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She can make her own video games if she wants. Nothing is stopping her. But she doesn't want to do that.. She's the one wanting to censor OTHER people's work for perceived slights she made up on complete bullshit. She just wants to bitch about OTHER people's hard work, where she produces absolutely nothing of value. You don't see feminists blowing up gaming threads because this is the goddamn shroomery. I don't think you know what the fuck you are talking about honestly. Don't tell me to fuck off. I work in the game industry and this is something we have to deal with, it's a real issue. But I always see you defending feminists in every thread in which it's brought up so not really surprised. White knight much? And it's Anita Sarkeesian, not Saskerian. She's not just a journalist, she's a self proclaimed feminist, pop culture critic and now she thinks she's a fucking expert on video games and she holds a surprising amount of clout. She's obviously made a big enough impression that E3 people made fucking flyers trashing her.
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: Shroomism]
#21834473 - 06/20/15 10:47 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Can you show me a link where she advocates for censorship? I honestly think she maintains specifically that she is not for censorship. It seems you just don't like what she has to say, which I don't really care either, so I don't go blowing her name up on the internet.
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Are you kidding me? She thrives on censorship. She deletes any comments that criticize HER wherever she can delete them. But she can criticize everyone else right? That's why her comments are disabled on almost ALL her videos. She censors everything unless it supports her agenda. She wants to censor sex, violence, women being depicted as anything other than strong female protaganists in video games. Etc etc etc. She may not come straight out and say she wants censorship.. but that's exactly what she pushes.
http://kotaku.com/how-anita-sarkeesian-wants-video-games-to-change-1688231729 http://www.portalcelebrinando.com/2014/10/anita-sarkeesian-once-again-uses.html
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: Shroomism]
#21834555 - 06/20/15 11:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Deleting youtube comments is her right by those standards you engage in censorship. Haven't you deleted threads before?
Where does she advocate for censorship of games? I only need one link, and a direct quote from her preferably. She is allowed to have unpopular opinions of games, and the people fueling her popularity right now are not only feminists.
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Shroomism
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Um, I move illegal threads to the dump. I don't delete threads because people have a differing opinion from me  It's her right to delete youtube comments She deletes any dissenting opinion wherever she can and always plays the victim. She gets a lot of dissenting opinions, but she chalks it all up to 'crazy people harassing her" and NEVER addresses anything they bring up.. she just keeps up with her narrative and censors or blocks anyone who disagrees with her wherever that is possible.
I gave you two videos and two links. You can read and watch those.
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: Shroomism]
#21834608 - 06/20/15 11:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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That's funny. Obviously I can't prove it, but I remember you posted a thread where you had supposedly seen a UFO and captured an anomaly on camera, then when I posted a picture showing that from close up the cord to my phone charger looked nearly identical the thread disappeared.
I think I still have the pictures on my old computer, but that is all beside the point anyway. I am asking where she advocates for censorship in games, and if you don't have that information why do you believe that she does? I get it, all these youtube videos, but none of them actually reference anything she says, unless it is to mock her for being an idiot when it comes to games, which she is entitled to be.
The games industry sold out to popular culture a long time ago, but that doesn't mean censorship. That is just the result of capitalism and trying to make the most money.
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Shroomism
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That's funny. Now you're accusing me of censorship? I remember that thread. I didn't delete it. I don't know what happened. And even if I did.. isn't that my right as it was my thread? As you so astutely pointed out. But I didn't touch it. I don't fucking censor people who disagree with me or have completely opposite opinions. That's quite against my principles.. I'd rather engage. It wasn't a cell phone charger btw.
She has argued for censorship and she does, she does it in two of those videos I posted. I'm not here to argue about it or convince you of anything. I'm just fucking sick of it.
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: Shroomism]
#21834710 - 06/20/15 11:48 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Shroomism said: ... How did that bitch get an invite to E3 She's not an industry professional. She's not even a goddamn gamer.
Well...

But her press badge says media (more on that in a moment), so it seems like the actual text of the comic author may be more relevant:
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When I read that E3 was allowing “fans” to attend the show, and not merely those ostensibly associated with the journalistic edifice, I was like… well, yeah. I’ve been doing that with PAX for a decade or so and it’s worked out pretty good. But fans means something very specific in this context: it means people invited by the exhibitors directly. Which gave me a second opportunity to say “well, yeah” in an incredibly short span of time.
Two things are sort of happening at once, and it’s fascinating. I have described the process of enthusiast media organizations as being one where we gradually get down to “media organizations” consisting of a single person. The current media environment in one in which trust is the only currency. Well, that, I guess, and currency. But the atomization of media happened along with the fact that the traditional media food source - advertising - was dying also. It isn’t just hard out here for pimps. It’s difficult even for those who filled out “Never” or “Rarely” on the Pimp Assessment Battery (PimAB). The ground is froze; you can’t get a shovel in.
For years, I would gin together the most legitimate sounding shit I wrote in the last year, put a byline on it, and send it in to E3. Then I would wait to see if passes arrived, which they typically did. There has always been a way for the enterprising quasi-journalist to get into this show; I thought operating a scam of this kind was sort of the price of admission. But you can’t really read this any other way: this is what it sounds like when doves cry, if the crying of doves represented a metaphorical changing of the guard. There has always been a fear of this petulant media, commensurate with their perceived power, and I have to say that the ramifications of this are savory and eat like a meal.
(bolded italicized is my emphasis not author's) http://penny-arcade.com/news/post/2015/06/01/the-new-kids
Could totally see her being given a press pass due to the face she has become in the media.
As for the passes, apparently she was misrepresenting the convention badges on twitter as well:


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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: Shroomism]
#21834732 - 06/20/15 11:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Dude that video is two hours long. I am asking for one quote from her that even hints that video games should be censored.
She has done very well for herself in all this. I don't really think that video game criticism is am important avenue for feminist activism, but I gotta say she knows how to turn bad press into precious dollars, which is admirable on some level to me, and I don't think she's an idiot.
When I watch her videos I am bored, not shocked and outraged.
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Shroomism
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You want an easy to digest quote or clip? Ok
"Advertising targeting young people needs to stop altogether, no exceptions." One single example.
I never said she was an idiot. I said she was a lot of things... scammer, hypocrite, toxic, money-grabber, bold faced liar, etc. etc.. but an idiot she is certainly not. She knows exactly what she is doing.
She didn't turn bad press into dollars.. she rode the feminist SJW train to the top, made a kickstarter campaign and went viral..and started making her tropes vs women in video games videos... and gamergate etc... it really wasn't until after all that and her pissing in everyone's cornflakes that she started getting most of the flack. She didn't get rich or famous from bad press, nor has she really gotten much bad press at all from the media. On the contrary - most of the mainstream press praises her. On message boards (not run by her), youtube channels that aren't hers, other podcasts, and other alternative places are where most of the rage against her is. But certainly not in the mainstream media. It's not admirable that she scammed a bunch of people out of a ton of money to produce 6 completely shit videos just featuring her opinion as if they are stone cold facts.
She attacks video games, because that's all feminists have anymore in first world countries.... to attack benign, every day things or find problems where they don't even exist. It's not enough that the courts, schools, government, and medical industries all favor females more, but she wants video games too! Feminism stopped being relevant in developed nations about 30 years ago. Females have all the rights men have now and then some.. better in many cases. She's not pushing for equality.. she pushes for superiority. But that's most feminists. We need human rights, not more 'female power'. But that's a rant for a different thread.
Anyway, fuck Anita Sarkeesian. I'm sick of thinking about her, she makes me sick.
Fallout 4 is going to be the shit.
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: Shroomism]
#21834963 - 06/21/15 12:43 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Shroomism said: I'm sick of thinking about her, she makes me sick.
Fallout 4 is going to be the shit.
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: Shroomism]
#21834978 - 06/21/15 12:46 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Obviously I disagree on alot of those points, but I can agree with not talking about her anymore.
Holy fuck can I borrow $120
http://kotaku.com/fallout-4-pip-boy-editions-are-driving-people-nuts-1712639368
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: Adolin]
#21834983 - 06/21/15 12:47 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Crafting system is going to be so fucking sick. Being able to use ANY item in the game to break down into core components that can be used for crafting pretty much anything.. fucking genius idea.
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: Adolin]
#21835026 - 06/21/15 12:54 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Too bad feminists won't give me thousands of dollars to do rigorous "research" of playing videogames and picking out scenes for youtube videos. 
To segue Feminism back into Fallout -- will anyone be running around in Boston as the wife of the family kicking ass and taking names in the bad ass fashion that Bethesda lets female characters partake in?
Will you be in heels and running body mods as the nexus will inevitably be flooded with?
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: Tantrika]
#21835027 - 06/21/15 12:55 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I almost always choose a female character if its available
i played a female for like 3 years in wow. everyone knew i was a guy though. i eventually got a virtual sexchange just cause i got bored with my character.
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: Adolin]
#21835043 - 06/21/15 01:00 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Same. Am looking forward to designing a new character with the sculpting system.
Am actually interested in seeing what kind of body diversity they offer in the sculpting -- there was the option showing up on the menu during their preview but they never touched on that feature.
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: Tantrika]
#21835287 - 06/21/15 02:34 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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If you guys wanna know what I think about this Anita woman, and bear in mind that I only glimpsed some of her stuff because it is so damn boring, it is this: She's a damn good snakesoil salesman. Or salesWOman  Causing shitstorms where none exist all the while raking in the monneys.
Me, I don't care about her. Whatever. Sexism in videogames is such a non-issue that I betcha most feminists don't even considder it. There are vagina's being mutilated in Muslim countries, and Christians who want to take your birthcontroll and "plan-B" away. Plus all the women getting abused, raped, hurt and sold. These are real issues.
These gamer-feminists... I bet you that they're all from a moderatly wealthy upbringing in very sheltered neighbourhoods. They rile against this because it is the only thing they know, but once they leave the nest and have to make it in the real world, they will probably look back at their "activism" with a little bit shame.
Anyways as for Fallout: My friend ordered the pip-boy edition. Not that it came as a surprise, the man loves video games and special editions. He's got a pretty cool collection! Me, I'm too much of a poor boy for that kind of thing, but I'll happily buy the game at release date! At least 3 of my friends are confirmed for the Fall Out 4 launch party. It will be a party in my house, with laptops, computers, weed, coffee and fatty foods, and will mark the beginning of our long isolation from the outside world.
One of the best things about Fallout (& the Elder Scrolls games) is all the stories you and your mates have, because everybody's experience was different. I can't wait!
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: Tantrika]
#21835292 - 06/21/15 02:37 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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How does this thread keep coming back to feminism?
Also non-fallout related update since I talked about it earlier in the thread.
I'm not thoroughly addicted Witcher 3 I guess I just needed some time to get a little further into it.
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: Turtletotem]
#21835293 - 06/21/15 02:39 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah the more I think about the pip-boy merch the less I want it, I would never actually use it and on close inspection it looks like a cheap POS. I will wait for the real one to get released
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moonrockmushy said: Yeah the more I think about the pip-boy merch the less I want it, I would never actually use it and on close inspection it looks like a cheap POS. I will wait for the real one to get released 
At first I didn't understand you, I thought: "But the one they release is real, no?" But you meant an actual, real pip-boy, didn't you?  I'll wait for that one too.
As for feminism, some asshole poisoned this thread at the beginning, and we're all dealing with the fall out from that. Because the internet fucking sucks
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