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personally i think it dumbs the game down for children ect, if u can play the game with no companion, it makes logical sense that you could kill your companion with no ill effect, so how does a ceo or whatever of a multimillion dollar company make such a stupid statement like "you'll reload if your dog dies" when he clearly says right after you can play with NO COMPANION........this is why these beth games lack the "full" fallout experience.
Its a fucking wasteland, there is no government, there are no rules........EXCEPT the ones beth and this retard wrote
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: makaveli8x8]
#21817104 - 06/16/15 10:56 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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makaveli8x8 said: personally i think it dumbs the game down for children ect, if u can play the game with no companion, it makes logical sense that you could kill your companion with no ill effect, so how does a ceo or whatever of a multimillion dollar company make such a stupid statement like "you'll reload if your dog dies" when he clearly says right after you can play with NO COMPANION........this is why these beth games lack the "full" fallout experience.
Its a fucking wasteland, there is no government, there are no rules........EXCEPT the ones beth and this retard wrote
yeah, but you forget the fact that killing dogmeat is one of the most enjoyable parts of Fallout 3.
i played on a PC, so i had the luxury of using the console(i dont mean gaming console, i mean the console/terminal in the PC version that lets you alter the game) commands 'resurrect' and 'placeatpc' to revive him. but the gaming console players(xbox/ps) didnt have that option
point being: exploding dogs is fun, losing your best friend isnt. why nto have the best of both worlds?
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: Adolin] 1
#21817147 - 06/16/15 11:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I fail to see how making it so your companion dog can't die is going to ruin the "full" fallout experience 
Plenty of games have had things like that.
Oblivion? Couldn't kill main quest characters... Why? Because it would mess up the game and people would have to re load.
Same thing basically...
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: makaveli8x8]
#21817183 - 06/16/15 11:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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makaveli8x8 said: personally i think it dumbs the game down for children ect, if u can play the game with no companion, it makes logical sense that you could kill your companion with no ill effect, so how does a ceo or whatever of a multimillion dollar company make such a stupid statement like "you'll reload if your dog dies" when he clearly says right after you can play with NO COMPANION........this is why these beth games lack the "full" fallout experience.
Its a fucking wasteland, there is no government, there are no rules........EXCEPT the ones beth and this retard wrote
He means if you accidentally kill your companion you'll reload to get him back. Which is a pain in the ass because you might not have saved recently.
IMO that's what he was getting at anyways. It wasn't a stupid comment, it's observation. No one who accidentally kills an NPC they don't want dead is just like "oops, oh well nothing I can do now". The reload the last save.
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: Shroomslip] 1
#21817205 - 06/16/15 11:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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they need to just let XBOX/PS gamers have access to the console commands so they can cheat along with the PC players
they already said they're giving mods to the xbox/ps gamers, why not give them a console too?
its nice to be able to correct your wrongdoings, especially in a game like Fallout, where you might dedicate two hundred hours to one save file
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: Adolin]
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Gresh said: they need to just let XBOX/PS gamers have access to the console commands so they can cheat along with the PC players
they already said they're giving mods to the xbox/ps gamers, why not give them a console too?
its nice to be able to correct your wrongdoings, especially in a game like Fallout, where you might dedicate two hundred hours to one save file
rightt?? that would be a significant improvement
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I fail to see how making it so your companion dog can't die is going to ruin the "full" fallout experience 
they started by taking out groin shots, bombs on animals, ect. Now you can't shoot them either, just like u can't attack kids in skyrim, ect.
it has nothing to do with ruining the game and having to reload, there's ways around it, millions of ways to fix the problem, they choose to go nanny state and just not let you kill them. as a gamer you should be insulted, as a developer beth should be ashamed for doing it to a fallout game. its pathetic.
For 1 reason, 1 reason alone, because little timmy sitting on his couch goes and shoots his dog, or slashes a kid in skyrim, and then mommy or his sister starts crying and gets mad and writes letters to beth complaining, thats it, thats the only reason.
fallout, was remembered because it was a good game sure, but what made it stick out, was the gore, the sick dark humor, that is the 'full' experience, and they've been taking it out bit by bit.
does that mean that game won't be good? no. But it sure won't be the full experience, and remember those are things they 'took' out, think long and hard about what they 'should' be putting into the game but arn't for these same reasons. The game should be filled head to toe with dark humor, the gore should be intense and dark going way beyond stupid exploding shit. in that trailer i didn't see shit for dark humor, at all. The game is supposed to be dark, all i seen was a 'techie' start, then pretty landscapes with dead tree's, then some killing, that might as well be any other RPG/FPS. Besides the pipeboy shit ect, it litterally could have any name on it and you wouldn't know
but if you meantion a rpg game that had groin shots, or dark humor, fallout 1 and 2 will always pop into your mind, wtf does fallout 3 have that sticks out? nothing except being a good game, it doesn't stick out period. if it wasn't for the fallout name, it would have been remembered mearly as that, and set aside next to all the other 'good' games. fallout 1 and 2 arn't good games, there a part of history, always remembered.
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it has nothing to do with ruining the game and having to reload, there's ways around it, millions of ways to fix the problem, they choose to go nanny state and just not let you kill them.
For 1 reason, 1 reason alone, because little timmy sitting on his couch goes and shoots his dog, or slashes a kid in skyrim, and then mommy or his sister starts crying and gets mad and writes letters to beth complaining, thats it, thats the only reason.
fallout, was remembered because it was a good game sure, but what made it stick out, was the gore, the sick dark humor, that is the 'full' experience, and they've been taking it out bit by bit.
The game should, should be, the game is supposed to be.
wtf does fallout 3 have that sticks out? nothing except being a good game, it doesn't stick out period.
There is so much opinion in that post masquerading as fact it is hard to read...
Believe it or not people play games for more than one reason, and great games are not great for any one reason alone.
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Oblivion? Couldn't kill main quest characters... Why? Because it would mess up the game and people would have to re load.
Same thing basically...
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I can totally see why making dogmeat immortal is a bad choice for many players, but I'm happy with it. Other companions die = dead is dead, what can I do? Dogmeat dying = Reload from two hours ago just to avoid that scenario
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: Turtletotem]
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like i said there's millions of ways they could have fixed that for people who don't like it, give u a nanobot gun that can revive npc types. i mean it is the "future" with high tech afterall. just 1 of many ways to fix the problem without bending over for the nanny state.
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Oh, look. Makaveli is back to shitting up this thread with his half baked moron opinions no one gives a shit about.
Cool.
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: makaveli8x8] 2
#21817968 - 06/17/15 07:10 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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makaveli8x8 said: like i said there's millions of ways they could have fixed that for people who don't like it, give u a nanobot gun that can revive npc types. i mean it is the "future" with high tech afterall. just 1 of many ways to fix the problem without bending over for the nanny state.
Nanny state? WTF dude 
Look, they had a problem, they solved it. It may not be the most elegant solution, but it's something.
But if you are the shitpicky type, then don't buy the game because such a minor detail will RUIN everything for you.
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Re: Fallout 4: Please Stand By [Re: propensity]
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