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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: Shroomslip]
#22587154 - 11/28/15 04:25 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah I figured. I was just being sarcastic 
Found me some fusion cores... had to fucking lob some grenades at this chick in power armor because she kept killing me. Got some cores from it though
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: Uzziel] 1
#22587445 - 11/28/15 05:49 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Uzziel said: ... anyone know where to get lots of fertilizer to make jet?
Tend to get fertilizer from new settlements; not sure if people scavenge them for me.
Do not craft much of my own base chems though; just check every cooler/chem box/medical box and end up swimming in them. The mixes are fun though, like Psychojet. 
Drugs are everywhere

(Daytripper bottle)
Also, as a slightly helpful tidbit -- when time is slowed with Jet, don't bother reloading. Personally empty out a clip, then swap to another weapon and empty that out, then swap back. The reload animation wastes too much time, but guns auto-reload on weapon swaps.
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: Tantrika]
#22587771 - 11/28/15 06:59 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I still don't really see the need to make new characters, my dude is master of everything, even from level 1 he can slice anyone with a weapon or shot them down with no issues. Characters don't feel like they progress they just get stronger.
If I make a new character I know I will find myself using the same perks. I found this game doesn't have much re-play value for me compared to NV, I have pretty much stopped playing now because how boring this game is the world is really empty but looks full of things to do. Half the map locations are nothing, just a place where some enemies will spawn or some shitty settlement with a re-hashed quest you've already done 1000 times (kill local ghouls/raiders/mutants) you can talk to hardly anyone only "key characters" for quests & yeah the graphics are dogshit compared to any 2015 releases, Skyrim looks better. This game is like Farcry now, no way is this an RPG. I'll fucking laugh my ass off if this game gets GOTY.
Yeah I know there are alternative endings to the story but eh hardly worth re-playing over & over again just for that when chances are you can just quick-save before the end of the story & re-load to see all the different out-comes. I don't know though because I haven't finished the main story line yet, got too bored with the game itself & the story couldn't keep me interested to keep playing just for the sake of finishing it to know what happens.
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: SludgeCity]
#22587842 - 11/28/15 07:19 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Why do people keep saying it's empty? I get lost for over an hour sometimes just making a couple of detours through random buildings I run across. Do you all just run through blasting everything and that's it? Do you not want to read all the terminal entries or random notes left around?
I mean if all you're doing is running through the streets blasting whatever comes at you, running into a building and blasting everything there and then leaving, I guess I could understand why people think it's empty. If that's what you're doing though, you're playing the wrong game. This isn't a run and gun game.
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: Shroomslip]
#22587881 - 11/28/15 07:27 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Shroomslip said: you're playing the wrong game.
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: SludgeCity]
#22587960 - 11/28/15 07:50 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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SludgeCity said: ... If I make a new character I know I will find myself using the same perks. ...
Can see how it may be difficult to appreciate character diversity, when taking the standpoint of consciously building the exact same character multiple times.
Have four different characters, with quite different builds, values, and morals, that result in experiencing the game in four different ways.
My appreciation for creating and playing as different characters traces back to my days of D&D in high school though. It is a matter of getting as much out of the game as I put in. I spend my time playing different roles, I appreciate Fallout 4 in its capacity to facilitate that.
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: Tantrika]
#22587985 - 11/28/15 08:00 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I tend to do the same. I have a a pretty narrow band of skills I find useful or deem worthy of actually working on. It doesn't even just apply to Fallout or Bethesda games. It's pretty much any game that lets you customize your character. I tend to favor characters that can gain access to things others could not (like lock picking), ranged weapons over melee, unless it's like Skyrim and the ranged is a bow, large carrying capacity and the ability to customize my weapons (or make weapons). Everything else generally takes a backseat to those aspects.
I do plan to start right over after I finish all the quests/missions and stuff. I still haven't quite decided on my build, but it is going to be highly specialized.. Right now I am leaning heavily towards silent assassin/thief. But I also have a tank type character in the back of my mind as well. One that realies heavily on heavy weapons and maybe even spends most of it's time in power armor (it'll be my second play through so I probably won't care too much about console commanding power cores as needed). Personality wise, either almost exclusively good natured or jaded and self-centered. Most likely will have to be the latter, the next time I'm siding with the institute.
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: SludgeCity]
#22588076 - 11/28/15 08:17 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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SludgeCity said: I still don't really see the need to make new characters, my dude is master of everything, even from level 1 he can slice anyone with a weapon or shot them down with no issues. Characters don't feel like they progress they just get stronger.
If I make a new character I know I will find myself using the same perks. I found this game doesn't have much re-play value for me compared to NV, I have pretty much stopped playing now because how boring this game is the world is really empty but looks full of things to do. Half the map locations are nothing, just a place where some enemies will spawn or some shitty settlement with a re-hashed quest you've already done 1000 times (kill local ghouls/raiders/mutants) you can talk to hardly anyone only "key characters" for quests & yeah the graphics are dogshit compared to any 2015 releases, Skyrim looks better. This game is like Farcry now, no way is this an RPG. I'll fucking laugh my ass off if this game gets GOTY.
Yeah I know there are alternative endings to the story but eh hardly worth re-playing over & over again just for that when chances are you can just quick-save before the end of the story & re-load to see all the different out-comes. I don't know though because I haven't finished the main story line yet, got too bored with the game itself & the story couldn't keep me interested to keep playing just for the sake of finishing it to know what happens.
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: SludgeCity]
#22588142 - 11/28/15 08:31 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Please tell me how I suck at "this"
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: propensity]
#22588171 - 11/28/15 08:37 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Anyone know why shipments of crafting materials are so expensive? I mean it's not even just "expensive" it's absurd. Is it really only 25 units of that material or does that shipment somehow break down to a lot more than 25? 1-2k for 25 units is ridiculous. If that was literally the only way you could buy materials from a shop, it would make more sense, but the same people charging you 40-80 per unit, often sell the junk that gives that item for less, and most give you more than one unit when they do get broken down.
Feel like there's something I'm missing that really drops those prices to more reasonable prices, minus the general stats/perks that lower vendor prices entirely.
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: Shroomslip]
#22588223 - 11/28/15 08:51 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Shroomslip said: Did it take forever for everyone else to discover they can actually use cover? Not just hide behind shit but like peek out from it too..
I play purely in first person and have never noticed my character use cover the way npcs do, and I switched to third person and tried to use it and my character didn't do anything. Do you have to press a button to do it because what I read was that it was sort of automatic, but like I said I've never seen my character just do it.
As for using cover to avoid getting nuked and missled, hell yes, just not contextually like the npcs seem to be able to do. I always just assumed it was happening and I didnt see it.
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https://imgur.com/a/EGwRQ
Wish someone had told me that was how it worked. Well now I know, AND KNOWING IS HALF THE BATTLE.
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LuSiD enthusiast said: Also how do you pronounce yao guai? For the longest time i just said fuck it and called them you-E gooey, but recently i realized that it's a chinese bear, so maybe a chinese person would pronounce it like YOW-G-EE, more similar to yogi bear, so i now call them yogi bears. But I'm curious how other people pronounce it.
I always pronounced it like YoW (like YOWWWZZA!) GUY but with a w, like gwuy. I dont know why I say gwuy, maybe I was high and thought YO!, GUY....
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LuSiD enthusiast said: Just got the alien blaster. I fast traveled somewhere for a quest for railroad and there was a white flash and sounded like a fatman went off looked up and didn't see anything. Googled where to find the crash site and went there and found it. Got the alien blaster. Pretty cool how they did it in this game.
I just got that this morning after work as well, though I actually saw the event / flash /crash over a week ago but never could tell from sanctuary where it went down at. Your npc's will comment on it too which is cool.
I finally found the ship this morning sorta on accident when I went to help the settlement thats right there defend from some weaksauce raiders. I thought it was awesome how they did it but I do wish there was maybe a little more to it. Like maybe somehow talk to or interface with the alien a bit before things get hostile. Its cool if you sit and listen to where he was he has a little device plugged into the ham radio sending out his wierd alien language distress call.
They made him sort of sound like the aliens from MARS ATTACKS!.
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: Shroomslip]
#22588342 - 11/28/15 09:15 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Shroomslip said: I tend to do the same. I have a a pretty narrow band of skills I find useful or deem worthy of actually working on. It doesn't even just apply to Fallout or Bethesda games. It's pretty much any game that lets you customize your character. I tend to favor characters that can gain access to things others could not (like lock picking), ranged weapons over melee, unless it's like Skyrim and the ranged is a bow, large carrying capacity and the ability to customize my weapons (or make weapons). Everything else generally takes a backseat to those aspects.
I do plan to start right over after I finish all the quests/missions and stuff. I still haven't quite decided on my build, but it is going to be highly specialized.. Right now I am leaning heavily towards silent assassin/thief. But I also have a tank type character in the back of my mind as well. One that realies heavily on heavy weapons and maybe even spends most of it's time in power armor (it'll be my second play through so I probably won't care too much about console commanding power cores as needed). Personality wise, either almost exclusively good natured or jaded and self-centered. Most likely will have to be the latter, the next time I'm siding with the institute.
I find that I focus each character in on a relatively narrow band of skills, but I like experiencing things from square one with those specialties. One may be very diplomatic but self-serving, another highly intelligent but anti-social, a third good-hearted but a little slow, and easily manipulated into evil acts, with the fourth being noble but very guarded and withdrawn.
It just really interests me to go out and experience the world in different ways. It changes how I encounter almost every portion of the game.
My bigger problem is having limited hairstyles I like; need a good hair mod to add more long-hair options. 



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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: Shroomslip]
#22588367 - 11/28/15 09:21 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Shroomslip said: I haven't really used it much. I never cared much for it past Fallout games either. I have like 4 or 5 suits that I've found while traveling the world sitting in my garage at the truck stop. I find one while doing a mission, I get in it, finish the mission then take it home and park it and never touch it again.
I love the power armor in this game but tend to do this same thing. I have like 6 or 7 suits sitting in the castle, all modded up to E level and various shit all over them, but, i never seem to remember to USE them. I have like 70 cores or so too. hahah.
I keep meaning to use it more but I tend to take a super extra ultra long time when I clear an area or room so what should be short missions or buildings for some people turn into epic long time wasters (and core wasters) for me. lulz.
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: Uzziel]
#22588401 - 11/28/15 09:28 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Uzziel said: Nah I don't think it's hard. I don't need VATS or anything much. Tactics and sneaking around can make up for lack of dmg resistance / AP except for those fucked situations where the game forces you to fight something right in front of you lol
Just sucks right now because no access to a silencer or anything so when shots fired, everyone knows
I'm not worried about not being able to progress... just really useful early on perks
Is scrounger and the like worth it?
I definitely am trying to learn how the settlements work. I can't fucking find concrete though....
scrounger is definitely worth it. I have 3 levels in it I believe (Im at work so not sure, its either 2 or 3) and I have shit tons of some types of ammo, others are still rare but definitely a lot less rare with it. I literally have like 5000 rounds of 5mm minigun ammo because I've never used it past the very first encounter with the dethclaw and pwoer armor. I find that shit evvveerryywhheree.. If I didn't have the scrounger perk then I would have a lot harder time using my plasma rifle as my main weapon as I currently still seem to have a hard time finding ammo for it and thats with a few perk levels.
IMO I think its a very important if not one of the top perks to pick, especially if you plan on primarily using a weapon that is at the upper end of what spawns for your level. Like you might find your first laser rifle or pistol at uber low level if its a placed (non random) weapon or storyline gives it, but if you are not at the level that enemies would spawn using them, you might find you never ever find ammo for it until you level up a few more times. Scrounger will make it so the few times you do, you will find more of it and more often making it that laser rifle more viable to use.
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: Uzziel]
#22588431 - 11/28/15 09:35 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Uzziel said: I was going to use it for the water pumps. Not worth it? Beats me.
That looked good, I was definitely going to use that perk to breakdown excess guns and shit for rare parts.
anyone know where to get lots of fertilizer to make jet?
Sometimes you will get a Brahmin with your settlement, or one will show up with an attracted settler. Put down a feed trough (its in the misc section under resources I think) and the brahmin will mostly stay by it. They produce fertilizer for you.
Water pumps or key components for most settlements. There should be cinder blocks and what not at your settlement you can scrap. The rule for settlements geenrally is, scrap EVERYTHING you can across the entire thing when you get there. Usually each settlement has enough shit to scrap for you to get it started and then some. Some, like sanctuary have a shit ton of stuff and others might be a lot more barebones, but all should give you enough to get at least the core stuff going like another water pump or 2, some foundations, walls roof, door, beds, beacon to get more settlers to come, etc.
Here is a subreddit I read while I'm bored at work that is dedicated to fallout settlements. TON of information there, I highly suggest anyone getting into the settlement system start reading stuff there because so much is NOT explained or obvious in game.
https://www.reddit.com/r/falloutsettlements
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: Shroomism]
#22588451 - 11/28/15 09:39 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Shroomism said: Yeah no level cap. Lockpick/Hacking are mandatory IMO then Scrounger is pretty useful.. after that it's all about personal playstyle I think.
I did lockpicking and only put one point in hacking. Almost every scenario Ive come across seems the lockpicking is more important and a lot of terminals are to open safes you can just pick anyway.
That one point does matter though. Tons of novice and advanced stuff.
Oh, the companion Nick Valentine can also do terminals pretty well, so if you select him then point at the terminal he will try to hack it. He *CAN* fail though, but I believe he can even open master level terminals.
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: Shroomslip]
#22588490 - 11/28/15 09:51 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Shroomslip said: Good news, there's facial surgeons.
until they commit suicide.
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: Shroomslip]
#22588565 - 11/28/15 10:09 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Shroomslip said: Anyone know why shipments of crafting materials are so expensive? I mean it's not even just "expensive" it's absurd. Is it really only 25 units of that material or does that shipment somehow break down to a lot more than 25? 1-2k for 25 units is ridiculous. If that was literally the only way you could buy materials from a shop, it would make more sense, but the same people charging you 40-80 per unit, often sell the junk that gives that item for less, and most give you more than one unit when they do get broken down.
Feel like there's something I'm missing that really drops those prices to more reasonable prices, minus the general stats/perks that lower vendor prices entirely.
I think the prices are so high because they are trying to push you out into the world to gather junk vs just buying shipments from vendors. I very rarely buy a vendor shipment and usually only on something I need greatly that I'm not finding stuff of, or is a lot more rare like say fiber optics or ballistic fiber. Also the vendor prices vary a ton, and doing quests for a person first like in diamond city, usually seems to get their prices down a little, bt only for that vendor.
IMO every little side quest or misc mission I run that leads me to a new place like an apartment building or office, I loot EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF JUNK I can get my grubby trash picking hands on. I usually end up just abrely going over my max weight for both myself and companion and have to dump a few pipe pistols or junk that is highh weight with low reward like bucket that give steel or broom with wood.
If you constantly horde every bit of junk you come across by the time you do settlement stuff you should have shit tons of the core stuff like wood and steel, and the more rare stuff you should sitll have a lot of but will run out prety quick.
The scrapper perk also can really help so if you bring home all the weapons and armor enemies drop you can scrap it for more stuff. Since weapons and armor mostly share the same stuff as general settlement building it helps with both aspects. Aluminum and copper are my current problem child.
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