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sun child Registered: 02/12/15 Posts: 1,807 |
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Would be happy to discuss or share secrets of chess for free.
#1 and only rule: be respectful and kind. Only entry fee; then it's all free. ![]() Would be discussing it all on this thread. -------------------- Innocent, Oldfield & Hegerland Julia Delaney, Bothy Band Rasta Girl, Sister Carol Genesis, Jorma K I Wish You Peace, Lawrence Laughing Do Your Thing, Moondog Time Traveler's Guide
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Random Observer Registered: 03/03/11 Posts: 7,639 Loc: Idaho |
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Do you have an account on chess.com?
I'd like to get better at Chess. It seems that there is a massive correlation between how patient I am and how good I am. If I stop and think critically about every little move I make, I'm all right. I've been playing a little bit here and there on chess.com and a phone app for awhile and getting a little better...I'm starting to remember certain "patterns" or strategies.
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sun child Registered: 02/12/15 Posts: 1,807 |
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nope, I play elsewhere, but I would be happy to have sort of an open discussion going.
that way, others can see it and follow along and learn if they like. when i was younger i was fortunate to meet a few grandmasters, one thing they shared was 'studying is the main way to improve' and one great secret is to memorize grandmaster games; this helps you absorb patterns and so forth. it's actually pretty great secret. alekhine is a good one to start with. -------------------- Innocent, Oldfield & Hegerland Julia Delaney, Bothy Band Rasta Girl, Sister Carol Genesis, Jorma K I Wish You Peace, Lawrence Laughing Do Your Thing, Moondog Time Traveler's Guide
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L'une Registered: 09/17/11 Posts: 11,309 Last seen: 2 days, 2 hours |
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Ever play 3D chess? There's some wonderful alternative images of it on google.
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Random Observer Registered: 03/03/11 Posts: 7,639 Loc: Idaho |
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I feel the best way to learn/teach is to play the game itself, and teach as you go along. But since you're the teacher, I guess it's up to you. I was just pointing out chess.com as a free resource we could use.
I don't really know that much to talk about without playing the game and just discussing things in general as we go.
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sun child Registered: 02/12/15 Posts: 1,807 |
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So one thing is that studying tactics is a good thing to focus on at the start. As Petrosian put it, 'In Chess, everything rests on tactics,' even though he was known for his deeply positional style.
People often know to focus on tactics until strength of 1800 or so, but even up to 2000 it can be good to simply work to master tactics.
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L'une Registered: 09/17/11 Posts: 11,309 Last seen: 2 days, 2 hours |
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Hmmm... The king in 3D chess has 12 options to move without mobilizing a pawn, and the common bishop/queen attack becomes a nightmare of contingency back-ups.
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sun child Registered: 02/12/15 Posts: 1,807 |
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Let's keep this about chess, please.
3D chess, like Backgammon, Scrabble, Bughouse, or Go, is a fine game in all probability, but this is for chess. Thank you and have a good day.
-------------------- Innocent, Oldfield & Hegerland Julia Delaney, Bothy Band Rasta Girl, Sister Carol Genesis, Jorma K I Wish You Peace, Lawrence Laughing Do Your Thing, Moondog Time Traveler's Guide
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sun child Registered: 02/12/15 Posts: 1,807 |
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So for tactics,
Chess: 3,333 +1 problems, combinations and games is probably the best tactics books; it has as its largest category mate in 2 problems, and then also 4, 5, 6, each smaller i believe; and 50 or 100 really good (50 I think) tactical games; the author's Lazlo Polgar, he was a master but his three daughters are all excellent players, and some of the very tactical games are taken from their careers, they're Judith, and Susan polgar, I forget the middle one - Judith is the higher rated, she was in the top 10 in the world for quite a while; Susan I got to meet once when I was 15, and accidentally called her Judit; I felt so completely silly; but it was really because I knew someone else named Judit. the best travel tactics book is probably or certainly Chess Nuts, which is an entirely problems book, in Russian but there are no words, and so it works for any language. .. it's a very light book, with very incredible problems; can keep you entertained a lifetime. The best beginner's tactic book is certainly Winning Chess: by Irvin Chernev and Fred Reinfeld (I prefer the former greatly as a writer; and it's said Logical Chess: Move by Move by him is an excellent book, although it's one I didn't read. There are lots of others; Encyclopaedia of Chess Endings is a really exceptional, very rare series of books; one guy named Funh, from Mayalsia, was a master who got that strength by age 14, by studying the ECE; and i would love to have it, i got to borrow it once briefly I think. .. anyway he didn't study anythign but the ECE really, and mastered the endgame, and that was enough to devastate most opponents. Besides tactics problems there's also studying grandmaster games, that's the main general overall process of learning at chess; after all what else could/would Carlsen do except a; invent new positions and b; look at games of his colleagues. So for these, Alekhine is classicly one of the greatest; Kasparov of course and Fischer, then after that there are dozens; Tal, I mean there are hundreds of awesome grandmasters. . . here's where the principle of selectivity comes in, and always applies; if you find the best sources of information, you'll learn the best. So many years after I studied many of these things ( and I again recommend Alekhine, particularly his "Best Games of Chess" books (vol. 1 and 2.), there's many others, ), and of course, about 12-15 years of good studying and what not; I came back to the world champions, and their games are full of simplicity and beauty; so I got into Smyslov, Petrosian, and others, and it was really wonderful for my chess. Here's a few games of Smyslov, some of which have annotations with Fritz 11. I recommend for printing off (one page if done both sides) and studying on some peaceful autumn day, with the wind blowing and maybe a coffee. Geller,Efim P - Smyslov,Vassily [D18] URS-training Garga (4), 1953 1 d4 d5 2 c4 c6 3 Nf3 Nf6 4 Nc3 dc4 5 a4 Bf5 6 e3 e6 7 Bc4 Be7 8 0-0 0-0 9 Qe2 c5 [9 ..Ne4 10 Bd3 Nc3 11 bc3 Bd3 12 Qd3 Nd7 13 e4] 10 Rd1 Ne4 11 d5 Nc3 [11 ..Qc8] 12 bc3 ed5 13 Bd5 Qc7 14 e4 Bg4 15 h3 Bh5 16 c4 [16 g3 Nc6 17 Bf4 Bf3 18 Qf3 Ne5 19 Qh5 Bf6] 16 ..Nc6 17 Bb2 Rfe8 18 Ra3 Rad8 19 g4 [19 Qd2 h6 20 Re3 Nb4 21 Be5 Qb6] 19 ..Bg6 20 Re3 Nb4 21 e5 [21 Bc3 Bd6 22 e5 Be7 23 h4 Qc8] 21 ..Bc2 22 e6 f6 23 Rd2 Ba4 24 g5 fg5 25 Be5 Qb6 26 Ng5 [26 Rc3 a5 27 Rb2 Qa6 28 Qe4 Bc6] 26 ..Nd5 27 cd5 Qb1 28 Kh2 Bg5 29 f4 [29 Qg4 Qg6 30 Qa4 Be3 31 fe3 Re6 32 Qa5 Re5 33 Qd8 Qe8] 29 ..Bh6 30 Rg3 Qf5 0-1 Smyslov,Vassily - Kotov,Alexander [A25] URS-training Garga (10), 1953 1 c4 e5 2 Nc3 Nc6 3 g3 g6 4 Bg2 Bg7 5 e3 f5 [5 ..Nf6 6 Nge2 0-0 7 0-0] 6 Nge2 e4 7 d3 ed3 8 Qd3 Nf6 9 b3 d6 10 0-0 0-0 11 Ba3 a5 12 Rad1 Nb4 13 Qd2 Qe7 14 Nf4 g5 [14 ..Qf7] 15 Ncd5 Nbd5 16 Nd5 Qf7 17 Nf6 Qf6 [17 ..Bf6 18 Bd5 Be6 19 Bb7 Ra7 20 Bd5 a4 21 b4] 18 c5 a4 19 cd6 Rd8 [19 ..cd6 20 Bd6 Re8] 20 Bd5 Be6 21 Bb2 Qf7 22 Be6 Qe6 23 Bg7 Kg7 24 Qc3 Kg6 25 dc7 Rdc8 26 b4 1-0 Smyslov,Vassily - Stahlberg,Gideon [C11] Candidats Tournament Zuerich (4), 1953 1 e4 e6 2 d4 d5 3 Nc3 Nf6 4 Bg5 de4 5 Ne4 Be7 6 Bf6 Bf6 7 Nf3 Nd7 8 Bc4 0-0 9 Qe2 Nb6 10 Bb3 Bd7 11 0-0 Qe7 12 Rfe1 Rad8 13 Rad1 Ba4 [13 ..Bc6] 14 Ba4 Na4 15 Qb5 Nb6 16 c4 c6 17 Qb3 Qc7 18 Nf6 gf6 19 Qe3 Kg7 [19 ..Nc4 20 Qh6 Qe7 21 Rd3 Kh8 22 Nh4 Rg8 23 Nf5 Rg6 24 Qg6 ef5 25 Qh7 Kh7 26 Re7] 20 Ne5 Qe7 [20 ..fe5 21 Qg5 Kh8 22 Qf6 Kg8 23 Rd3; 20 ..h6 21 Ng4 Rh8 22 Qf3 f5 23 Ne5 Qe7 24 Rd3] 21 Ng4 Rg8 [21 ..Nd7 22 d5 cd5 23 cd5 e5 24 Qh6 Kh8 25 Re3 f5 26 d6 Qe6 27 Qe6 fe6 28 Ne5; 21 ..Kh8 22 d5 cd5 23 Qh6 Nd7 24 Rd5 Qb4 25 Rd2] 22 Nh6 Qc7 23 Ng8 Rg8 24 b3 Kh8 25 Qh6 Rg6 26 Qh4 Nd7 27 Re3 Qa5 28 Rh3 Nf8 29 Rg3 Qa2 30 Rg6 Ng6 31 Qf6 Kg8 32 Qf3 Qc2 33 Qd3 1-0 Keres,Paul - Smyslov,Vassily [E14] Candidats Tournament Zuerich (24), 1953 1 c4 Nf6 2 Nc3 e6 3 Nf3 c5 4 e3 Be7 5 b3 0-0 6 Bb2 b6 7 d4 cd4 8 ed4 d5 9 Bd3 Nc6 10 0-0 Bb7 11 Rc1 Rc8 12 Re1 Nb4 13 Bf1 Ne4 14 a3 Nc3 15 Rc3 Nc6 16 Ne5 [16 Bd3 Bf6] 16 ..Ne5 17 Re5 [17 de5 dc4 18 Bc4 Bc5] 17 ..Bf6 18 Rh5 g6 19 Rch3 [19 Rg3] 19 ..dc4 20 Rh7 [20 Rh6] 20 ..c3 21 Qc1 Qd4 22 Qh6 Rfd8 23 Bc1 Bg7 24 Qg5 Qf6 25 Qg4 c2 26 Be2 Rd4 27 f4 Rd1 28 Bd1 Qd4 0-1 Lundin,Erik - Smyslov,Vassily [C49] Amsterdam olm Amsterdam, 1954 1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 Nc3 Nf6 4 Bb5 Bb4 5 0-0 0-0 6 d3 d6 7 Ne2 Bd7 8 c3 Bc5 9 Bg5 h6 10 Bh4 Kh8 11 Bc4 Qe7 12 a4 a6 13 b4 Ba7 14 Qd2 Rg8 15 Ng3 g5 16 Ng5 hg5 17 Bg5 Rg6 18 h4 Rag8 19 Nf5 Qf8 20 Nh6 R8g7 21 Nf5 Rh7 22 b5 Ne7 23 Ne7 Qe7 24 ba6 ba6 25 a5 Bc8 26 Rfe1 Qd7 27 d4 Ng4 28 f3 ed4 29 cd4 Ne5 30 Be2 f6 31 Kf1 fg5 32 de5 Rh4 33 Bc4 de5 34 Qb4 Qd4 0-1 Smyslov,Vassily - Robatsch,Karl [A41] Amsterdam olm Amsterdam, 1954 1 c4 g6 2 d4 Bg7 3 Nf3 d6 4 e4 e5 5 Be2 Nc6 6 Bg5 Nge7 7 d5 Nb8 8 Nc3 h6 9 Bd2 f5 10 ef5 Nf5 11 0-0 0-0 12 Rc1 Nd7 13 Ne4 Nf6 14 Bd3 g5 15 Bc3 Ne7 16 Ng3 Bg4 17 h3 Bd7 18 Nd2 Qe8 19 Nde4 Ne4 20 Be4 Ng6 21 Bb1 Nh4 22 Qd3 Nf5 23 Rce1 Qf7 24 Re3 Qe7 25 Rf3 e4 26 Ne4 Nh4 27 Nf6 Bf6 28 Rf6 Rf6 29 Bf6 Qf6 30 Qh7 Kf8 31 Qd7 Re8 32 Qc7 g4 33 hg4 Qf4 34 Bf5 1-0 Smyslov,Vassily - Unzicker,Wolfgang [A49] Hastings5455 Hastings (7), 1954 1 Nf3 Nf6 2 g3 g6 3 Bg2 Bg7 4 0-0 0-0 5 d4 d6 6 b3 Nbd7 7 Bb2 e5 8 de5 Nh5 9 Na3 de5 10 e4 Re8 11 Qe2 Nb6 12 Rfd1 Bd7 13 c4 Qe7 14 Nc2 Bc6 15 Ba3 Qe6 16 Ne3 Rad8 17 Nd5 Bd5 18 cd5 Qd7 19 Bb2 Nc8 20 Rac1 Nd6 21 Rc2 h6 22 Rdc1 Rc8 23 a4 Re7 24 Ba3 Nf6 25 Bh3 Qh3 26 Bd6 1-0 Smyslov,Vassily - Botvinnik,Mikhail [C17] World Championship 20th Moscow (9), 1954 1 e4 e6 2 d4 d5 3 Nc3 Bb4 4 e5 c5 5 a3 Ba5 6 b4 cd4 7 Qg4 Ne7 8 ba5 dc3 9 Qg7 Rg8 10 Qh7 Nd7 11 Nf3 Nf8 12 Qd3 Qa5 13 h4 Bd7 14 Bg5 Rc8 15 Nd4 Nf5 16 Rb1 Rc4 17 Nf5 ef5 18 Rb7 Re4 19 Qe4 de4 20 Rb8 Bc8 21 Bb5 Qb5 22 Rb5 Ne6 23 Bf6 Rg2 24 h5 Ba6 25 h6 1-0 Smyslov,Vassily - Botvinnik,Mikhail [D98] World Championship 21th Moscow (6), 1957 1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 g6 3 Nc3 d5 4 Nf3 Bg7 5 Qb3 dc4 6 Qc4 0-0 7 e4 Bg4 8 Be3 Nfd7 9 0-0-0 Nc6 10 h3 Bf3 11 gf3 Nb6 12 Qc5 f5 13 Ne2 Qd6 14 e5 Qc5 15 dc5 Nc4 16 f4 Rfd8 17 Bg2 Ne3 18 fe3 Nb4 19 Bb7 Rab8 20 c6 Kf7 21 Nd4 e6 22 Nb5 Nd5 23 Rd5 ed5 24 Nc7 Rdc8 25 Bc8 Rc8 26 Nd5 Rc6 27 Kd2 Ke6 28 Nc3 1-0 Smyslov,Vassily - Botvinnik,Mikhail [D99] World Championship 22th Moscow (11), 1958 1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 g6 3 Nc3 d5 4 Nf3 Bg7 5 Qb3 dc4 6 Qc4 0-0 7 e4 Bg4 8 Be3 Nfd7 9 Rd1 Nb6 10 Qb3 Nc6 11 d5 Ne5 12 Be2 Nf3 13 gf3 Bh5 14 h4 Qd7 15 a4 a5 16 Nb5 Nc8 17 Bd4 Nd6 18 Bg7 Kg7 19 Nd4 Kg8 20 Rg1 Qh3 21 Qe3 c5 22 dc6 bc6 23 Qg5 c5 24 Nc6 1-0 Smyslov,Vassily - Botvinnik,Mikhail [B11] World Championship 22th Moscow (19), 1958 1 e4 c6 2 Nc3 d5 3 Nf3 Bg4 4 h3 Bf3 5 Qf3 Nf6 6 d3 e6 7 a3 Be7 8 g4 Nfd7 9 d4 Nf8 10 Be3 Ng6 11 Qg3 Bh4 12 Qh2 Nd7 13 0-0-0 Qb8 14 f4 de4 15 Ne4 Nf6 16 Nf6 Bf6 17 Qf2 Bh4 18 Qf3 Ne7 19 Bd3 g6 20 f5 ef5 21 Bf4 Qd8 22 gf5 Qd5 23 Qg4 Bf6 24 Rhe1 h5 25 Qg3 h4 26 Qg4 gf5 27 Bf5 Kf8 28 Be4 Qa2 29 c3 Rd8 30 Rf1 Nd5 31 Bd2 Rd6 32 Qc8 Ke7 33 Qb7 Rd7 34 Rde1 Qa1 35 Bb1 1-0 And some tactics problems; mates in 2. When someone gave me Chess by Polgar he made the comment, that if I went through it all, I would probably increase about 400 points in strength; and, while I didn't quite get through every problem and game, I can definitely say this was fairly accurate. The other secret-super secret powerful secret of studying chess is that of memorizing grandmaster games; this can't be emphasized enough. If one gose through enough times to know through and through several alekhine, and other games, once ten is gotten to, a very very very significant jump in strength occurs; one that won't come after a year or more of simply playing. -------------------- Innocent, Oldfield & Hegerland Julia Delaney, Bothy Band Rasta Girl, Sister Carol Genesis, Jorma K I Wish You Peace, Lawrence Laughing Do Your Thing, Moondog Time Traveler's Guide
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sun child Registered: 02/12/15 Posts: 1,807 |
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and Petrosian; each of these were taken in general around the artists' peak, as worked out by http://chessmetrics.com/cm/, a very interesting and useful tool later on;
A note on notation; I don't use x's and +'s, there's no necessity to, it's just unnecessary information; also I recommend learning any chess notation one wishes; primarily the two I know are this way and the English descriptive, i.e. P-K4 etc. I never minded switching from one to another, and recommend the same; use them both naturally and they'll become second nature for sure. Anyway, enjoy. Milev,Zdravko - Petrosian,Tigran V [A60] Bucharest Bucharest (7), 1953 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.g3 c5 4.d5 ed5 5.cd5 d6 6.Bg2 g6 7.e4 Bg7 8.Ne2 0-0 9.0-0 Re8 10.f3 b5 11.a4 b4 12.Re1 Nbd7 13.Nf4 Ne5 14.Nd3 Nfd7 15.Nf2 c4 16.f4 Nd3 17.Nd3 cd3 18.Qd3 Nc5 19.Qd1 Ba6 20.Bf1 Ne4 21.Ba6 Qb6 22.Be3 Qa6 23.Bd4 Bd4 24.Qd4 Ng3 25.Nc3 bc3 26.hg3 c2 27.Kf2 Rac8 28.Re3 Re3 29.Qe3 Qc4 0-1 Geller,Efim P - Petrosian,Tigran V [C15] URS-training Garga (6), 1953 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.Bd3 c5 5.ed5 Qd5 6.Bd2 Bc3 7.Bc3 cd4 8.Bd4 e5 9.Bc3 Nc6 10.Qf3 Nf6 11.Qg3 0-0 12.Nf3 Bg4 13.0-0-0 Bf3 14.gf3 Qa2 15.Rhg1 g6 16.Qh4 Qe6 17.f4 Nd7 18.fe5 Nce5 19.Bb5 Nf3 20.Qf4 [20.Qh6 Nde5 21.Rg3] 20...Ng1 21.Re1 [21.Rd7 Rac8] 21...Qa2 22.Bc4 [22.Bd7 Rfe8 23.Be8 Qa1 24.Kd2 Rd8 25.Bd4 Rd4 26.Qd4 Nf3 27.Ke3 Nd4 28.Ra1 Nc2 29.Kd2 Na1] 22...Ne2 23.Re2 Qa1 24.Kd2 Nb6 25.Bf7 [25.Bb3 Rad8 26.Bd4] 25...Rf7 26.Qd4 Rd7 0-1 Petrosian,Tigran V - Porrecca,Giorgio [D08] Belgrade Belgrade (1), 1954 1 d4 d5 2 c4 e5 3 de5 d4 4 Nf3 Nc6 5 a3 Bg4 6 b4 Qe7 7 Qa4 0-0-0 8 Bf4 Bf3 9 gf3 Kb8 10 Nd2 Ne5 11 Qb3 Ng6 12 Bg3 f5 13 f4 Nf6 14 Qd3 Ne4 15 Bh3 Nd2 16 Kd2 Nf4 [16 ..Qf7 17 Qf5 Qc4 18 Rhc1] 17 Bf4 g5 18 Bc7 Qc7 19 Bf5 Qf4 20 Kc2 Qf2 21 Raf1 Qe3 22 Be4 Re8 23 Qe3 de3 24 Kd3 Re7 25 Rf5 h6 26 Rhf1 [26 h4 gh4 27 Rh4 Bg7 28 Ke3] 26 ..Bg7 27 Rf7 Rd8 28 Bd5 Rdd7 29 Re7 Re7 30 h3 Be5 31 Rf8 Kc7 32 c5 Bb2 33 a4 Rd7 34 Kc4 Rd8 35 Rd8 Kd8 36 Bb7 Kc7 37 Bf3 Be5 [37 ..Bc1 38 a5 (38 b5 Bd2 39 Kd4) 38 ..Bd2 39 a6 Be1 40 b5 Bg3 41 b6 Kb8 42 Kd4 Bf4] 38 b5 Bb2 39 a5 Be5 40 b6 ab6 41 cb6 1-0 Petrosian,Tigran V - Corral,H [D36] URU-URS Montevideo (1.5), 1954 1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 e6 3 Nc3 d5 4 cd5 ed5 5 Bg5 Nbd7 6 e3 Be7 7 Bd3 0-0 8 Nge2 Re8 9 Qc2 c6 10 h3 Ne4 11 Bf4 Ndf6 12 f3 Nc3 13 bc3 Bd6 [13 ..Nh5 14 Bh7 Kh8 15 Bd3 Bh4 16 Kf1 Nf4 17 ef4=] 14 Bd6 Qd6 15 e4 Nh5 16 e5 Qh6 17 Qd2 Qd2 18 Kd2 g6 19 g4 Ng7 20 h4 h6 21 Raf1 Bd7 22 Rhg1 b5 [22 ..c5 23 f4 Rad8 24 f5 gf5 25 gf5] 23 f4 a5 24 f5 gf5 25 gf5 Kh8 26 e6 fe6 27 f6 Nf5 28 Bf5 [28 Rg6!] 28 ..ef5 29 Rg7 1-0 Petrosian,Tigran V - Belkadi,Ridha [E87] FRA-URS Paris (2.6), 1954 1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 g6 3 Nc3 Bg7 4 e4 d6 5 f3 0-0 6 Be3 e5 7 d5 c5 8 g4 Ne8 [8 ..Na6] 9 Qd2 f5 10 gf5 gf5 11 0-0-0 a6 [11 ..Qh4 12 Bg5 Qh5] 12 h4 [12 ef5 Bf5 13 Nh3] 12 ..b5 13 cb5 ab5 14 Bb5 Ba6 15 Be8 [15 Ba6] 15 ..Qe8 16 Bh6 Ra7 17 Nh3 Rf6 18 Rdg1 Bc8 19 Bg5 Rf8 20 h5 Kh8 21 Nf2 Na6 22 ef5 e4 [22 ..Bf5] 23 f6 Bf6 24 Bf6 Rf6 25 Nfe4 1-0 Petrosian,Tigran V - Lisitsin,Georgy [E40] URS-chTJ Coop Riga, 1954 1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 e6 3 Nc3 Bb4 4 e3 d5 5 a3 Be7 6 Nf3 c5 7 dc5 Bc5 8 b4 Be7 9 cd5 ed5 10 Bb2 0-0 11 Be2 Be6 12 0-0 a5 13 ba5 Qa5 14 a4 Nbd7 15 Bb5 Rfc8 16 Ne2 Ne4 17 Nf4 Ndf6 18 Nd4 Nd2 [18 ..Qb6 19 Rb1 Qd6] 19 Nde6 fe6 20 Re1 Nde4 21 Bf6 [21 Ne6 Bb4 22 Re2 Bc3 23 Nd4] 21 ..Bf6 22 Rc1 Nd6 [22 ..Rc1 23 Qc1 Kf7 24 Bd3] 23 Rc8 Nc8 24 Bd7 Nb6 25 Be6 Kh8 26 Rf1 d4 27 Qf3 [27 ed4] 27 ..Na4 [27 ..de3 28 fe3 Qc5 29 Kh1] 28 Bd5 Qd8 29 Bb7 [29 Qh5] 29 ..Rb8 30 Be4 Nc3 31 Qh3 h6 [31 ..Bh4] 32 Bd3 [32 Ng6 Kh7 33 Bd3 Ne2 34 Kh1 Rb3] 32 ..Qe8 [32 ..Qc8 33 Ne6 Kg8] 33 Qf5 Kg8 34 Bc4 1-0 Vasiukov,Evgeni - Petrosian,Tigran V [B11] URS-chTJ Coop Riga, 1954 1 e4 c6 2 Nc3 d5 3 Nf3 Bg4 4 h3 Bf3 5 Qf3 Nf6 6 e5 Nfd7 7 e6 fe6 8 d4 e5 9 de5 Ne5 10 Qg3 Nf7 11 Bd3 e5 12 0-0 Nd7 13 Re1 [13 Na4 e4 14 Be2 Nf6] 13 ..Qf6 14 h4 [14 Re3 Bd6 15 Rf3 e4 16 Rf6 Bg3 17 Re6 Kd8 18 fg3 ed3 19 cd3 Nc5] 14 ..Be7 15 Rb1 Qh4 16 Qg7 Bf6 17 Qg3 Qg3 18 fg3 e4 19 Be2 Ke7 20 Bf4 Rhg8 21 Bh5 Nd6 22 Rbd1 Be5 23 Rf1 Bf4 24 Rf4 Rg3 25 Ne2 Rg5 26 Bg4 Rf8 27 Rdf1 Rf4 28 Rf4 Nf6 29 Bh3 c5 30 c3 Nc4 0-1 Petrosian,Tigran V - Benko,Pal C [E26] HUN-URS Budapest (7), 1955 1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 e6 3 Nc3 Bb4 4 e3 c5 5 a3 Bc3 6 bc3 Nc6 7 Bd3 b6 8 e4 e5 9 d5 Na5 10 Nf3 Qe7 11 0-0 Ba6 12 Nh4 [12 Qa4 0-0 13 Nh4 g6 14 Bg5 d6 15 g3] 12 ..g6 13 f4 0-0-0 14 Nf3 d6 [14 ..ef4 15 Bf4 Nh5 16 Bh6 Bc4 17 Bc4 Nc4 18 Qd3 Nd6 19 e5 Nf5 20 Bc1] 15 fe5 de5 16 Bg5 h6 17 Bh4 Rd6 18 Ne5 Qe5 19 Bg3 Qe7 [19 ..Qc3 20 Bd6 Bc4 21 Bc4 Nc4 22 Qa4] 20 e5 Rd7 21 Rf6 h5 22 h4 Bb7 23 Qa4 Rg8 24 Raf1 Rg7 25 d6 Qd8 26 e6 Rd6 27 Bd6 1-0 Sliwa,Bogdan - Petrosian,Tigran V [E70] Gothenburg Interzonal Gothenburg (19), 1955 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 c5 3.d5 d6 4.Nc3 g6 5.e4 Bg7 6.Nge2 0-0 7.Nf4 a6 8.Be2 b5 9.f3 bc4 10.Bc4 Nbd7 11.0-0 Ne5 12.Be2 Bd7 13.Qc2 Qa5 14.Bd2 Rfb8 15.Nd1 Qb6 16.Kh1 Ne8 17.Rb1 Nc7 18.Ne3 Nb5 19.Nc4 Qa7 20.Qd1 Nd4 21.b3 Bb5 22.Be3 Ne2 23.Qe2 a5 24.Rfc1 Qa6 25.Qc2 Bc4 26.bc4 Rb1 27.Rb1 Nc4 28.Bc1 a4 29.h3 a3 30.Nd3 h5 31.Rb3 Nb2 32.Nb2 Qf1 33.Kh2 ab2 34.Bb2 Ra2 35.Rb8 Kh7 36.e5 Rb2 0-1 Petrosian,Tigran V - Taimanov,Mark E [D46] URS-ch22 Moscow, 1955 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 d5 4.Nc3 c6 5.e3 Nbd7 6.Bd3 Bb4 7.0-0 0-0 8.Qc2 Bd6 9.b3 dc4 10.bc4 e5 11.Bb2 Re8 12.Ne4 Ne4 13.Be4 h6 14.Rad1 ed4 15.Bh7 Kh8 16.Rd4 Bc5 17.Rf4 Qe7 18.Re4 Qf8 19.Rh4 f6 20.Bg6 Re7 21.Rh5 Bd6 22.Rd1 Be5 23.Ba3 c5 24.Nh4 1-0 Petrosian,Tigran V - Kan,Ilia Abramovich [A08] URS-ch22 Moscow, 1955 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e6 3.d3 d5 4.Nbd2 Nc6 5.g3 Nf6 6.Bg2 Be7 7.0-0 0-0 8.Re1 de4 9.de4 b6 10.e5 Nd7 11.Ne4 Ba6 12.Bf4 b5 13.c3 Qb6 14.Qc2 Rfd8 15.h4 Nf8 16.h5 Rac8 17.h6 Ng6 18.hg7 Kg7 19.Qc1 Rd3 20.Bg5 Bg5 21.Qg5 Rf3 22.Bf3 Nce5 23.Qf6 Kg8 24.Rad1 Bb7 25.Bh5 Bd5 26.Qg5 Nd7 27.Bg6 hg6 28.Qe7 Rc7 29.Qh4 Rc8 30.b3 Kg7 31.Qe7 Nf8 32.Nd6 1-0 Sherbakov,Vitaly S - Petrosian,Tigran V [C15] URS-ch22 Moscow, 1955 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.Bd3 de4 5.Be4 Nf6 6.Bd3 c5 7.a3 Bc3 8.bc3 Qc7 9.Nf3 c4 10.Be2 Nd5 11.Qd2 Nd7 12.a4 N7f6 13.Qg5 0-0 14.Qh4 Nc3 15.Ra3 Ne2 16.Ke2 c3 17.Rd1 b6 18.Kf1 Ba6 19.Kg1 Be2 20.Re1 Bf3 21.gf3 Nd5 22.Re5 f5 23.Bf4 Qd8 24.Qg3 Qf6 25.Kh1 Qg6 26.Qh4 Qe8 27.Ra1 Rf6 28.Ree1 Rg6 29.Bg5 Qf7 30.Rg1 f4 31.Rg4 Qf5 32.Rag1 Qc2 33.Bh6 Qf5 34.Rg5 c2 35.Qh5 Rg5 36.Bg5 0-1 Simagin,Vladimir - Petrosian,Tigran V [B63] URS-ch22 Moscow, 1955 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 cd4 4.Nd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 d6 6.Bg5 e6 7.Qd2 h6 8.Bf6 gf6 9.0-0-0 a6 10.Nc6 bc6 11.f4 Qa5 12.Bc4 Be7 13.Rhe1 Rb8 14.Qd3 Kf8 15.Bb3 Qc5 16.Qf3 a5 17.e5 d5 18.f5 ef5 19.Qh5 Be6 20.g4 fg4 21.ef6 Bf6 22.Ne4 Qe7 23.Nf6 Qf6 24.Re5 Rg8 25.Rde1 Rg5 26.Qh4 Qf4 27.R5e3 Re5 28.Qg3 Qg3 29.hg3 Re3 30.Re3 Ke7 31.Re2 h5 32.Rh2 Rh8 33.Kd2 Kd6 34.Ke3 Ke5 35.c3 c5 36.Re2 Bf5 37.Kf2 Be4 0-1 Petrosian,Tigran V - Horowitz,Israel Albert [E61] URS-USA telex Moscow (1), 1955 1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.g3 g6 4.Bg2 Bg7 5.e3 0-0 6.Nge2 Nc6 7.0-0 d6 8.d4 Bd7 9.b3 Qc8 10.d5 Nb8 11.Nf4 Na6 12.Bb2 Nc7 13.a4 b6 14.Qc2 a6 15.Ne4 b5 16.Bf6 Bf6 17.Nf6 ef6 18.Qc3 bc4 19.bc4 Kg7 20.Rfb1 a5 21.Rb6 Ra6 22.Qb2 Rd8 23.Rb7 Re8 24.Ne2 Bf5 25.Nc3 h5 26.e4 Bd7 27.f4 Qd8 28.Rf1 Bc8 29.Rb3 Bd7 30.Qf2 Ra8 31.e5 de5 32.d6 Ne6 33.fe5 f5 34.Ba8 Qa8 35.Rb6 Nd4 36.Qf4 1-0 Horowitz,Israel Albert - Petrosian,Tigran V [E72] URS-USA telex Moscow (2), 1955 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 c5 3.d5 e5 4.Nc3 d6 5.e4 g6 6.g3 Bg7 7.Bg2 0-0 8.Nge2 Nh5 9.0-0 Nd7 10.Be3 f5 11.f4 ef4 12.Nf4 Nf4 13.Bf4 Ne5 14.Qe2 a6 15.Bh3 Bd7 16.ef5 gf5 17.Rae1 Qe8 18.Nd1 Qg6 19.Ne3 Rae8 20.Qc2 Qh5 21.Bg2 Re7 22.b4 b6 23.bc5 bc5 24.Qb3 Rfe8 25.Nc2 a5 26.h3 a4 27.Qb6 Qg6 28.Qa6 Bh6 29.Kh1 Bf4 30.gf4 Nd3 31.Re7 Re7 32.Qa5 Re2 33.Qd8 Be8 34.Bf3 Rc2 35.Bh5 Nf2 0-1 -------------------- Innocent, Oldfield & Hegerland Julia Delaney, Bothy Band Rasta Girl, Sister Carol Genesis, Jorma K I Wish You Peace, Lawrence Laughing Do Your Thing, Moondog Time Traveler's Guide
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sun child Registered: 02/12/15 Posts: 1,807 |
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just wanted to mention, that Russian chess book, the tactics one, is
"Шахматные Орешки" ("Chess Nuts") the cover looks like ![]() i found a site that is supposedly one is able to download it for free, but I can't read russian so didn't get very far, heh. that was from a redit page here: http://www.reddit.com/r/chess/co Oh! I figured out, it is pretty easy to download. go to here: http://bookfi.org/dl/687073/8d14 then click on the one that has PDF in it: Скачать (PDF), and I kinda forget exactly which one then, but one of those downloads it. . it's 14.4. mb i carried this book everywhere for a while, and it really has endless entertainment and instructional value, if you really get the passion for studying.. on a computer at least you can usually zoom in as well, to make the problems better. There's a Hare Krishna message in there, by the person who scanned it, so don't mind that haha if you're not interested.. the rest is straight the book, mostly problems, at the end a group of solutions; they get progressively more difficult fairly quickly; and they get quite high up there in beauty/complexity. enjoy. Also if you need any help looking something up online, i'm pretty good at that, i don't mind helpin' out. actually I think that's it, once you get to the PDF part it downloads. -------------------- Innocent, Oldfield & Hegerland Julia Delaney, Bothy Band Rasta Girl, Sister Carol Genesis, Jorma K I Wish You Peace, Lawrence Laughing Do Your Thing, Moondog Time Traveler's Guide
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sun child Registered: 02/12/15 Posts: 1,807 |
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game I annotated
[Site = Bern ] [Round "7"] [Date "1932.7.??"] [White "Alekhine, Alexander"] [Black "Flohr, Salo"] [Result "1-0"] 1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.e3 e6 4.Bd3 c5 5.c3 Nc6 6.Nbd2 Be7 7.O-O Qc7 8.Qe2 O-O 9.e4 de4 or 9. . . Bd7 10 dc5Bc5 11 e5 Ng4 12 Nb3 Bd6 10.Ne4 cd4 11.Nd4 Nd4 12.cd4 Ne4 Alternatively 12. . . Rd8 13 Rd1 Rd4 14 Nf6 Bf6 15 Be3 Rd5 16 Rac1 etc. 13.Be4 f5 13. . .Bd7 was better, 14 Be4 Bc6 15 Rac1 14.Bf3 Bf6 14. . . Bd6 would have kept the equality 15.Rd1 Rd8 16.Be3 Black should play either g5 or Bd7 here; g5 would be taking space on the Kingside, Bd7 would be continuing developing; but what he plays, f4, is a mistake that leaves his Kingside over-extended and exposed. White plays the simple Bd2, retreating and setting a trap. f4 16. . . Bd7 17.Rac1 Qd6 18.Bd2 What's black's best defense here? Bd4? wasn't it, falling into a tactical trap. 18. . . a5 or Rb8 would have been a reasonable defence. 18. . . a5 19 Qe1 Qb6 19 Ba5 Rd7 20.Rd4 Qd4 21.Qe6 Rf7 22.Rc8 Rc8 23.Qc8 Rf8 24.Qb7 Re8 25.h3 Qc5 26.Bc3 Qe7 27.Bd5+ Kh8 28.Qe7 28 Qc6 Rd8 29 Bb3, keeping the queens on board, would have been even better although after 28. . . Re7 29 Kf1 Re8 30 h4, there is nothing for black to do but wait for the axe to fall. . . 1-0 -------------------- Innocent, Oldfield & Hegerland Julia Delaney, Bothy Band Rasta Girl, Sister Carol Genesis, Jorma K I Wish You Peace, Lawrence Laughing Do Your Thing, Moondog Time Traveler's Guide
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sun child Registered: 02/12/15 Posts: 1,807 |
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(1) Alekhine,Alexander - Nimzowitsch,Aron
Bled Bled ;MAINB, 1931 1 e4 e6 2 d4 d5 3 Nc3 Bb4 4 Nge2 de4 5 a3 Bc3 6 Nc3 f5 7 f3 ef3 [7 ..Nc6 8 Bb5 (8 fe4 fe4 9 d5 ed5 10 Qh5 Kf8 11 Qd5 Qd5 12 Nd5 Nd4 13 Kd2 c5 a little better for black) 8 ..Nf6 9 Bc6 bc6 10 fe4 fe4 11 Bg5 Ba6 12 Qd2 0–0 is fine 8 Qf3 Qd4? [8 ..Nc6 9 Be3 Nd4 10 Qf2 Nc6 - - - - - 9 Qg3?! [9 Be3 Qg4 10 Qg4 fg4 11 Bc4 (11 Nb5 Na6 12 Bc4 Ne7 13 0–0 Bd7 14 Rad1 Bb5 15 Bb5 c6 16 Bd3 g6 is dead even) 11 ..Bd7 12 Rd1 Nc6 13 0–0 Nf6 is even] 9 ..Nf6 10 Qg7 Qe5 11 Be2 Rg8 12 Qh6 Rg6 13 Qh4 Bd7 [13 ..Rg4 14 Qh3 Bd7 15 0–0 Rg6 16 Bf4 Qc5 17 Kh1 Bc6 18 b4 Qe7 19 Bf3 Bf3 20 Qf3 Nc6 keeps it equal as well] 14 Bg5?! [14 Bf4! Qd4 15 Rd1 chasing the queen around, is better] 14 ..Bc6 [14 ..h6 last chance for resistance 15 Bh6 Rg4 16 Qh3 Bc6 17 Rg1 Rd4 occupying the center is a little bit of counterplay. White is slightly better.] - - - - 15 0–0–0 Bg2? 16 Rhe1?! [16 Rhg1 and it's all over 16 ..Nbd7 17 Rg2] 16 ..Be4 17 Bh5 Nh5 18 Rd8 Kf7 19 Qh5 1–0 -------------------- Innocent, Oldfield & Hegerland Julia Delaney, Bothy Band Rasta Girl, Sister Carol Genesis, Jorma K I Wish You Peace, Lawrence Laughing Do Your Thing, Moondog Time Traveler's Guide
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Random Observer Registered: 03/03/11 Posts: 7,639 Loc: Idaho |
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So what's the difference between a "tactical" player and a "positional" one?
You posted a lot of moves in the form of letter-number combinations, which is like Greek to me. Remember you're talking to a chess dolt here. If you're looking to discuss chess with other people more on your level then I can respect that and stand out of the way, but otherwise it's going to take me awhile to process the stuff you posted. Nevertheless here goes... Thanks for the advice by the way.
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Random Observer Registered: 03/03/11 Posts: 7,639 Loc: Idaho |
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When you say this for example:
15.Rd1 Rd8 Does that mean that one player moved rook from d1 to d8? Or does that mean white moved rook to d1, and black moved rook to d8?
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sun child Registered: 02/12/15 Posts: 1,807 |
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Quote: No problem at all ![]() what you are referring to, I believe is 'notation' each one is like a language almost - the most common two are algebraic and English descriptive, algebraeic has coordinates, the latter describes the squares based on which piece started on them; I've been using algebraeic, where each of the 64 squares has a designation, based on letters going horizontally, and numbers going vertically; so a-h on the horiz. and 1-8 vertically So for instance; as well as ![]() in this form of writing, black is always on the 8th, and white is always on the 1st and 2nd, rank to start with. . . Each piece is referred to by a capital letter, and if there is no letter, it's a pawn move. so Ne4 is Knight to e4, Ke4 would be King to e4, Bc7 is Bishop to c7, and so forth. Sometimes more than one piece (of the same type) can get to a square, when an additional number or letter will clarify, so Nbd2 is Knight on b-file, to d2 - or N8e7 would be Knight on the 8th rank, to e7. the way I write notation, I don't use x's or +'s, but those are sometimes used, they are x for capture, + for check. . . the reason I don't (most grandmaster publications these days don't) is that it takes extra time to write and print, and it doesn't add any information to it. . . and tactics and positional is another thing - short term combinations compared to long term strategy essentially, would get into that later on. Under tactics you have: knight fork, the pin, double attack, discovered attack, the skewer, etc. and others; and these are used in coordination with each other and various other things. Positional play involves long-term components, such as doubled pawns, and various other things. A simple game might be 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 etc., and so forth; Study whichever you feel like - these games by Petrosian and Smyslov I have found to be very wonderful; One good way to begin is to look at games by players you're interested in - starting with short games; like, with 20-25 moves or so. . . anyway it definitely is a gradual thing one of the important things, and this rule applies to learning anything,is the best way is to set a certain amount of time to it, every day; like, 15 minutes a day, or 10 minutes a day; or longer if you liked it that much but it's better to do it 15-30 minutes a day consistently than to do 2-3 hours one day and none the rest of the week, you know? Really big difference; that actually is a good secret, hehe so doing 10-15 minutes if that's what you felt like, or more; I'll probably check back here in a week or so, You get out of it what you put into it. ![]() Hope you enjoy it, and a brief word on those problems: the 22 in white ones are pretty simpler at the start of them, and are generally gradually getting tougher. . They're mostly mate problems but not always. -------------------- Innocent, Oldfield & Hegerland Julia Delaney, Bothy Band Rasta Girl, Sister Carol Genesis, Jorma K I Wish You Peace, Lawrence Laughing Do Your Thing, Moondog Time Traveler's Guide
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sun child Registered: 02/12/15 Posts: 1,807 |
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"Chess, first of all, is art." -- Mikhail Tal
"A strong memory, concentration, imagination, and a strong will is required to become a great chess player." - Bobby Fischer “I played Chess with him and would have beaten him sometimes only he always took back his last move, and ran the game out differently” - Mark Twain -------------------- Innocent, Oldfield & Hegerland Julia Delaney, Bothy Band Rasta Girl, Sister Carol Genesis, Jorma K I Wish You Peace, Lawrence Laughing Do Your Thing, Moondog Time Traveler's Guide
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L'une Registered: 09/17/11 Posts: 11,309 Last seen: 2 days, 2 hours |
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Answers at Yahoo tells me that a player can have up to nine queens. How many have you had on a board- and are there strategies to implement this?
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sun child Registered: 02/12/15 Posts: 1,807 |
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2 at most; it's very rare to see more than that, because the game is usually over pretty quickly at that point.
I only remember one game where both sides had two queens; it was an Alekhine game, and he won soon after. -------------------- Innocent, Oldfield & Hegerland Julia Delaney, Bothy Band Rasta Girl, Sister Carol Genesis, Jorma K I Wish You Peace, Lawrence Laughing Do Your Thing, Moondog Time Traveler's Guide
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sun child Registered: 02/12/15 Posts: 1,807 |
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So I mighta said, start with the shortest ones, that can be a good way to go
![]() so maybe Petrosian,Tigran V - Taimanov,Mark E [D46] URS-ch22 Moscow, 1955 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 d5 4.Nc3 c6 5.e3 Nbd7 6.Bd3 Bb4 7.0-0 0-0 8.Qc2 Bd6 9.b3 dc4 10.bc4 e5 11.Bb2 Re8 12.Ne4 Ne4 13.Be4 h6 14.Rad1 ed4 15.Bh7 Kh8 16.Rd4 Bc5 17.Rf4 Qe7 18.Re4 Qf8 19.Rh4 f6 20.Bg6 Re7 21.Rh5 Bd6 22.Rd1 Be5 23.Ba3 c5 24.Nh4 1-0 see if that one's any good. . Taimanov was a good player, got his career kind of crushed when he lost 0-6 to Fischer in the Candidates Quarterfinal. . Fischer, who alsob eat Larsen 6-0 and Petrosian, 6.5-2.5, giving him a 2800 rating, or thereabouts.. Anyway the Soviet government didn't believe Taimanov could have possibly lost all 6 games without throwing it intentionally, and set back his career greatly, I forget the details, although he did manage to come back some. -------------------- Innocent, Oldfield & Hegerland Julia Delaney, Bothy Band Rasta Girl, Sister Carol Genesis, Jorma K I Wish You Peace, Lawrence Laughing Do Your Thing, Moondog Time Traveler's Guide
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sun child Registered: 02/12/15 Posts: 1,807 |
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or here, i annotated it:
(89) Petrosian,Tigran - Taimanov,Mark (1955) 1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 e6 3 Nf3 d5 4 Nc3 c6 4 ..Nc6 5 e3 Bd7 6 a3 Bd6 7 cd5 ed5 8 Bd3 0–0 9 Bd2 is an interesting way of play that maintains equality 5 e3 Nbd7 6 Bd3 Bb4 [6 ..Bd6 7 0–0 0–0 8 Bd2] 7 0–0 0–0 8 Qc2 Bd6 9 b3 dc4 10 bc4 10. . . e5 10 ..h6 11 c5 Bc7 12 Ba3 Re8 13 Nd2 11 Bb2 Re8 12 Ne4 [12 Ng5] 12 ..Ne4 13 Be4 h6 black should play 13 ..g6 14 c5 Bc7 15 Qc4 ed4 16 Qd4 Nf6 17 Bc6 Qd4 18 Bd4 bc6 19 Bf6 Be6 20 Be5 Be5 21 Ne5 Bd5 with a solid, if defending position. 22 Nd3 Rab8 14 Rad1 now the advantage is considerable; white plays quite flawlessly from here out, and slackens not an inch in increasing it. 14 ..ed4 15 Bh7 Kh8 16 Rd4 Bc5 17 Rf4 Qe7 18 Re4 Qf8 19 Rh4 f6 20 Bg6 Re7 21 Rh5 Bd6 21 ..b6 22 Rd1 Bb7 23 Nh4 22 Rd1 Be5 23 Ba3 c5 24 Nh4 -------------------- Innocent, Oldfield & Hegerland Julia Delaney, Bothy Band Rasta Girl, Sister Carol Genesis, Jorma K I Wish You Peace, Lawrence Laughing Do Your Thing, Moondog Time Traveler's Guide
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Thinker, blinker, writer, typer. Registered: 11/26/14 Posts: 1,688 |
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How do you go about studying games, practically speaking? I mean, how do you find an interest, and insight. Etc. Not a player.
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sun child Registered: 02/12/15 Posts: 1,807 |
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Well, maybe the opening gets you interested in a specific player, or maybe you hear about it from someone. .
chess like all things is influenced by how interested we are in it, and that is largely influenced by the culture we're in. . Russia has so many great players because interest is high, which is the result over the centuries of a cultural love for the game.. In other words, I guess what I'm saying is the players allure us a little bit - Alekhine with his total brilliance and genius, yet a little bit tortured, etc., in fact most of the world champions had something to that effect (the former, not necessarily the latter); Capablanca was one of the most charismatic, and also played up on this a little; Carlsen, the current World Champ, is more like Capablanca in many ways than any other W.C., although I suspect Carlsen's staying power will be quite a bit more than the Cuban's, if he tries for it. Not only is he a selection from a greater pool of players, as well as appearing to have all the personality traits of a long-term champ, also he comes from a later age when certain info about how not to burn out at sports, etc., etc., is better explored and available. Also today, chess players are paid more than ever before (historically a startlingly low amount), for which, we cannot fail to mention Fischer, who, for all his antics, also did more than any player previously to improve players' monetary wins. This relates as in Capablanca's and Alekhine's day, and gradually less so up to the present day, funds and prizes for players were so low that merely making a living from the game was quite difficult, even for the top players; and Alekhine among others suffered several times. For this reason most grandmasters up through the 60's and 70's would generally have another job, often as a doctor or lawyer or musician/mathematician. -------------------- Innocent, Oldfield & Hegerland Julia Delaney, Bothy Band Rasta Girl, Sister Carol Genesis, Jorma K I Wish You Peace, Lawrence Laughing Do Your Thing, Moondog Time Traveler's Guide
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Random Observer Registered: 03/03/11 Posts: 7,639 Loc: Idaho |
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Obviously 9 queens means getting all of your 8 pawns over to the other side and keeping your original queen.
Lose one pawn and your aspirations are destroyed
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Random Observer Registered: 03/03/11 Posts: 7,639 Loc: Idaho |
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Thanks for the help man, your post on notations cleared up everything for me.
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sun child Registered: 02/12/15 Posts: 1,807 |
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No problem
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sun child Registered: 02/12/15 Posts: 1,807 |
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So here's an interesting problem. . .
This one was from Leko - Radjabov, late April in 2003. White has just taken the rook - and it's a check, so black has to respond. The question is - what's the win after Black takes the White queen? -------------------- Innocent, Oldfield & Hegerland Julia Delaney, Bothy Band Rasta Girl, Sister Carol Genesis, Jorma K I Wish You Peace, Lawrence Laughing Do Your Thing, Moondog Time Traveler's Guide
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sun child Registered: 02/12/15 Posts: 1,807 |
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trapping the queen - this one could be over at move 14, a fairly interesting line of play which traps the black queen
http://ficsgames.org/cgi-bin/sho . . . same opponent - this time the kings caught in the net; some interesting tactics here, too. http://ficsgames.org/cgi-bin/sho . . . oh - to go through the games quickly, if you click the > button, then you can SPACE-bar to move. . . this one i like because - i finally beat that computer Junior Lurking! i actually like playing computers a lot of the time more, because they don't have any ego, and it's just a pure chess competition. lovely for me anyway - one fond memory i have, when my friend andrei had given me tons of great music - most all of tull, zeppelin, deep purple, elo, alan parsons, les rockets, and quite a few others. . . learned about space, dschinghis khan, and boney m, etc. . well, i would create computer tournaments. . . have different engines playing against each other. sometimes i would do 2 minute 0 -- or, 3 or 5 made for slightly better games. . . and watch them play - or also, frequently I'd give them serious tournament time controls, (up to 7 hours per side). . . or simply 30 minutes or an hour - because then the strong computers start to play great. and this was back with Fritz 6 - who, was almost grandmaster strength, I'd say. Now-a-days- the basic level of Fritz that you get free with the 'Chessbase Reader' - Fritz 11 ( or was ) - is certainly grandmaster strength. . . very good level and solid analysis. . . good training partner if you learn how to use him right - and not be frustrated with any losses - nor how long the road to mastery might seem ! ![]() http://ficsgames.org/cgi-bin/sho . . . this one - I'm not sure how great it was, but I won, heh. It's alright - he resigned pretty early. http://ficsgames.org/cgi-bin/sho -------------------- Innocent, Oldfield & Hegerland Julia Delaney, Bothy Band Rasta Girl, Sister Carol Genesis, Jorma K I Wish You Peace, Lawrence Laughing Do Your Thing, Moondog Time Traveler's Guide
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sun child Registered: 02/12/15 Posts: 1,807 |
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it was cool, watchin' em play out their short tournies while going to sleep - or racing home from school in order to check out their brand new, more serious time-control games. . . what a beauty - and game - and free!
-------------------- Innocent, Oldfield & Hegerland Julia Delaney, Bothy Band Rasta Girl, Sister Carol Genesis, Jorma K I Wish You Peace, Lawrence Laughing Do Your Thing, Moondog Time Traveler's Guide
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The Nutter Registered: 11/26/12 Posts: 8,979 Loc: Canada |
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Love your thread!
![]() no offense, would you care to play me? just click: http://lichess.org/4HMf8RJr  ...I need to know whether I can learn anything from you -------------------- .
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sun child Registered: 02/12/15 Posts: 1,807 |
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Thanks!
![]() i much prefer fics, for many reasons. . ficsgames.org is one of them, very simple to search through all of your played games, are saved and accessible there; there is no gaudy advertising, no excess of any kind on the interface, so it runs much more smoothely ( for slower computers, which i perfectly am fine admitting mine is )anyway several other reasons too, but that's where i play; am happy to play there, if you wish. or please feel free to post a game or two or some problems! mates in 2 or 3 are especially ideal at simply improving tactical prowess. . which, as petrosian said, 'in chess, everything rests on tactics.' i wrote a little bit out about myself but deleted it.. i've been playing without ego since i was 12... or 11, but certainly by 12. i lost every game because i was playing strong players. . . so the best thing anyone can do really, besides studying of course, which is key - is play strong players. anyway i got to meet a lot of grandmasters, or at least several, for the first few years when i studied chess... and got to train with several, who were really wonderful. Gufeld's teachings are pretty central and key. . . very wonderful actually! Very good and direct, basic teachings to train with and remember always. . . they can be found in "Chess Stratgegy" (I think it's called) by him; other than that, many mentors like a genius from ____, and a calculus math teacher who taught me guitar also-- that was more the guitar part, another master named Funh, from Malaysia, and various other players and people. . . i pursued other things then - but there's one thing, that i really like to stress, is anyone can do it. it isn't genetics, talent, intelligence, or anything else - it's simply the desire to learn, and the faith in oneself that one can learn - those are not genetic or hereditary. And most especially it does not take money. . . or privilege, or anything to succeed at this life, except the wish to do so... i just say this because, i dunno - what the heck. The books are always open - the knowledge is always free - so why do people pay money for free things? anyway i ramble, but playing without ego is a big thing. . . or playing with ego sublimated. . . one can love the opponent as easily as one's heart, or family. . . and in fact, if you totally understand, and love your opponent, you'll be in that much more of an advantageous position against him / her. . . anyway this is probably pretty convoluted and you should forgive me if you feel kindly towards me for my incoherent ramblings. . . in fact i do know a great dael - and, one thing, a very strong personality is good for hcess - but!!!! it can get in your way!! so that's the thing to learn - to sublimate - that's the valuable thing i can tell you . sublimate your ego until it's pure love, and you're one with your best self, always. . . always look for love in everything - be the love, awareness, etc., that is transcending itself. . . as i say, that is the best way to ensure you don't get in your own way. . . ! :-) Self-faith, peace, confidence, ( peace without having to attain anything further ) etc. .. and the rest. study alekhine. world champs. . have a blast. ![]() King's Gambit. Generally a fast acting, tactical game. Here I make a bid for a quick conclusion - a sacrifice of a piece, with a quick recovery of it, but also a hidden trap. . The queen is on the knight and bishop, and giving the bishop two attackers. Black can defend, with Nd6, after which gives the possibility of a long struggle and protracted defense - unless more blunders happen. http://ficsgames.org/cgi-bin/sho well i thought - to save you the reading; they are here: ah! i wasn't able to find them, hehe. . . let's see if i can recall. . . 1. develop minor pieces first - knights first - 2. develop the kingside first and castle 3. push one or two pawns only ( pawn moves do not count as developing moves ) 4. push central pawns mainly - etc. ( another I would simply add - increidble rule - just, don't, push pawns in front of your king. . . learn to follow this rule before you learn to break it, and you'll win, and avoid, many, many games you would have otherwise not won, or had lost. ) 5. develop the rest of the minor pieces, develop the queen ( often to only a square adjacent ), and ' connect the rooks.' << connecting the rooks is very important because it basically means you have finished developing. >> 6. start a pawn roller attack, or find some weakness and attack! ! :-) well, i came up one short LoL! but i may have covered it. . . although i bet i missed one. a couple other things - you rarely want a piece of higher value defending pawns. . . So a queen or bishop guarding a pawn - this is generally a mistake. Why? You have relegated a higher officer - a higher piece - to the status of a guardsman. . . time to open up the position and allow your generals some room to breathe! ![]() also - 'Winning Chess' by Irving Chernev and Fred Reinfeld ( the former is the more valuable generally, in terms of authorship, sorry Fred! ) is incredible, a brilliantly well arranged book for learning tactics. . it's in English ( descrp. ) but oh vell! learn that language too, - i did from the beginning, and now have an equal grasp of both it and algebraeic ( which is more common, almost universal today ) .. good for beginning tactics, then Chess, 5,333 + 1 Combinations, Games and Puzzles (sth) by Lazlo Polgar, is mostly mate problems. . . it is transformational to any players' game who'se under 2000 I'd say, if they haven't gone through it. . . wonderful book. Alright I'm out - peace!
-------------------- Innocent, Oldfield & Hegerland Julia Delaney, Bothy Band Rasta Girl, Sister Carol Genesis, Jorma K I Wish You Peace, Lawrence Laughing Do Your Thing, Moondog Time Traveler's Guide
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Count Registered: 02/17/16 Posts: 23 Loc: Illinois Last seen: 1 year, 1 month |
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TRAP: Scandinavian, Caro-Kann theme de Firmian - Owen
Las Vegas 1995 1 e4 d5 2 exd5 Qxd5 3 Knc3 Qa5 4 d4 Knf6 5 Knf3 Bf5 6 Bd2 c6 7 Kne4 Qc7 8 Knxf6+ gxf6 9 g3 e6 10 Bg2 Knd7 11 0-0 Be4 12 Re1 f5 Black decides to maintain his bishop on e4, but there is a tactical flaw. The idea seen in this game is also relevant to the 3 Knc3 dxe4 4 Knxe4 Knf6 5 Knxf6+ gxf6 line of the Caro-Kann. 13 Kng5! Bxg2? 14 Rxe6+! Be7 14 ... fxe6 15 Qh5+ Kd8 16 Knxe6+ wins the queen. 15 Qh5 Rf8 16 Kxg2 16 Rae1 is also very strong. 16 ... Knf6 17 Rxf6 Bxf6 18 Knxh7 0-0-0 19 Knxf8 1-0 19 Knxf8 Rxf8 20 Qxf5+ picks up the bishop. --------------------
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Manifesting Minds Registered: 02/27/08 Posts: 4,144 Last seen: 6 months, 1 day |
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Nice thread, im playing on chess.com and lichess. not a strong player at all.
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