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Turtletotem
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No, he now has to explain exactly what is going on. Either he teaches us that we where wrong, or, and this is more likeley, him organizing his thoughts on the issue will cause him to realize he's been fooled by snake's oil salesmen.
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: Turtletotem]
#21822545 - 06/18/15 07:10 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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persecution complex? all you've done is flame me every post. look at my posts, its all simple statements, never directed at anybody UNTIL someone throws names and insults. I make my opinion then someone debates it, if its debated then im going to back my opinion up till its either dropped, or someone gives a VALID opinion as to why its wrong in a way that isn't shitty.
I already answered how it applies to dogmeat like 10 times dude. Feminism doesn't stop when you get on a computer dude, you know this, nothing stops at the computer. So.........your saying feminism can't affect video games? Culture can't affect video games? They affect twitter and facebook, they affect everything in our lives, and our lives are more and more on the computer.
So.........surely you must realize that feminists work at gaming companys too right? and that feminists also send messages to these companys in various ways expressing concerns, as do share holders and numerous other ways.
SO.........u do realize that certain things don't end up in a game because it would "look bad" right.....just answer that one for me at least, and once you do, you've proved me right, unless you actually say no they don't inwhich case again your just a troll.
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: makaveli8x8]
#21822552 - 06/18/15 07:13 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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come on buddy its a simple question, yes or no, do companys not put stuff in games because it would make them look bad
yep thats what i thought, u knew better than to answer such a simple question because it proves me right, instead you'll spend 20 minutes to formulate some bullshit troll response flaming me further to deflect from it
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: makaveli8x8]
#21822562 - 06/18/15 07:19 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Dude you made some crack smoking comment to us, and have been flaming for the majority of this "debate"
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I already answered how it applies to dogmeat like 10 times dude.
Really becouse I still don't see how it has anything to do with the dog either...
Holy Femspiracy batman 
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SO.........u do realize that certain things don't end up in a game because it would "look bad" right.....
Umm... Isn't that common knowledge? People have already pointed out it was probably a moral decision. Of course a game is going to want a positive image.
Is that news to you? Seriously? I highly doubt they did it at the urging of some "extreme feminists" though which is what you seem to believe...
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yep thats right i did make that comment AFTER someone made comments to me, did u read my post up there, i JUST WROTE ABOUT THAT
and oh look you answered my question, and it proves me right. They won't do it because they will look bad, correct. They want a positive image so they can sell the game to a more diverse group of people....AKA FEMINISTS
because it sure as shit isn't male gamers who are going to cry about sex in a game, or putting bombs on dogs.
u admitted yes to my answer dude, u done fucked up, you lost.
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: makaveli8x8]
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oh look, you just defeated your own argument.
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They want a positive image so they can sell the game to a more diverse group of people....AKA FEMINISTS
because it sure as shit isn't male gamers who are going to cry about sex in a game, or putting bombs on dogs.
If this was the case I think they would have gone a bit beyond not being able to kill a dog/ children. Pretty sure feminism is about, well fems.
You are so stubborn to prove your point you are making all sorts of opinionated connections and passing them on as fact.
I still fail to see how any of this proves or even has anything to do with feminism.
You do however seem pretty sexist and or insecure as others have pointed out.
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: makaveli8x8]
#21822646 - 06/18/15 07:59 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ok den. 
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makaveli8x8 said: persecution complex? all you've done is flame me every post. look at my posts, its all simple statements, never directed at anybody UNTIL someone throws names and insults. I make my opinion then someone debates it, if its debated then im going to back my opinion up till its either dropped, or someone gives a VALID opinion as to why its wrong in a way that isn't shitty.
I ment persecution complex as in how you perceive feminism, I wasn't talking about us giving you a hard time for making ridiculous claims. Maybe I could have been friendlier and more polite then I was, and not a vicious cunt, but I am, so that is how it comes out. (SHOUT OUT TO HICKS!)
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I already answered how it applies to dogmeat like 10 times dude. Feminism doesn't stop when you get on a computer dude, you know this, nothing stops at the computer. So.........your saying feminism can't affect video games? Culture can't affect video games? They affect twitter and facebook, they affect everything in our lives, and our lives are more and more on the computer.
No you didn't, or maybe you did but it just came across as gibberish.
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So.........surely you must realize that feminists work at gaming companys too right? and that feminists also send messages to these companys in various ways expressing concerns, as do share holders and numerous other ways.[/quote[ #Itsaconspiracy!
You sound like a schizophrenic man trying to explain (vainly) that the illuminati is behind everything or some shit. When people repeatedly tell you they don't understand what you are saying, and it is very important for you to listen to this... it might mean that they seriously don't understand what the fuck you're talking about! Come on man, try to explain it in a way that doesn't sound like you ate all the mushrooms.
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SO.........u do realize that certain things don't end up in a game because it would "look bad" right.....just answer that one for me at least, and once you do, you've proved me right, unless you actually say no they don't inwhich case again your just a troll.
A business wants to cater to as broad an audience as it possibly can? What is the world coming to these days?
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no i didn't......show me how i did. what parts of that quote contradict my statement.
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: makaveli8x8]
#21822668 - 06/18/15 08:08 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Come on man, try to explain it in a way that doesn't sound like you ate all the mushrooms.
If people truely didn't get it, they would word there questions in much better ways, an honest question gets an honest answer, everything would have been so much clearer if i had clearer questions and specifics as to my answers. It was just troll comments with a question to make it look less trollish.
you've admitted now that companys change there game to appeal to others, therefor you have admitted they cater to feminism based under that same reasoning, as they are part of it. you can't backpeddle from that, its case closed shut and done i win.
Henceforth i am delcared the winner of this debate, and winner of this thread, and as the winner my prize is that you all have to play fallout 4 naked while running mods that enable kids and dogs to be targeted by vats
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: makaveli8x8]
#21822682 - 06/18/15 08:14 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Come on man, try to explain it in a way that doesn't sound like you ate all the mushrooms.
If people truely didn't get it, they would word there questions in much better ways, an honest question gets an honest answer. It was just troll comments with a question to make it look less trollish.
you've admitted now that companys change there game to appeal to others, therefor you have admitted they cater to feminism based under that same reasoning, as they are part of it.
Henceforth i am delcared the winner of this debate, and winner of this thread, and as the winner my prize is that you all have to play fallout 4 naked while running mods that enable kids and dogs to be targeted by vats

You really don't understand why I find it so hard to understand your reasoning, do you?
"you've admitted now that companys change there game to appeal to others" Uhuh...
"therefor you have admitted they cater to feminism based under that same reasoning, as they are part of it." Wtf dude
I DO NOT GET THE CONNECTION! THERE IS NO CONNECTION! Bethesda wants to sell their videogame, therefore -> feminist conspiracy makes no sense at all! Are there many feminist activists fighting for less violence against dogs and children in videogames or something? Jesus.
I bet you also complained endlessly about the new Mad Max film.
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: Turtletotem]
#21822686 - 06/18/15 08:16 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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dude you've already lost, get over it.
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: makaveli8x8]
#21822695 - 06/18/15 08:20 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Because according to your logic feminists would have done away with much more of the game than these two little features.
You are making feminists out in a way that does not fit the evidence.
You also are clumping everyone in with feminists.
Are they the only people who care about an immortal dog, or killing little kids? No.
Many people in this thread have expressed thanks towards exactly what bethesda was going for with invincible companions.
Also, once again you sound pretty biased and or sexist:
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because it sure as shit isn't male gamers who are going to cry about sex in a game
So female gamers don't appreciate sex in video games?
How many female gamers do you know? How many feminists? My money is on 0.
So... If by winning you mean you have not managed to convince anyone in this thread of your point then yeah, sure. That is totally how debates work 
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: makaveli8x8]
#21822703 - 06/18/15 08:25 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: Tantrika]
#21823660 - 06/18/15 01:36 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bethesda apparently learned a valuable lesson from the paid Skyrim mods fiasco, and have no current plans to make Fallout 4 mods a paid system.
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When Bethesda and Valve announced paid mods for The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim, the reaction was negative, and it was quickly retracted. Some have suspected the idea would come back with Fallout 4, but as of right now, that doesn’t appear to be the case.
German publication Spiegel Online, the digital version of Der Spiegel, asked game director Todd Howard about paid mods towards the end of their interview.
The version I’m pasting below comes through a Google translation, so excuse the awkward phrasing, but I had a German speaker look at the text. It checked out.
SPIEGEL ONLINE: In the Microsoft press conference was announced that created by PC Fan extensions to run on the Xbox One. If you have to pay for some mods? In “Skyrim” Bethesda has experimented with a Mod-payment option , which was withdrawn after fan protests.
Howard: How long was the online payment system? 24 Hours? I can only speak for the present time, but currently there are no plans for a payment system.
Could it happen in the future? Sure. Right now, though, it seems they’re playing it safe.
http://kotaku.com/fallout-4-devs-have-no-plans-for-paid-mods-1712305902
Would not object if they can find a decent way to provide income to mod makers for their endeavours, but it is good to see that they are, at the very least, working on a better implementation -- the general idea with Skyrim was good, even if the execution was received poorly and modders themselves received comparatively little.
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: Tantrika]
#21823811 - 06/18/15 02:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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while i like the idea of the hardcore modders getting something for their contributions, i dont like the idea of paid system at all really. im just paranoid they could start checking your files and if they see a 'pirated' or 'unapproved' mod they wont let you play
all in all im glad
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: makaveli8x8] 1
#21824029 - 06/18/15 03:01 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Your argument makes about as much sense to me as the card game Caravan
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: Tantrika]
#21824835 - 06/18/15 06:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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We will apparently be seeing improvements over Fallout 3's shooting system.
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Bethesda has discussed its approach to revamping the first-person shooting gameplay of Fallout 3 for its upcoming sequel.
Speaking in an interview with GameSpot, Bethesda creative director Todd Howard admitted that the shooting in Fallout 3 was "mehhn."
He went on to say that the studio had to come to terms with the fact that Fallout 4 was, above all else, a role-playing game, but also that shooting needed to be better.
"We started out with Fallout 4 knowing that, look, we can't apologise for being a role-playing game," he said. "We have to build a first-person shooter, and it needs to be a really, really good one.
"We spent a lot of time on that," Howard added.
In Fallout 4, players will also be able to use VATS, the game's strategic combat mechanic where action slows to a crawl, allowing players to target specific body parts. And they'll have a slight edge when doing so.
"We want players to have the edge if they use the VATS system," he said. "If you're building your character for VATS, it's really powerful."
Check back for the full Fallout 4 interview with Howard later today.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/bethesda-built-really-good-fps-for-fallout-4/1100-6428329/
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: Tantrika]
#21824989 - 06/18/15 06:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I feel like vats already does give a huge advantage, except for sniping maybe. Once you get a few perks on there it makes combat easy, especially against melee opponents who are slower than you. I'm all for improving it tho.
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moonrockmushy said: Your argument makes about as much sense to me as the card game Caravan
ba - zinga

oh oh oh!
Does a single one of the many fallout fans in this thread understand the card game caravan?
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