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Re: getting stoned isn't as fun anymore [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #21753866 - 06/02/15 05:36 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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People say weed doesn't demotivate them and make them anxious. My attitude is that is bullshit.

You have to fight the tiredness and the anxiety it gives you. Those are simply the effects.

If you want something that is motivating and calming try kratom. The effects will make you feel that way themselves.



Weed makes me do shit.

Krat makes me want to do nothing.

Weed doesn't make me tired or anxious. For someone who says he avoids weed like the plague, you pretend to know an aweful lot, especially considering you can't handle the high.






Yeah weed is motivating - both in the present and it helps me set goals and actually follow through with them.

I am not really sensitive to weed's depressant/sleep inducing effects, and I am sure there are others out there who are the same. The only strain that truly puts me to sleep is herijuana, but that is debated as the most narcotic strain ever.

To me, marijuana just makes me super happy and it makes everything feel like a sunny day and you are just chill as fuck sipping on a cold drink... that is weed, just all the time. I don't how anxiety comes from that.





My question to people with bad experiences with weed, what exactly are you anxious about? Is it just general day to day shit (bills, calling someone, upcoming meetings, etc)? Do you feel like someone is following you? Does it seem like everyone is looking at you? Or is it a bit of everything?


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Re: getting stoned isn't as fun anymore [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #21754083 - 06/02/15 06:16 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Gottaloveacid said:
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XLCaps said:
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Bitter Cactus said:
People say weed doesn't demotivate them and make them anxious. My attitude is that is bullshit.

You have to fight the tiredness and the anxiety it gives you. Those are simply the effects.

If you want something that is motivating and calming try kratom. The effects will make you feel that way themselves.



Weed makes me do shit.

Krat makes me want to do nothing.

Weed doesn't make me tired or anxious. For someone who says he avoids weed like the plague, you pretend to know an aweful lot, especially considering you can't handle the high.






Yeah weed is motivating - both in the present and it helps me set goals and actually follow through with them.

I am not really sensitive to weed's depressant/sleep inducing effects, and I am sure there are others out there who are the same. The only strain that truly puts me to sleep is herijuana, but that is debated as the most narcotic strain ever.

To me, marijuana just makes me super happy and it makes everything feel like a sunny day and you are just chill as fuck sipping on a cold drink... that is weed, just all the time. I don't how anxiety comes from that.





My question to people with bad experiences with weed, what exactly are you anxious about? Is it just general day to day shit (bills, calling someone, upcoming meetings, etc)? Do you feel like someone is following you? Does it seem like everyone is looking at you? Or is it a bit of everything?



I agree with most of what you're saying.

But as for the question about weed anxiety - that's just it. It isn't anxiety "about" anything. It's totally irrrational fear. For me, my heart beats fast and strong, I feel very anxious, maybe a bit light headed, and out of breath. Your typical anxiety attack. It doesn't have to be about something in your life. It's tough for people without anxiety to imagine, I know, but anxiety is totally irrational. It's not about paranoia, or being self-conscious, or being worried about my life or my future. It's just the pure sensation of fear, and it sucks.


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Re: getting stoned isn't as fun anymore [Re: drr]
    #21754093 - 06/02/15 06:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yep the anxiety is totally irrational and I can tell myself there is nothing to be anxious about and still be in panic.

It is the weed high itself that does this.


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Re: getting stoned isn't as fun anymore [Re: drr]
    #21754096 - 06/02/15 06:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

yeah for me it's the high itself that makes me paranoid.


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Re: getting stoned isn't as fun anymore [Re: D.M.T]
    #21754103 - 06/02/15 06:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Interesting :strokebeard:


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Re: getting stoned isn't as fun anymore [Re: D.M.T]
    #21754119 - 06/02/15 06:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

:shrug:

Yeah it sucks and yet I still risk it daily. I love smoking pot. It doesn't happen very often but when it does, it sucks. If I keep the dose very low, I'm fine. Which saves me a lot of money... I can make an eighth last me a week, staying high pretty much constantly.

If I smoke the right (tiny) amount, it's still very enjoyable and brightens up my day.


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Re: getting stoned isn't as fun anymore [Re: drr]
    #21754201 - 06/02/15 06:40 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

stop judging your own feelings just go with the flow. its called being high.


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Re: getting stoned isn't as fun anymore [Re: Trichome_Delta9]
    #21754223 - 06/02/15 06:44 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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stop judging your own feelings just go with the flow. its called being high.




See my post above:

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It isn't anxiety "about" anything. It's totally irrrational fear. For me, my heart beats fast and strong, I feel very anxious, maybe a bit light headed, and out of breath. Your typical anxiety attack. It doesn't have to be about something in your life. It's tough for people without anxiety to imagine, I know, but anxiety is totally irrational. It's not about paranoia, or being self-conscious, or being worried about my life or my future. It's just the pure sensation of fear, and it sucks.




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Re: getting stoned isn't as fun anymore [Re: drr]
    #21754248 - 06/02/15 06:48 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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stop judging your own feelings just go with the flow. its called being high.




See my post above:

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It isn't anxiety "about" anything. It's totally irrrational fear. For me, my heart beats fast and strong, I feel very anxious, maybe a bit light headed, and out of breath. Your typical anxiety attack. It doesn't have to be about something in your life. It's tough for people without anxiety to imagine, I know, but anxiety is totally irrational. It's not about paranoia, or being self-conscious, or being worried about my life or my future. It's just the pure sensation of fear, and it sucks.







I used to have "anxiety" then I stopped thinking of it as such and now I don't see it as anxiety and it doesn't bother me like It used to.

someone gave me that advice and it has been the best "anxiety" advice I have ever been given.


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Re: getting stoned isn't as fun anymore [Re: D.M.T]
    #21754269 - 06/02/15 06:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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yeah for me it's the high itself that makes me paranoid.





exactly. thats what i was trying to explain in my post. Paranoia and anxiety are just part of the high. Whenever i look back at a time when i was paranoid, i laugh pretty hard because of how irrational it was.

There are also times where the paranoia was justified and if i wasnt extremely paranoid, something bad would have happened




Simply being alive makes me anxious and paranoid. Thats what i am anxious about, the fact that i am alive


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Re: getting stoned isn't as fun anymore [Re: Trichome_Delta9]
    #21754271 - 06/02/15 06:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Ime real anxiety isn't something that you can just ignore and it goes away... It is a physical or chemical disturbance in the brain rather than something you can just ignore


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Re: getting stoned isn't as fun anymore [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #21754312 - 06/02/15 07:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Ime real anxiety isn't something that you can just ignore and it goes away... It is a physical or chemical disturbance in the brain rather than something you can just ignore





you don't ignore it you just stop calling it anxiety and using it as an excuse to freak the fuck out.
don't go against that "anxiety" go with it. don't make up shit to freak out about.

trust me I have had bad anxiety in my past but you can change it. it only sounds hard. just stop sitting there like "oh no I have anxiety right now" because that way youre damning your self into freaking out.


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Re: getting stoned isn't as fun anymore [Re: Trichome_Delta9]
    #21754371 - 06/02/15 07:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Gottaloveacid said:
Ime real anxiety isn't something that you can just ignore and it goes away... It is a physical or chemical disturbance in the brain rather than something you can just ignore



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Gottaloveacid said:
Ime real anxiety isn't something that you can just ignore and it goes away... It is a physical or chemical disturbance in the brain rather than something you can just ignore





you don't ignore it you just stop calling it anxiety and using it as an excuse to freak the fuck out.
don't go against that "anxiety" go with it. don't make up shit to freak out about.

trust me I have had bad anxiety in my past but you can change it. it only sounds hard. just stop sitting there like "oh no I have anxiety right now" because that way youre damning your self into freaking out.



You don't get it. It's cool but stop trying to argue about it. I'm happy for you that you overcame your anxiety, but you obviously do not get it.


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Re: getting stoned isn't as fun anymore [Re: drr]
    #21754375 - 06/02/15 07:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

im not arguing im just trying to help others who suffer the same thing. some people don't want to be helped.


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Re: getting stoned isn't as fun anymore [Re: drr]
    #21754377 - 06/02/15 07:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I like taking drugs

then getting stoned :awehigh:

Amphetamine + weed not so much for working tho

But GABAergics + weed

fuck yeah

It isn't as fun anymore
Untill I get around the people I have fun with
Or I just sit alone at home, comfortable, not aching :awehigh:


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Re: getting stoned isn't as fun anymore [Re: Beanhead]
    #21754381 - 06/02/15 07:16 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Anything that isn't an upper + weed = :aweohyou:


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Re: getting stoned isn't as fun anymore [Re: nastynaven]
    #21754449 - 06/02/15 07:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I made the mistake of allowing my drug use to progress.  At least with weed when you realize it isn't fun anymore you can just stop :sad: No high is worth trading away being able to get through the day like a normal person.  If you're having trouble finding enough joy in life smoking trees all day, before you decide to start mixing in alcohol, or checking out what all these mystery chemicals kids are buying off the internet, maybe consider taking a break from drugs, or at least self-medicating.

I get anxiety from weed.  Like someone else said, it was a real problem for a while, then one time I had a trip (or maybe just a revelation sans psychs, I forget :stoned:) and I was like, 'so fucking what?' and since then I still get the anxiety, but I just deal with it alot better, and have even learned to direct that into things I enjoy, which I couldn't even do on speed.  So my relationship with weed has changed of the years, but at this point I think it is the best drug ever, by any measure, and people who question that are all trolls.

Seriously it's fantastic.  The fact that it isn't all that and a bag of chips is part of it's charm.  It is the best recreational drug as well as overall health tonic.


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Re: getting stoned isn't as fun anymore [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #21754461 - 06/02/15 07:34 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

i stopped smoking like  8 years ago cause of psychosis

i heard from a close doctor friend of mine that 1 out of 10 people experience psychosis from weed


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Re: getting stoned isn't as fun anymore [Re: leafing]
    #21754470 - 06/02/15 07:36 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah well that is a fair reason to stop, but there is no evidence that marijuana causes psychosis, at least not when compared to nearly any other psychoactive drug.  Any stressor can stir up underlying mental disturbances.

1/10 sounds awful high to me.  I wonder how psychosis would be defined there.


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Re: getting stoned isn't as fun anymore [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #21754484 - 06/02/15 07:38 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Yeah well that is a fair reason to stop, but there is no evidence that marijuana causes psychosis, at least not when compared to nearly any other psychoactive drug.  Any stressor can stir up underlying mental disturbances.

1/10 sounds awful high to me.  I wonder how psychosis would be defined there.



1/10 close doctor friends aren't real anyway.


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