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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: Tantrika]
#23338287 - 06/13/16 01:58 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Was hoping for something a lot more epic than a port of various mods already on the PC ... but dishonored 2 and prey look epic
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: twighead]
#23338348 - 06/13/16 03:03 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah it was a bit discouraging to see them move on with such little DLC content, but the lack of content kind of feels par for the course with Fallout 4 on the whole.  Maybe I feel too jaded on the prospect of Nuka World, but it feels like Far Harbor is really the high point the game is going to see in terms of quality of content.
Dishonored 2 looks like it will provide a fantastic time though.  The two different characters having different skill sets should make for a few interesting playthroughs. The city also looks like great fun to get around in. Am a little surprised that they did not name-drop it when they were talking about VR plans, because it would make for a wicked VR experience. Perhaps they just wanted to focus on what they could provide demos of though -- am presuming the Skyrim Remaster will be getting VR in the future as well, considering it is now basically just Skyrim in the Fallout 4 Engine.
At least the Skyrim remaster is free on PC for anyone who already has the original + DLC. 
Prey looked interesting, but was a little confusing to take in. Had to rewatch it a couple times to make sense of it.
Quake Champions sounds like a great prospect though -- high end arena FPS, and they already have a good basis to launch from in terms of tournament circuit. Quakecon this year may be really interesting. Wonder if Commander Keen will make a special appearance as one of the heroes.
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: Tantrika]
#23340049 - 06/13/16 04:06 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/06/13/e3-2016-bethesda-is-working-on-the-elder-scrolls-6 "I could sit here and explain the game to you, and you would say, 'That sounds like you don't even have the technology. How long is that going to take?' So it is something that's going to take a lot of time, what he have in mind for that game, and we actually have two other large projects we're also doing that are bigger than everything we've done. People will probably hear about those even before Elder Scrolls 6. That'll make sense many years from now"
Sounds like VR to me.
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: Cj-B]
#23340399 - 06/13/16 06:00 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah, they really seem to be in on the idea of building it from the bottom up.
At first, thought that them throwing in with HTC Vive was more a jab at Oculus due to the legal issues between Bethesda and Oculus regarding VR. Microsoft's presentation apparently announced that Fallout 4 VR will be on Xbox1S VR as well. Kind of presuming PS4.5 VR will run it as well.
Bethesda could be throwing all-in with VR, which is just fine by me. An Elder Scrolls 6 built from the ground up as a full VR experience would be enthralling in a profound new way.
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: Tantrika]
#23344399 - 06/14/16 05:58 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bethesda themselves actually put out an article today basically saying that VR is how they plan to move forward:
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At this year’s BE3 Plus event, Bethesda demoed two virtual reality experiences. Along with a tour of hell in DOOM, which exhibited idTech 6’s impressive next-gen graphics and rendering, attendees also had an opportunity to experience the world of Fallout 4 in VR. Dogmeat your Pip-Boy and combat come alive like never before.
“Since we first showed off modern VR with DOOM 3 BFG at E3 2012, we have dedicated ourselves to the technology, constantly pushing ourselves forward,” said Bethesda VP of Marketing & PR Pete Hines.
Bethesda also announced that Fallout 4 will be released in 2017 on the HTC Vive.
“We think that VR is the perfect fit for truly immersive games like our massive open-world RPGs,” Hines said. At BE3 Plus, attendees were given a taste of what’s to come, exploring the world of Fallout 4, using the game’s Pip-Boy and interacting with Dogmeat – all in full virtual reality. “If you thought Survival Mode was an intense Fallout experience… you ain’t seen nothing yet,” Hines said.
Fallout 4’s upcoming VR release is just a glimpse of where Bethesda is headed with VR. It’s all part of Bethesda’s drive to remain a leader in cutting edge technology – including VR – and to offer fans the best games on whatever platform they choose.
https://bethesda.net/#en/events/game/bethesda-goes-virtual-at-be3-2016/2016/06/12/141
If 2017 is when large game companies start to make the jump to VR, the platform could really find a good pair of legs.
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: Tantrika]
#23350933 - 06/16/16 12:32 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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So, the Nuka World DLC has its own Steam page now, and the details on the page may alleviate some of my concerns regarding how substantial it will be.
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Take a trip to Nuka-World, a vast amusement park now a lawless city of Raiders. Explore an all-new region with an open wasteland and park zones like Safari Adventure, Dry Rock Gulch, Kiddie Kingdom, and the Galactic Zone. Lead lethal gangs of Raiders and use them to conquer settlements, bending the Commonwealth to your will. Nuka-World features new quests, Raiders, weapons, creatures, and more. Enjoy the ride!
Page. The page also has a couple of new screenshots that show some of the broken down roller coaster.
Really hope one of the Raiders gives out settlement raiding quests in the manner of: "I just got word that another Settlement is doing fine, I'll mark it on your map, go take what they have."

For serious though, that it has a number of zones within the park makes me think it may hopefully be larger than Automatron in terms of content. Still not likely Far Harbor size, but it could be quite interesting.
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: Tantrika]
#23351674 - 06/16/16 04:32 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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i cant believe bethesda is remastering skyrim i seriously thought it was a joke when i first heard about it. there are already mods that do a better job than they could.
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: Adolin]
#23352269 - 06/16/16 07:23 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah, I thought it was a little ridiculous as well. Todd Howard actually stated that mods can make the game look better in an interview about it, and gave that as reason why PC gamers get it for free. Realistically, they made most of their sales on consoles, so if they can use an upgrade and mod capability to draw in repeat buyers, then that makes an ideal cash-grab. Also presume the real reason PC players get a copy for free is because they ported it over to the Fallout 4 engine, and now need modders to re-create/update their mods so they work on console at all.
On the plus side though, if the game crashes less and they up the memory limits mods could potentially carry it even further in terms of visual quality. Unfortunately for console players, the really good animation and visual overhauls + ENB rely on third-party programs that Sony and Microsoft would likely never allow. At least they will finally get to try out some of the quest mods and such though.


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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: Tantrika]
#23365850 - 06/21/16 05:32 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Wasteland Workshop 2 (Contraptions) released last night. It is an improvement over the first one, but still cannot recommend it for people who did not get the cheap Season Pass. Personally really enjoy the Settlement system, but would not pay full price for the pack.
Elevators are nifty for things like Skyscrapers, as they seem to be able to be built into the center of interior spaces. Not sure yet if Settlers properly use them though. The Pillory/Stocks either is glitched or Settlers don't actually stay in it. Tried to put one in long enough to take a screenshot of them getting hit in the face endlessly with a paintball gun, but they just unlocked themselves and left. Mama Murphy can only be assigned to it like in the video if she does not already have a chair, which means that is not even an option for my main character.  The Catapult felt more satisfying.
The new Power Armour Displays are kind of cool though

More interested in the Vault creation pack next month, as it apparently also has a brief questline and actual functionality in it.
Meanwhile, likely to fall back into Skyrim for a while. Quite enjoying the look of the game with Vivid Weathers + Tetrachromatic ENB. 




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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: Tantrika]
#23365863 - 06/21/16 05:45 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I haven't played this game in weeks now. I know there's a far harbour dlc but eh, can't be arsed.
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Visionary Tools said: I haven't played this game in weeks now. I know there's a far harbour dlc but eh, can't be arsed.
It's honestly better than the vast majority of the base game content imo
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: Cj-B]
#23396315 - 06/30/16 04:14 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Am personally sticking around the game more for the modding community than for the official content at this point, but Far Harbor was definitely excellent as an addition.
Am working on learning 3D modelling for armour, objects and buildings. Aside from my more large-scale plans to work on Montréal, have decided to keep myself sane with some more manageable projects. Since Cannabis Skyrim has been ported as Cannabis Commonwealth already, may look into making craftable harvestable beehives, and maybe a way to turn honey into antibiotics. Raise awareness for the bees.
The learning process is a bit of a pain, there is a lot of porting from program to program because no one program really fully supports Fallout 4 .nif files yet.
Bethesda is also having problems getting mods working on PS4 at all, and had to delay the release. Not sure if it is purely tech related, or they want to make sure their new security measures against stolen mods are in place before allowing their biggest customer base access. Kind of presuming that they are working through things so they can move to a paid mods system with Skyrim, but not sure if Fallout 4 mods will transition to paid at that point or they will keep the system free forever.
Still hoping that Nuka World will be solid, and that the Vault workshop will add some flavour in the meanwhile. The bulk of my hopes are turned towards the modding community now though. It is nice that we have started getting real quest mods and stuff; and Vivid Weathers Fallout version has been a nice improvement.



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Visionary Tools said: ... It does look good but I'm gonna wait for some wh40k power armour because in the grim darkness of the far future, shoulder pads are really fashionable. There's a weapon cricket sells, it's a legendary tommy gun called spray n pray where the bullets explode on impact. That's close enough to a bolter for my tastes. Deals with mirelurks and power armoured fools a treat.
So I can respect that you have not bothered to play recently, but as soon as I saw this mod go up I thought you may appreciate a heads up on it anyway.
The Space Marine: www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/15901/
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: Tantrika]
#23414343 - 07/05/16 04:46 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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So their next expansion "Nuka World" - which looks pretty boring and uninspired to me, is going to be the last for fallout 4...
Damn you bethesda for making me so jaded
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: twighead]
#23414387 - 07/05/16 05:02 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I just wish the game had... you know... FALLOUT for your actions. The greatest thing about fallout 3 imo was when i detonated the bomb in megaton and had to see the FALLOUT of my actions. Not in fallout 4.
Now i finally went to a friends house and downloaded survival mode (playing on ps4) and have to say.
IT'S BADASS!!! We'll see how long before i get sick of it though.
I also downloaded all the dlc excluding far harbor. I figure far harbor seemed the most linear and the other shit (excluding automoton or we it is) has more potential for replay value.
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Most people I've talked to, and I haven't played it myself - say that all the DLC pales in comparison to far harbor and it's basically the only one truly worth getting.
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Ok when i play video games idk about you but i get THE best ideas for features they should put in the game. I'm nust going to rant about what i think would be awesome to add in The game with this post. I'm going to try and avoid complaining about things that were intentionally left out.
This is essentially my fallout 4 wishlist.
Fallout storms:basically snow but it would be radioactive ash falling everywhere.
Destructive environment: Have more objects break apart when shot, be able to blast holes into walls as long as they aren'tan actual location
Mini nuke destruction: when detonating a mini nuke have radiation soak the entire area for at least 1 in game week. All items are turned to ash immediately, al water in the area has a high rad count that slowly depletes over the course of the in game week. Make it a large area too. Then have upgraded versions of everhthing that spawns in there start spawning more.
Ex:super mutants were there before detonation, after maybe they all become mutant warlords, after enough consecutive detonations in the area a super mutant behemoth spawns.
I am at work right now but as soon as i start playing the game i will add to this when more comes to mind.
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: twighead]
#23414462 - 07/05/16 05:26 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Nuka World gives me some hope that they can pull off something solid, because apparently the Nuka World trademark was around for a while, so it could conceivably be well developed. If it is Disney World-esque, as in a large park with multiple themed sub-sections, they could make something interesting of it. Not sure how I feel about the 'run a raider gang' mechanic though -- feels kind of like a substitute for dialogue in playing an 'evil' character. With the roller coaster tracks being in game though, really expecting to see a mod that adds functional roller coaster crafting to Settlement mode. 
Do feel jaded with regards to the Workshop DLCs. If mods had not been supplying so much in terms of addition to Settlements and crafting it they may have felt more satisfying; however, instead they are basically just Bethesda cashing in with a new method for paid mods. There are also patently ridiculous factors to it, like how Far Harbor gave players a full Barn set of Settlement stuff to work with, then Contraptions added in a Warehouse set which was literally just the Barn set with a different colour paint. 
Really wanted to love the Rube Goldberg ball track machines in Contraptions, but it is frustrating that the balls do not actually have physics to them -- can run them down a long slope, but then they do not even build up the momentum to travel up a slight incline.
The conveyor belts have practicality in terms of creating ammo if people do not have/do not want the ammo crafting mod that came out shortly after the game came out though.
Far Harbor is story based, which limits some of the replayability, but the different faction lines to the end spice it up a bit. It was nice to have content where choices mattered more and there were repercussions to decisions. The more liberal use of skill and attribute checks (compared to the main game where it is basically limited to the USS Constitution) was also a nice touch.
Far Harbor was also, ironically, my favourite DLC for Settlement building, as it added multiple interesting new locations to build in. 
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: twighead]
#23414468 - 07/05/16 05:29 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Everyone I've talked to says far harbor was to short and has no purpose after buying. I'll get it eventually but not in a rush atm.
The way i see it is i can do a hundred different thimgs with settlement items vs a giant map with a short quest line. Does far harbor have new settlement locations?
Currently settlements and survival mode are the only thing worth replaying to me atm.
If i were playing on pc I'm sure mods would have completely ruined the dlc for me though.
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Hmmm, well regardless - when I play it even though I bought the game, I'm going to uninstall my legit version and reinstall a pirated version and pirate the DLC's....
I was so pissed off living in the middle of fucking no where with super slow internet when I bought the physical version of the game just so I could play instantly... installed 5gb from the dvd... and had to download the other 20gb.
Not going to give them any more money after that, money has corrupted their company too much as it is....
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