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larry.fisherman
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Re: My near death experience - Almost killed myself with irresponsible research chemical dosing. [Re: Trichome_Delta9]
#21759086 - 06/03/15 08:30 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Nothing I said indicated your accusation aside from your loose comprehension.
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Bill_Oreilly
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Re: My near death experience - Almost killed myself with irresponsible research chemical dosing. [Re: larry.fisherman]
#21759159 - 06/03/15 08:50 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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LOL XLcaps destroyed moonrock in this debate. Everyone go home while the doctors tend to the knocked-out moonrock.
Nothing to see here, folks.
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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moonrockmushy
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Re: My near death experience - Almost killed myself with irresponsible research chemical dosing. [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#21759171 - 06/03/15 08:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I actually felt like the two of us came to an understanding, but I don't really think much of someone's comprehension if they think the Bible makes alot of sense, so I'll let you think what you want
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404
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Re: My near death experience - Almost killed myself with irresponsible research chemical dosing. [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#21759173 - 06/03/15 08:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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404 said: and two strange men in business atire on bicycles at my doorstep at 10 in the morning
lolol
and yeah this thread is fuckin dumb i cant believe people care that much about other peoples religious beliefs everybody ruined it
p.s, I'm pretty sure people have had limbs chopped off from DOB overdoses before
i wouldn't doubt it, i would guess a lot of psychedelic phenethylamines hold the same risks for reasons aforementioned
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psychodelia
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Re: My near death experience - Almost killed myself with irresponsible research chemical dosing. [Re: 404] 2
#21759233 - 06/03/15 09:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Why does everyone care about whether people believe the same thing as them? If OP believes something else helped him keep his legs, than that's ok. I'm sure he thanked his doctors for all they did. I knew this thread would turn into an Internet bitch fight.
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lifeiswhatyoumake
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Re: My near death experience - Almost killed myself with irresponsible research chemical dosing. [Re: Supachopped719]
#21759252 - 06/03/15 09:12 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Supachopped719 said: Was it the etiz that made you dose so irresponsibly? I know that once you start dosing that shit all good decisions take a vacation for the day.
Never taken it but it seems from the reports that smart people go full retard on a benzo binge.
I think it might have been the Etiz that caused the chain reaction of bad decisions.
Etiz is really dangerous...
A friend of mine ODed on Etiz and died in his sleep a few weeks ago...
People should stay away from the stuff... way too dangerous.
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moonrockmushy
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Re: My near death experience - Almost killed myself with irresponsible research chemical dosing. [Re: psychodelia]
#21759295 - 06/03/15 09:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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psychodelia said: Why does everyone care about whether people believe the same thing as them? If OP believes something else helped him keep his legs, than that's ok. I'm sure he thanked his doctors for all they did. I knew this thread would turn into an Internet bitch fight.
I don't know why it matters to people, but obviously it does. Like how people like to come in and make pointless comments about how everyone else's comments are pointless. It is just a thing that people do. It's a discussion forum. If you don't like the discussion, don't take part. None of us own this thread, even OP.
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jsncrs
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Re: My near death experience - Almost killed myself with irresponsible research chemical dosing. [Re: psychodelia]
#21759306 - 06/03/15 09:25 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Fuck man. Haven't read through the whole thread, but did they say specifically (or figure out) what caused this to happen in the first place?
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lifeiswhatyoumake
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Re: My near death experience - Almost killed myself with irresponsible research chemical dosing. [Re: nooneman]
#21759329 - 06/03/15 09:32 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Zombi3 said: - roughly 200mg allylescaline
This is almost certainly more allylescaline than anyone else has ever consumed. You're the only one to ever go that high with AL. I have to admit, I'm curious. Does it get any more visual at extremely high doses?
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- roughly 32mg DOC (in 3 doses (8mg, 8mg, and 16mg))
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- roughly 70mg DOC in multiple redoses, averaging 10-15mg per redose
DOC (like all DOx) is well known to last days or longer in overdose. This is an extreme overdose to say the least. You might also hold the record here for most DOC ever taken by anyone ever. I'm surprised this didn't kill you outright immediately. It speaks to the safety of DOC that this wasn't immediately lethal.
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- nearly 200mg 2C-C in multiple redoses
This alone is a MASSIVE overdose of 2C-C. Like JESUS. That's a LOT. This is like the time when that member (forget who exactly) misread the scale and consumed hundreds of milligrams of 2CP. Granted, 2CP is much less forgiving, but still. This ALONE is a massive overdose.
You probably hold two world records for psychedelic consumption.
You seem to be forgetting that Zombi3 was also under the influence of a shit-ton of benzos during the entire time. His "trip" on the psychs is completely messed up because of this. None of what he experienced is typical of what some one would experience if they took as many psychs alone as he did.
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Bitter Cactus
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Re: My near death experience - Almost killed myself with irresponsible research chemical dosing. [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
#21759442 - 06/03/15 09:57 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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lifeiswhatyoumake said:
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Supachopped719 said: Was it the etiz that made you dose so irresponsibly? I know that once you start dosing that shit all good decisions take a vacation for the day.
Never taken it but it seems from the reports that smart people go full retard on a benzo binge.
I think it might have been the Etiz that caused the chain reaction of bad decisions.
Etiz is really dangerous...
A friend of mine ODed on Etiz and died in his sleep a few weeks ago...
People should stay away from the stuff... way too dangerous.

I say it nearly everyday, but nothing good comes of etizolam. Straight the fuck up that shit has ruined and ended so many lives.
-------------------- Taking acid and thinking you are a better man is a lot different then actually becoming a better man.
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jsncrs
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Re: My near death experience - Almost killed myself with irresponsible research chemical dosing. [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#21759598 - 06/03/15 10:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bitter Cactus said:
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lifeiswhatyoumake said:
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Supachopped719 said: Was it the etiz that made you dose so irresponsibly? I know that once you start dosing that shit all good decisions take a vacation for the day.
Never taken it but it seems from the reports that smart people go full retard on a benzo binge.
I think it might have been the Etiz that caused the chain reaction of bad decisions.
Etiz is really dangerous...
A friend of mine ODed on Etiz and died in his sleep a few weeks ago...
People should stay away from the stuff... way too dangerous.

I say it nearly everyday, but nothing good comes of etizolam. Straight the fuck up that shit has ruined and ended so many lives.
I take etiz maybe once a week on average, maybe once every 2 weeks when I have trouble sleeping. I'm always hesitant to chemically induce sleep, especially with benzo's, but if I have an early morning the next day I'll take 1mg right before I go to bed. Would you say this is safe enough to do? is it usually blindly re-dosing that gets people into trouble?
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Re: My near death experience - Almost killed myself with irresponsible research chemical dosing. [Re: jsncrs]
#21759611 - 06/03/15 10:43 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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continual redosing blindly or not is what gets people fucked.
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Bitter Cactus
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Re: My near death experience - Almost killed myself with irresponsible research chemical dosing. [Re: rackem]
#21759622 - 06/03/15 10:46 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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The stuff pulls you in. I would rather have a heroin habit then an etizolam addiction. Regular etizolam use is just a shit storm of rationalizations and going back on the schedule you set and physical addictions and hell.
Etizolam leads to nothing good in the long term and often the short term. Get a benzo prescription from your doc if you have anxiety. Having a huge supply of etizolam and no guidelines is gonna be a bad time.
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Re: My near death experience - Almost killed myself with irresponsible research chemical dosing. [Re: jsncrs]
#21759639 - 06/03/15 10:50 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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That is safe trust me. Benzos had no role in making his legs turn off. The stupid decision making from them may have contributed but in no way did a benzo or derivative of a thieno cause his legs to become vasoconstricted. I'm sure he knew that taking this much of a drug was overdosing. It doesn't really say he was blacked out and woke up and all his stash was consumed.
It seems he thought he could dose this high for some unknown reason. Neglecting to take in that DOC was lingering in his system from his first initial dosing. Then the buildup causing the effects. He's lucky that his body for some reason knew to turn off his extremities first. This is a response to save organs and vital parts from death. That is why most cases of DOB overdose included hands/legs dying first. In a sever case you'd just go into tachycardia and die. Benzos are actually good for overdoses on amphetamines but have been shown to not be helpful in reversing the effects of DOB/DOC/Bromo-dragonfly. You need to block the serotonin for a response.
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jsncrs
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Re: My near death experience - Almost killed myself with irresponsible research chemical dosing. [Re: Gorlax]
#21759661 - 06/03/15 10:56 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Gorlax said: That is safe trust me. Benzos had no role in making his legs turn off. The stupid decision making from them may have contributed but in no way did a benzo or derivative of a thieno cause his legs to become vasoconstricted. I'm sure he knew that taking this much of a drug was overdosing. It doesn't really say he was blacked out and woke up and all his stash was consumed.
It seems he thought he could dose this high for some unknown reason. Neglecting to take in that DOC was lingering in his system from his first initial dosing. Then the buildup causing the effects. He's lucky that his body for some reason knew to turn off his extremities first. This is a response to save organs and vital parts from death. That is why most cases of DOB overdose included hands/legs dying first. In a sever case you'd just go into tachycardia and die. Benzos are actually good for overdoses on amphetamines but have been shown to not be helpful in reversing the effects of DOB/DOC/Bromo-dragonfly. You need to block the serotonin for a response.
Thanks for the response  I've never had an issue with re-dosing or addiction, only ever take it right before climbing into bed. I never use it recreationally and never exceed 1mg. I've heard way too many etiz horror stories and know it's not to be fucked with.
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lifeiswhatyoumake
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Re: My near death experience - Almost killed myself with irresponsible research chemical dosing. [Re: jsncrs]
#21759669 - 06/03/15 10:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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... yet you fuck with it. Such irony.
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Re: My near death experience - Almost killed myself with irresponsible research chemical dosing. [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
#21759701 - 06/03/15 11:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I recommend to you zombi3 the Gospel of Thomas. Its a great read, but was excluded from the Holy Bible. It paints a whole new Jesus.
-------------------- When you see him look him in the eye, look him in the eye and he won’t dare to follow If you need to, hook him with your right, hook him with your right till he wiggles and wallows He sleeps atop a bag of raven’s legs, curled up rats napping by his head Takes his eye out with a ball point pen And makes nunchaku with his torn off legs You wake up with a hatchet over your head You wake up with a hatchet over your head
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jsncrs
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Re: My near death experience - Almost killed myself with irresponsible research chemical dosing. [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
#21759764 - 06/03/15 11:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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lifeiswhatyoumake said: ... yet you fuck with it. Such irony.
Respectfully.
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lifeiswhatyoumake
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Re: My near death experience - Almost killed myself with irresponsible research chemical dosing. [Re: Zombi3]
#21759776 - 06/03/15 11:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm glad to read that you're okay Zombi3! That seems like it was quite a scary event you just went through...
Now seems like it's a good time to really learn about yourself and figure out who you are. It might take time. You need to be patient and let yourself recover from this massive overdose.
Embrace the healing.
Bond with your family and friends.
Don't just focus on protein powder smoothies... go real natural. Make strawberry banana smoothies! Or blackberry banana smoothies. Whatever sounds good.
If you ever need some one to talk to about anything then hit me up if ya want.
I'm a Christian, by the way.
    
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lifeiswhatyoumake
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Re: My near death experience - Almost killed myself with irresponsible research chemical dosing. [Re: jsncrs]
#21759791 - 06/03/15 11:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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jsncrs said:
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lifeiswhatyoumake said: ... yet you fuck with it. Such irony.
Respectfully.
I hope you realize that using an extremely addictive substance as a means to sleep is a horrible idea. You sound naive. You should stop that habit and learn how to naturally fall asleep like a healthy person does.
If you really have trouble sleeping then you should talk to a doctor.
Self-prescribing with a drug like Etiz will lead to a bad dead-end.
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