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OfflineBitter Cactus
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Re: getting stoned isn't as fun anymore [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21759070 - 06/03/15 08:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

The talkative people are usually the posers that don't even inhale and keep asking if they are high every five seconds.


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Re: getting stoned isn't as fun anymore [Re: Bitter Cactus] * 2
    #21759084 - 06/03/15 08:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Please stop trolling, it is getting old as fuck

I get talkative and I can assure you I inhale quite deeply and don't ask (myself) every 5 minutes if I am high.


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Re: getting stoned isn't as fun anymore [Re: Bitter Cactus] * 1
    #21759087 - 06/03/15 08:30 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Bitter Cactus said:
No bud cannabis smoke contains carcinogens get over yourself.




Here you illustrate part of your MO that is so annoying. I never claimed MJ had no carcinogens, I claim that your numbers were wrong, and that in this case and others past, you offer unsupported and demonstrably incorrect information/opinion as "fact".

When called out on you simply move the goalposts and address something that was never in question to begin with. So what is it? Trolling, intellectual laziness, inability to follow a conversation? Some combination I would imagine.


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Re: getting stoned isn't as fun anymore [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21759129 - 06/03/15 08:43 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Bitter Cactus said:
The talkative people are usually the posers that don't even inhale and keep asking if they are high every five seconds.





That's not true, man.


but im sure theres some cases of that


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Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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OfflineBeanhead
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Re: getting stoned isn't as fun anymore [Re: Bitter Cactus] * 1
    #21760322 - 06/04/15 04:51 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Bitter Cactus said:
No bud cannabis smoke contains carcinogens get over yourself.




Nicotine alters the mechanism responsible for cleaning up the lungs of mucus (tars).

THC does not. It's a bronchodilator.


Edited by Beanhead (06/04/15 08:12 AM)


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Re: getting stoned isn't as fun anymore [Re: Beanhead]
    #21760641 - 06/04/15 08:09 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Honestly when I smoke now, it's to hang around this girl I like to match. Very lame I know


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Re: getting stoned isn't as fun anymore [Re: starsNbars]
    #21760781 - 06/04/15 09:04 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Fuck her while you smoke a blunt


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Re: getting stoned isn't as fun anymore [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #21761032 - 06/04/15 10:12 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I plan on trying Nitrous while getting head soon.  I wanna know what it would be like to cum right as I inhale that sweet sweet hippie crack


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Re: getting stoned isn't as fun anymore [Re: The Doobie Dude]
    #21761035 - 06/04/15 10:13 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I get my girlfriend to suck my cock while I smoke weed all the time. It's just so relaxing. :awesomenod:

I return the favour of course.


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Re: getting stoned isn't as fun anymore [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21761042 - 06/04/15 10:16 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Bitter Cactus said:
No bud cannabis smoke contains carcinogens get over yourself.




Are you seriously just stupid or do you not care?
I told it definitely contains carcinogens but it was proven over ten years ago that they are different than tobacco smoke and do not cause cancer.

There is plenty of research to support that cannabis carcinogens may have and adverse effect on cancer cells and actually be able to cure cancer.


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Re: getting stoned isn't as fun anymore [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #21761077 - 06/04/15 10:25 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Malcolm_Xtasy said:
Fuck her while you smoke a blunt




Blowen & Blowen

Smoking a joint (blowen in Dutch) whilst getting head


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Re: getting stoned isn't as fun anymore [Re: MinnesnowtaNice]
    #21762614 - 06/04/15 06:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

MinnesnowtaNice said:
Quote:

Bitter Cactus said:
No bud cannabis smoke contains carcinogens get over yourself.




Are you seriously just stupid or do you not care?
I told it definitely contains carcinogens but it was proven over ten years ago that they are different than tobacco smoke and do not cause cancer.

There is plenty of research to support that cannabis carcinogens may have and adverse effect on cancer cells and actually be able to cure cancer.



He's retarded, put him on ignore, that's what I'm going to do.


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Re: getting stoned isn't as fun anymore [Re: drr]
    #21762653 - 06/04/15 06:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

And make sure to rate him, too.


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Re: getting stoned isn't as fun anymore [Re: MinnesnowtaNice]
    #21762679 - 06/04/15 06:35 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

MinnesnowtaNice said:
Quote:

Bitter Cactus said:
There is plenty of research to support that cannabis carcinogens may have and adverse effect on cancer cells and actually be able to cure cancer.




Not true, although the carcinogens in cannabis smoke are generally much safer than tobacco smoke. Cannabis smoke has carcinogens in it and they MUST cause cancer because that is what carcinogen means.

But the chemicals in cannabis can slow, stop, and even reverse cancer itself.


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OfflineBitter Cactus
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Re: getting stoned isn't as fun anymore [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #21762716 - 06/04/15 06:43 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

There is zero proof cannabis cures any cancer in humans tho. There have been no clinical trials and the studies they have done have been with animal cells in petri dishes with high concentrations of THC. Often drugs show promise to cure cancer with the animal cells in petri dishes but do fuck all in the clinical trials. There is no evidence that proves cannabis cures cancer in humans. It helps with the symptoms and that is it.


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Re: getting stoned isn't as fun anymore [Re: Bitter Cactus] * 1
    #21762736 - 06/04/15 06:48 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

No studies at all?

"A new study by Salazar et al. in The Journal of Clinical Investigation demonstrates that THC causes tumor cells to begin to degrade themselves from the inside (a process called autophagy, i.e. “self-eating”). Although autophagy has been shown to promote cell survival in some cases and cell death in others, the authors show that in this case it causes cancer cells to undergo programmed cell death (apoptosis). Thus, THC activates a series of events within cancer cells, inhibiting tumor growth."


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Re: getting stoned isn't as fun anymore [Re: Trichome_Delta9]
    #21762737 - 06/04/15 06:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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No studies at all?

"A new study by Salazar et al. in The Journal of Clinical Investigation demonstrates that THC causes tumor cells to begin to degrade themselves from the inside (a process called autophagy, i.e. “self-eating”). Although autophagy has been shown to promote cell survival in some cases and cell death in others, the authors show that in this case it causes cancer cells to undergo programmed cell death (apoptosis). Thus, THC activates a series of events within cancer cells, inhibiting tumor growth."




Absolutely zero clinical studies in humans that say that THC cures cancer.


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Re: getting stoned isn't as fun anymore [Re: Bitter Cactus] * 1
    #21762784 - 06/04/15 06:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

"Autophagy can promote cell survival or cell death, but the molecular basis underlying its dual role in cancer remains obscure. Here we demonstrate that delta(9)-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), the main active component of marijuana, induces human glioma cell death through stimulation of autophagy. Our data indicate that THC induced ceramide accumulation and eukaryotic translation initiation factor 2alpha (eIF2alpha) phosphorylation and thereby activated an ER stress response that promoted autophagy via tribbles homolog 3-dependent (TRB3-dependent) inhibition of the Akt/mammalian target of rapamycin complex 1 (mTORC1) axis. We also showed that autophagy is upstream of apoptosis in cannabinoid-induced human and mouse cancer cell death and that activation of this pathway was necessary for the antitumor action of cannabinoids in vivo. These findings describe a mechanism by which THC can promote the autophagic death of human and mouse cancer cells and provide evidence that cannabinoid administration may be an effective therapeutic strategy for targeting human cancers."


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Re: getting stoned isn't as fun anymore [Re: Bitter Cactus] * 1
    #21762785 - 06/04/15 06:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Bitter Cactus said:
Quote:

Trichome_Delta9 said:
No studies at all?

"A new study by Salazar et al. in The Journal of Clinical Investigation demonstrates that THC causes tumor cells to begin to degrade themselves from the inside (a process called autophagy, i.e. “self-eating”). Although autophagy has been shown to promote cell survival in some cases and cell death in others, the authors show that in this case it causes cancer cells to undergo programmed cell death (apoptosis). Thus, THC activates a series of events within cancer cells, inhibiting tumor growth."




Absolutely zero clinical studies in humans that say that THC cures cancer.



:llamastare:


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OfflineBitter Cactus
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Re: getting stoned isn't as fun anymore [Re: Trichome_Delta9]
    #21762804 - 06/04/15 07:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Trichome_Delta9 said:
"Autophagy can promote cell survival or cell death, but the molecular basis underlying its dual role in cancer remains obscure. Here we demonstrate that delta(9)-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), the main active component of marijuana, induces human glioma cell death through stimulation of autophagy. Our data indicate that THC induced ceramide accumulation and eukaryotic translation initiation factor 2alpha (eIF2alpha) phosphorylation and thereby activated an ER stress response that promoted autophagy via tribbles homolog 3-dependent (TRB3-dependent) inhibition of the Akt/mammalian target of rapamycin complex 1 (mTORC1) axis. We also showed that autophagy is upstream of apoptosis in cannabinoid-induced human and mouse cancer cell death and that activation of this pathway was necessary for the antitumor action of cannabinoids in vivo. These findings describe a mechanism by which THC can promote the autophagic death of human and mouse cancer cells and provide evidence that cannabinoid administration may be an effective therapeutic strategy for targeting human cancers."




Those studies were not done in clinical trials with humans. Read closer buddy.


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