics which can be easily calculated on the internet to find out what people are REALLY watching.

get your shit together america. TV was the one thing you did right in this world.


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Re: Why are TV networks still around... no one is making them go away. [Re: kakashi68] * 1
    #21753789 - 06/02/15 05:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You still have many generations of people who have were not born during the digital information age. Give it time. TV is already fading, it just won't go out with a boom like you're expecting.


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Re: Why are TV networks still around... no one is making them go away. [Re: MoxyOx]
    #21753793 - 06/02/15 05:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Radio should have died in the 1950s.

It's still around and stronger than ever.


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Re: Why are TV networks still around... no one is making them go away. [Re: kakashi68]
    #21753798 - 06/02/15 05:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

TV is cool. I like it anyhow.


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Re: Why are TV networks still around... no one is making them go away. [Re: kakashi68]
    #21753856 - 06/02/15 05:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You havent had real TV until you have gotten the X1 tuner from Comcast.

Its like Windows 8 combined with an HD DVR.

Its flipping AWESOME.

Lots of Free On Demand shows.

The best and i dont even work for Comcast either

I just love the expensive service :shrug:


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Re: Why are TV networks still around... no one is making them go away. [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #21753893 - 06/02/15 05:42 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I think one of the main reasons is fragmentation.  There's:  Netflix, hulu, redbox streaming, HBO now, blockbuster on demand, Amazon, all the sports networks etc. etc. 

Everyone is trying to cash in on streaming, so they're limiting their content.  It seems if you want ALL the content, you need 50 million subscriptions. 

Then there are some (minor) hardware issues.  For example, Amazon streaming is pretty limited on non-computer devices (e.g., my blu-ray doesn't have it).  Put this all together, and it can be a pain to stream.

Probably of secondary importance, but I think streaming quality is inferior to TV.  It is certainly not as good as blu-ray (for movies).  I'd prefer to pay $2 at redbox for a disc.


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Re: Why are TV networks still around... no one is making them go away. [Re: kakashi68]
    #21753966 - 06/02/15 05:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Something to do with internet providers owning all the major television companies. They're making more money now than they ever have.


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Re: Why are TV networks still around... no one is making them go away. [Re: badchad]
    #21753986 - 06/02/15 06:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Good point.

Fragmentation is anti-convenient.

TV tuners are collections of A LOT of channels and movies. Super convenient for all.

Personally, I think using a remote control and TV is more relaxing then dealing with watching movies/TV on a computer. Maybe Im just lazy or sumthang :shrug:


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Re: Why are TV networks still around... no one is making them go away. [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #21754006 - 06/02/15 06:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Oh yeah I don't have a 60 inch laptop either. TV wins!!!!


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Re: Why are TV networks still around... no one is making them go away. [Re: badchad]
    #21754012 - 06/02/15 06:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

There's something about waiting for your favorite TV show to come on.  Work like a dog all day, deal with the family, do this take care of that, then you sit down in front of your tv for the next couplease hours to wind down and realize it's  Thursday and the big bang theory is on! A show you enjoy.  And its not the same as DVRing a show then watching it.  There's a certain pleasure on waiting for a good show and then watching it live.

Where the hell are prole going to watch football every Sunday and monday.  Not on some online channell that's for sure.  Sports ratings are higher then ever.  TV is going no where.  It will be here for the rest of your lifetime.  If newspapers are still around TV is in no danger of getting phased out.


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Re: Why are TV networks still around... no one is making them go away. [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #21754048 - 06/02/15 06:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

TV networks are fading, they will not go away but may go on cable or internet only. Over air broadcasting is on the way out, but crap programing for dolts will always be in demand. People want to be able to sit down, flip on the boob tube and be pandered to for a few hours.

One thing slowing the shift to internet is slow speeds. Gigabit isp's are coming but most areas don't have them. Then you can steam as fast as a cable channel and people will wonder why they should use antennas or regular cable. Fiber optic is another technology that goes with gigabit speeds, you can't do as much with copper.


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Re: Why are TV networks still around... no one is making them go away. [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21754295 - 06/02/15 06:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

The biggest problem with tv moving to the internet is it isn't that different. You still have cable company presence online through the different packages. Directv gold package, amazon prime(not cable same concept), hbo has one I'm sure. All these different deals might only cost 10 dollars a month, but when each one has only one show you want to watch, it adds up ridiculously fast.

Then you still have ads online, which honestly online are way more annoying. At least with tv, you can count on a five minute commercial break to get up and grab something to drink, and a variety of commercials helps to break up the monotony. Online, you will see the same ad 1-4 times in a row per break. Sure "get ad block", but if cable companies are gonna make the jump to switching to online only, you bet their ass they're gonna try and pass some law, or create some software that would block ad block and yes they definitely have the money to develop something like this.


And lets not forget how unreliable the internet is. In my whole life, and going through 5 internet providers(at least) i don't think I've ever gone a full month without the internet fuckimg up for at least one full day. Not.to mention the fact that how annoying will it be when your favorite show can't be watch because some hacktivist, anonymous, 4chan lizard squad retard decides to ddos your favorite streamer one day.


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Re: Why are TV networks still around... no one is making them go away. [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21754316 - 06/02/15 07:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

The video quality of on-air TV is better than ever and it's free. I think it's the cable tv model that is really going down hard. Cheap and broke motherfuckers will still be rocking the antenna.


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Re: Why are TV networks still around... no one is making them go away. [Re: kakashi68] * 1
    #21754334 - 06/02/15 07:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

We have TV because it makes a profit.  You're welcome for today's lesson in economics.  Please send me several hundred dollars for the cost of this college level economics course.


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Re: Why are TV networks still around... no one is making them go away. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21754345 - 06/02/15 07:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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psi said:
The video quality of on-air TV is better than ever and it's free. I think it's the cable tv model that is really going down hard. Cheap and broke motherfuckers will still be rocking the antenna.





Ohh ya!:sunny: I was just reading up how you can make your own tv station pretty easily which I thought was pretty damn cool.:peace:

On a second note. I love tv for its schedules and randomness. Thats what differs it from netflix/ pickyour own shows. You can figure out what works for your schedule and just go with it!

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We have TV because it makes a profit.  You're welcome for today's lesson in economics.  Please send me several hundred dollars for the cost of this college level economics course.




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Re: Why are TV networks still around... no one is making them go away. [Re: LuSiD enthusiast]
    #21754514 - 06/02/15 07:44 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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DTCharlieB said:
There's something about waiting for your favorite TV show to come on.  Work like a dog all day, deal with the family, do this take care of that, then you sit down in front of your tv for the next couplease hours to wind down and realize it's  Thursday and the big bang theory is on! A show you enjoy.  And its not the same as DVRing a show then watching it.  There's a certain pleasure on waiting for a good show and then watching it live.

Where the hell are prole going to watch football every Sunday and monday.  Not on some online channell that's for sure.  Sports ratings are higher then ever.  TV is going no where.  It will be here for the rest of your lifetime.  If newspapers are still around TV is in no danger of getting phased out.




You sound really old. Not everyone has that lifestyle, but i agree with you, I dont want netflix style shows. I do want to wait and have one episode a week, not everyone works 9-5 or wants to "wait" for when it suits the network rather than we its suits me. TV will die in my lifetime(well maybe not die but leave the mainstream), if not the earth itself.

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The biggest problem with tv moving to the internet is it isn't that different. You still have cable company presence online through the different packages. Directv gold package, amazon prime(not cable same concept), hbo has one I'm sure. All these different deals might only cost 10 dollars a month, but when each one has only one show you want to watch, it adds up ridiculously fast.

Then you still have ads online, which honestly online are way more annoying. At least with tv, you can count on a five minute commercial break to get up and grab something to drink, and a variety of commercials helps to break up the monotony. Online, you will see the same ad 1-4 times in a row per break. Sure "get ad block", but if cable companies are gonna make the jump to switching to online only, you bet their ass they're gonna try and pass some law, or create some software that would block ad block and yes they definitely have the money to develop something like this.


And lets not forget how unreliable the internet is. In my whole life, and going through 5 internet providers(at least) i don't think I've ever gone a full month without the internet fuckimg up for at least one full day. Not.to mention the fact that how annoying will it be when your favorite show can't be watch because some hacktivist, anonymous, 4chan lizard squad retard decides to ddos your favorite streamer one day.





well those companies are the "cable" companies. I would think and hope that everything would work more like community and yahoo screen. I dunno what ads your watching but TV ads are just as shit and repetitive. Even if they pass a law(which they wont and cant globally) people will get around it.

And for people crying about quality and internet. Look at where we were 10 years ago in speed. My internet never fucks up either.


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Re: Why are TV networks still around... no one is making them go away. [Re: Shortknight]
    #21754530 - 06/02/15 07:47 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I was just reading up how you can make your own tv station pretty easily which I thought was pretty damn cool.:peace:





A real TV station with more than a tiny amount of power could get you into trouble, the broadcast regulators take that shit really seriously. I have a device that will broadcast video on analog channels between 14 and 17 that I got from a Radio Shack in a small town. It looked like it had been on the shelf since the 80s or so.

I think the simplest way of broadcasting video over a small area might be to have an open wifi network with a pretty big antenna and then just stream the video over it.


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Re: Why are TV networks still around... no one is making them go away. [Re: kakashi68]
    #21754629 - 06/02/15 08:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Im surprised how well TV is still doing. I dont see why TV are still getting bigger and people are still paying enormous amounts of money for them. Why would you want to watch something at a scheduled time when you could just watch it whenever you want.



You do realize that modern TVs can also be used as computer monitors, right? Big screens are popular because the experience is more immersive, and they are much cheaper now than in the past.


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Re: Why are TV networks still around... no one is making them go away. [Re: Patlal]
    #21755069 - 06/02/15 09:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Radio should have died in the 1950s.

It's still around and stronger than ever.



things get better, generally. but there is growing pains.


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Re: Why are TV networks still around... no one is making them go away. [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21755128 - 06/02/15 10:01 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Television will slowly pass to make way for streaming services for sure but I think it will always relevant. Eventually more streaming services will be made available and they will just evolve into the networks we know as today. Netflix is a prime example as they continually to exponentially grow their productions.

An interesting phase of television is how social media is beginning to play in effect of viewing.

Networks disappear when the money for the advertising does.


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Re: Why are TV networks still around... no one is making them go away. [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21755145 - 06/02/15 10:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I dont even own a TV. I also never understood how anyone enjoyed scheduled programming. The few TV shows I enjoy watching, i download them off my phone.

Also, I have a monitor rather than a TV to play my xbox on.


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Re: Why are TV networks still around... no one is making them go away. [Re: ak47myth]
    #21755416 - 06/02/15 10:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I dont even own a TV. I also never understood how anyone enjoyed scheduled programming. The few TV shows I enjoy watching, i download them off my phone.

Also, I have a monitor rather than a TV to play my xbox on.



If you enjoy watching a certain show with friends it makes that a lot easier. I mean yiu could still do it if it were all online, but i guarantee 99% of people u asked would say, "oh i already saw it"


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Re: Why are TV networks still around... no one is making them go away. [Re: LuSiD enthusiast]
    #21755431 - 06/02/15 11:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

TV networks and streaming services will slowly merge in to the same damn thing.

I don't care too much for subscription television, I haven't had it for years, but I do think it's cool my country is starting to make providers offer their services on a channel basis rather than packages full of shit no one watches. That's actually making me reconsider not having something other than netflix.


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