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some bitches just can't take a joke v. donut shop
    #21751790 - 06/02/15 08:46 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

There's a hot girl front of me at the donut shop.  She picks out 10 donuts.  Donut employee says "Miss, you should pick 2 more to make it a dozen so it'll be cheaper.".  She says ok and picks 2 more. 

I say to her: "damn... that's a lot of donuts.  I don't know how you're going to finish all of them. I can usually only eat 10.".

She says "UGH... they're for my office, not me."

I say "Yea, suuuuurrrrre" (with a smile on my face so she knows I'm being sarcastic)

She turns around, rolls her eyes and shakes her head like a valley girl, pays the donut man and promptly leaves the store.


:lol: I think I may have hit a nerve


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Re: some bitches just can't take a joke v. donut shop [Re: FriedEgg]
    #21751796 - 06/02/15 08:47 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Bitches be trippin bro


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Re: some bitches just can't take a joke v. donut shop [Re: FriedEgg]
    #21751801 - 06/02/15 08:51 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

She's probably on the road to becoming fat and she knows it, so she was cranky about your funny joke


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Re: some bitches just can't take a joke v. donut shop [Re: FriedEgg]
    #21751820 - 06/02/15 08:58 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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:lol: I think I may have hit a nerve




Indeed you did..

She was probably already dreading making the purchase, and most likely a shallow and vain person

She probably thought "i don't want guys to see me buying a dozen donuts!!, i'll look like a pig, do I look like i eat 12 donuts??!!"..

So when you said that, she was already full of worries in her head...and melted all over the donut shop...


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Re: some bitches just can't take a joke v. donut shop [Re: 1234go] * 8
    #21751846 - 06/02/15 09:12 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Just think, when she gets to the office her story is going to be:

"So this creepy guy at the donut shop was flirting with me with lame jokes and..."


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Re: some bitches just can't take a joke v. donut shop [Re: badchad]
    #21751863 - 06/02/15 09:19 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Just think, when she gets to the office her story is going to be:

"So this creepy guy at the donut shop was flirting with me with lame jokes and..."



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Re: some bitches just can't take a joke v. donut shop [Re: FriedEgg]
    #21751881 - 06/02/15 09:23 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Fuck now I want donuts. Or crepes.

Some type of pastry.

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Re: some bitches just can't take a joke v. donut shop [Re: Adden] * 3
    #21751887 - 06/02/15 09:26 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

OP, she might call the cops on you for sexual assault. Don't piss off a female today!


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Re: some bitches just can't take a joke v. donut shop [Re: badchad]
    #21751899 - 06/02/15 09:29 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Just think, when she gets to the office her story is going to be:

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Re: some bitches just can't take a joke v. donut shop [Re: FriedEgg] * 1
    #21751903 - 06/02/15 09:31 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

you should have offered her a glazed hotdog


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Re: some bitches just can't take a joke v. donut shop [Re: Adden]
    #21751918 - 06/02/15 09:36 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Fuck now I want donuts. Or crepes.

Some type of pastry.

:crankey:



mmmm it was so good.  the donuts the girl got looked really good too.  they had cream and fresh strawberries.  kinda like this.

i bet she's stuffing her face with them right now






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Re: some bitches just can't take a joke v. donut shop [Re: FriedEgg] * 3
    #21751925 - 06/02/15 09:39 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

She probably ate half threw up and now is going for a second round


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Re: some bitches just can't take a joke v. donut shop [Re: FriedEgg]
    #21751930 - 06/02/15 09:41 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Those look delicious. I want them.


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Re: some bitches just can't take a joke v. donut shop [Re: FriedEgg]
    #21751949 - 06/02/15 09:47 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I'm sure she can take a joke when she wants to hear one. Who doesn't like a good joke?


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Re: some bitches just can't take a joke v. donut shop [Re: D.M.T]
    #21751965 - 06/02/15 09:51 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I'm sure she can take a joke when she wants to hear one. Who doesn't like a good joke?



nahh,  if should could take a joke, she probably would have gave me a pitty laugh or shown no response.  instead, she was offended and tried to explain herself.


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Re: some bitches just can't take a joke v. donut shop [Re: FriedEgg]
    #21751975 - 06/02/15 09:55 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Well you basically called her fat in her mind, and on top of that, she probably thought you were a creep hitting on her. That was her way of saying, "look buddy, I'm not interested"


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Re: some bitches just can't take a joke v. donut shop [Re: D.M.T]
    #21751992 - 06/02/15 09:58 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

well that's her other problem...  she thought i was hitting on her.


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Re: some bitches just can't take a joke v. donut shop [Re: FriedEgg]
    #21752003 - 06/02/15 10:01 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Do you blame her? You said she's hot, so she probably gets it all the time. Would you have even said anything to her if she was obese or ugly?


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Re: some bitches just can't take a joke v. donut shop [Re: Adden]
    #21752008 - 06/02/15 10:02 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Fuck now I want donuts. Or crepes.

Some type of pastry.

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Re: some bitches just can't take a joke v. donut shop [Re: D.M.T]
    #21752050 - 06/02/15 10:13 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Do you blame her? You said she's hot, so she probably gets it all the time. Would you have even said anything to her if she was obese or ugly?



If some dude makes a smartass joke to you at 6am in a donut shop and makes no sexual advances, he's probably not hitting on you.  He's more than likely just passing the time and trying to put a smile on your face before you start your day.

If she was fat, I wouldn't make that joke because it would without a doubt be taken seriously and really hurt her feelings.  Just like making a midget joke to Shaq is not offensive but making a midget joke to a real midget is just plain wrong.


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Re: some bitches just can't take a joke v. donut shop [Re: D.M.T]
    #21752060 - 06/02/15 10:16 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Well you basically called her fat in her mind, and on top of that, she probably thought you were a creep hitting on her. That was her way of saying, "look buddy, I'm not interested"





That's her paranoid problem....not his.

That was her way of saying "i have emotional issues, i'm unhappy and miserable. " not "i'm not interested"


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Re: some bitches just can't take a joke v. donut shop [Re: 1234go]
    #21752078 - 06/02/15 10:21 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

It shouldn't bother him so much if he was just trying to make her smile. Every comedian knows some jokes are a hit and some jokes are a miss. That one was a miss. My jokes are a miss all the time on this website. I don't make threads about it and call you a bunch of bitches that can't take a joke.


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Re: some bitches just can't take a joke v. donut shop [Re: D.M.T]
    #21752089 - 06/02/15 10:23 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Honestly OP it was really dumb telling a fat joke to a chick. Idk why you expected her to think that was funny. Girls are really sensitive about their weight/appearance. Have some more social awareness next time.


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Re: some bitches just can't take a joke v. donut shop [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #21752210 - 06/02/15 11:02 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

DMT, don't get me wrong. I'm not butthurt.


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Honestly OP it was really dumb telling a fat joke to a chick. Idk why you expected her to think that was funny. Girls are really sensitive about their weight/appearance. Have some more social awareness next time.



It wasn't exactly a "Fat joke" but yea I guess you're right.  I still don't regret it though...  There are happy people out there who enjoy random encounters like that...  Once upon a time, a woman made a similarly goofy comment about me buying a giant tub of ice cream at 1am and I found it absolutely hilarious.  :shrug:


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Re: some bitches just can't take a joke v. donut shop [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #21752250 - 06/02/15 11:11 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Honestly OP it was really dumb telling a fat joke to a chick. Idk why you expected her to think that was funny. Girls are really sensitive about their weight/appearance. Have some more social awareness next time.




Well, yeah you're right...true true...

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It wasn't exactly a "Fat joke" but yea I guess you're right.  I still don't regret it though...  There are happy people out there who enjoy random encounters like that...  Once upon a time, a woman made a similarly goofy comment about me buying a giant tub of ice cream at 1am and I found it absolutely hilarious





Also true. Plenty of people can distinguish between friendly, creepy and douche bag, putting insecurities aside and find humor in the situation.


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Re: some bitches just can't take a joke v. donut shop [Re: FriedEgg]
    #21752252 - 06/02/15 11:11 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Some people just don't like when you talk to them in public.  Sometimes if I am in a pissy mood I will just give people a look if they joke with me, and sometimes I don't pick up on jokes.  Then you've got jokes like this:

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OP, she might call the cops on you for sexual assault. Don't piss off a female today!




Do you know the reason why women are so sensitive about sexual assault?  What did she do that makes you say this?  Why does any of this even have to do with her being a woman?

It's kinda funny to me that the people who will demean women for expressing that they are uncomfortable in certain situations are the same people who think that whites are the real victims of racism :smirk: Also kinda obnoxious tho


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Re: some bitches just can't take a joke v. donut shop [Re: 1234go]
    #21752257 - 06/02/15 11:12 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I see your point as well 1234go... I just wouldn't have ever done that myself.


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Re: some bitches just can't take a joke v. donut shop [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #21752262 - 06/02/15 11:13 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Some people just don't like when you talk to them in public.  Sometimes if I am in a pissy mood I will just give people a look if they joke with me, and sometimes I don't pick up on jokes.  Then you've got jokes like this:

Quote:

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OP, she might call the cops on you for sexual assault. Don't piss off a female today!




Do you know the reason why women are so sensitive about sexual assault?  What did she do that makes you say this?  Why does any of this even have to do with her being a woman?

It's kinda funny to me that the people who will demean women for expressing that they are uncomfortable in certain situations are the same people who think that whites are the real victims of racism :smirk: Also kinda obnoxious tho



I think he's referring to I like cow poo's thread..


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Re: some bitches just can't take a joke v. donut shop [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #21752277 - 06/02/15 11:16 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I see your point as well 1234go... I just wouldn't have ever done that myself.





I honestly wouldn't have either. That's a big no-no.

That's more something you'd say to a little kid who just got a huge ice cream cone or something.
Or if you know the girl personally, it'd probably go over smoother.

There's just time and a damn place for these things..


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Re: some bitches just can't take a joke v. donut shop [Re: 1234go] * 1
    #21752301 - 06/02/15 11:22 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I find that complimenting women is the best way to hit on them (specifically articles of clothing or their hair).  Don't go overboard with it. "HEY NICE TITS"

But definitely not, "HEY BITCH YOU REALY GONNA EAT ALL THEM DONUTS BY YOURSELF?!"


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Re: some bitches just can't take a joke v. donut shop [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #21752309 - 06/02/15 11:25 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Some people just don't like when you talk to them in public.  Sometimes if I am in a pissy mood I will just give people a look if they joke with me, and sometimes I don't pick up on jokes.



Exactly. All three sentences I feel are applicable in OP's situation, especially since it's 6 in the morning. She probably just woke up and was really tired.


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Re: some bitches just can't take a joke v. donut shop [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #21752310 - 06/02/15 11:25 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I think he's referring to I like cow poo's thread..




Fair enough, not really up to date on that situation.  I just don't like when people take the attitude that women are eager to abuse the legal system for trivial things.  I don't believe that is generally true, even if it does happen once in a while. 

My main point is that I can relate.  I may be bitchy, and I'm from an area where people aren't especially outgoing, so when people start joking with me out of nowhere sometimes it can catch me off gaurd and I will be like :wtf: and then sometimes I'll walk away and realize they were joking.  It's a little rude, but so is sarcasm/deprecating jokes in many people's opinions.


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Re: some bitches just can't take a joke v. donut shop [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #21752318 - 06/02/15 11:27 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Ops just made he found out he isn't as funny as he thought he was this morning :lol:


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Re: some bitches just can't take a joke v. donut shop [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #21752320 - 06/02/15 11:28 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I find that complimenting women is the best way to hit on them (specifically articles of clothing or their hair).  Don't go overboard with it. "HEY NICE TITS"

But definitely not, "HEY BITCH YOU REALY GONNA EAT ALL THEM DONUTS BY YOURSELF?!"





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Re: some bitches just can't take a joke v. donut shop [Re: 1234go] * 1
    #21752324 - 06/02/15 11:28 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

At least he isn't as mad as the guy who found out he isn't that great of a rapper.


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Re: some bitches just can't take a joke v. donut shop [Re: D.M.T]
    #21752327 - 06/02/15 11:29 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

That was probably the worst rap song i've ever heard in my life and that's saying something


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    #21752329 - 06/02/15 11:30 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I bet she doesn't even have a job, and is sitting in front of grey's anatomy right now on donut #9


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Re: some bitches just can't take a joke v. donut shop [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #21752364 - 06/02/15 11:40 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I think he's referring to I like cow poo's thread..




Fair enough, not really up to date on that situation.  I just don't like when people take the attitude that women are eager to abuse the legal system for trivial things.  I don't believe that is generally true, even if it does happen once in a while. 

My main point is that I can relate.  I may be bitchy, and I'm from an area where people aren't especially outgoing, so when people start joking with me out of nowhere sometimes it can catch me off gaurd and I will be like :wtf: and then sometimes I'll walk away and realize they were joking.  It's a little rude, but so is sarcasm/deprecating jokes in many people's opinions.




"I just don't like when people take the attitude that women are eager to abuse the legal system"

Too bad, but the reality is that women abuse the legal and the workforce discipline systems multiple times more than men do today.

Males usually can't be victims when it comes to men vs women physical and verbal altercations, it's a nice weapon to have when a female gets pissed off at a man, for him it's guilty until proven innocent.


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Re: some bitches just can't take a joke v. donut shop [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #21752365 - 06/02/15 11:40 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: some bitches just can't take a joke v. donut shop [Re: qman]
    #21752369 - 06/02/15 11:42 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I think he's referring to I like cow poo's thread..




Fair enough, not really up to date on that situation.  I just don't like when people take the attitude that women are eager to abuse the legal system for trivial things.  I don't believe that is generally true, even if it does happen once in a while. 

My main point is that I can relate.  I may be bitchy, and I'm from an area where people aren't especially outgoing, so when people start joking with me out of nowhere sometimes it can catch me off gaurd and I will be like :wtf: and then sometimes I'll walk away and realize they were joking.  It's a little rude, but so is sarcasm/deprecating jokes in many people's opinions.




"I just don't like when people take the attitude that women are eager to abuse the legal system"

Too bad, but the reality is that women abuse the legal and the workforce discipline systems multiple times more than men do today.



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Re: some bitches just can't take a joke v. donut shop [Re: qman]
    #21752402 - 06/02/15 11:50 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I think he's referring to I like cow poo's thread..




Fair enough, not really up to date on that situation.  I just don't like when people take the attitude that women are eager to abuse the legal system for trivial things.  I don't believe that is generally true, even if it does happen once in a while. 

My main point is that I can relate.  I may be bitchy, and I'm from an area where people aren't especially outgoing, so when people start joking with me out of nowhere sometimes it can catch me off gaurd and I will be like :wtf: and then sometimes I'll walk away and realize they were joking.  It's a little rude, but so is sarcasm/deprecating jokes in many people's opinions.




"I just don't like when people take the attitude that women are eager to abuse the legal system"

Too bad, but the reality is that women abuse the legal and the workforce discipline systems multiple times more than men do today.

Males usually can't be victims when it comes to men vs women physical and verbal altercations, it's a nice weapon to have when a female gets pissed off at a man, for him it's guilty until proven innocent.




Do you have anything to back that up?  Preferably from a non-MRA source if you're trying to convince me.

Another reality is that sexual assaults are often under-reported, and in some placed in the world written off as the fault of the woman.  I think it is suspicious to be so involved in the cause of protecting men from false allegations without acknowledging that sexual assault is a real problem, and by and large women are the main victims.

I mean if someone can say that white people are the main victims of racism in America today, I can see how they would think that men suffer more from punishments aimed at sexual offenders than women suffer from actual assaults and harassment.  I'm sure it's just a coincidence that 99% of people with this belief are socially conservative white males.

It's just so clearly confirmation bias to me.  Like I can admit that it is a problem if a woman abuses the legal system in any way, but I balance that with the fact that sexual assault does occur and it is pretty tasteless to accuse every woman who speaks about sexual assault of being a liar. 

That is such an extremely cynical view.  Honestly it is just as bad IMO or worse than all the modern feminists who would accuse all men of taking advantage of women, but for some reason these days it is fashionable to take an extreme viewpoint and not have a balanced view of anything.


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Re: some bitches just can't take a joke v. donut shop [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #21752468 - 06/02/15 12:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I wish my girl could eat 12 creamy donuts. That means she could easily eat my creamy stuff no problem


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Re: some bitches just can't take a joke v. donut shop [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #21752504 - 06/02/15 12:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I think he's referring to I like cow poo's thread..




Fair enough, not really up to date on that situation.  I just don't like when people take the attitude that women are eager to abuse the legal system for trivial things.  I don't believe that is generally true, even if it does happen once in a while. 

My main point is that I can relate.  I may be bitchy, and I'm from an area where people aren't especially outgoing, so when people start joking with me out of nowhere sometimes it can catch me off gaurd and I will be like :wtf: and then sometimes I'll walk away and realize they were joking.  It's a little rude, but so is sarcasm/deprecating jokes in many people's opinions.




"I just don't like when people take the attitude that women are eager to abuse the legal system"

Too bad, but the reality is that women abuse the legal and the workforce discipline systems multiple times more than men do today.

Males usually can't be victims when it comes to men vs women physical and verbal altercations, it's a nice weapon to have when a female gets pissed off at a man, for him it's guilty until proven innocent.




Do you have anything to back that up?  Preferably from a non-MRA source if you're trying to convince me.

Another reality is that sexual assaults are often under-reported, and in some placed in the world written off as the fault of the woman.  I think it is suspicious to be so involved in the cause of protecting men from false allegations without acknowledging that sexual assault is a real problem, and by and large women are the main victims.

I mean if someone can say that white people are the main victims of racism in America today, I can see how they would think that men suffer more from punishments aimed at sexual offenders than women suffer from actual assaults and harassment.  I'm sure it's just a coincidence that 99% of people with this belief are socially conservative white males.

It's just so clearly confirmation bias to me.  Like I can admit that it is a problem if a woman abuses the legal system in any way, but I balance that with the fact that sexual assault does occur and it is pretty tasteless to accuse every woman who speaks about sexual assault of being a liar. 

That is such an extremely cynical view.  Honestly it is just as bad IMO or worse than all the modern feminists who would accuse all men of taking advantage of women, but for some reason these days it is fashionable to take an extreme viewpoint and not have a balanced view of anything.




"It is pretty tasteless to accuse every woman who speaks about sexual assault of being a liar"

I agree, who does that?  Or do you just like to put words in my mouth.

"That is such an extremely cynical view"

I agree, again who said every woman is a liar?


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Re: some bitches just can't take a joke v. donut shop [Re: qman]
    #21752661 - 06/02/15 12:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

It's just a bit of rhetoric.  I guess my main problem is the idea that women are prone to over-reacting in situations like this, and are at fault in some situations because of this.  I think people have a right to be paranoid and cautious in this world, and that shouldn't be mistaken or confused with someone who is being outright dishonest.  Just like a woman might exaggerate events after the fact, a man could try and manipulate the facts to mitigate things that actually did happen. 

It is easy to make light of things that you might perceive as inoffensive or at least within your rights, but some things to consider are that sexual offenders usually progress, and that many if not most people who are victims in this sense do not expect or want to be victims.  This does sorta create a 1984ish atmosphere of thought-crimes, and situations where it is one person's word against another's, but you've also got to realize that a person cannot help if the feel violated and threatened in a given situation.  It is a sticky area, I'm not saying you can't joke about it but I'm just trying to explain why I feel the way I do.

If a person is convicted with insufficient evidence that is an obvious failing of the justice system.  Also the courts are not always conducive towards fairness.  There is not enough resources devoted to rehabilitation which means that the punishments are serve pretty much only as deterrents, which don't really work, so I believe the "corrections" industry is failing in this sense.  I don't think there is anything wrong with someone reporting to the police when they feel victimized or threatened, definitely I would advise anyone who feels like this to talk to someone about it and I resent that the people that do often take flak for it.


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Re: some bitches just can't take a joke v. donut shop [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #21752997 - 06/02/15 02:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Here's another college fucking over a male over false rape allegations.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2015/05/29/amherst/4t6JtKmaz7vlYSrQk5NDyJ/story.html

Even after evidence to the contrary the college still expelled the male student, now he's suing them.


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Re: some bitches just can't take a joke v. donut shop [Re: qman]
    #21753008 - 06/02/15 02:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Texas sharpshooter tactics don't prove your assertion that "women abuse the legal and the workforce discipline systems multiple times more than men do today."


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Re: some bitches just can't take a joke v. donut shop [Re: qman]
    #21753105 - 06/02/15 02:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Here's another college fucking over a male over false rape allegations.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2015/05/29/amherst/4t6JtKmaz7vlYSrQk5NDyJ/story.html

Even after evidence to the contrary the college still expelled the male student, now he's suing them.




You're not really addressing what I'm saying.  I acknowledged it does happen, but I don't think it justifies any sort of negative attitude against modern-day women any more than the prevalence of rape justifies demonizing men, plus he lost this case, soo,

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In her initial written complaint, Jones said that in the dorm room, the entire encounter was forcible. But in her interview with Kurker and during the hearing, she said the oral sex was initially consensual; then, after Doe boasted about “hooking up” with both her and her roommate, she told him to stop. He refused to do so, she said, according to the hearing transcript.

In his defense, Doe said he was not the kind of person who would do such a thing. But he told the disciplinary board he was so drunk that night he had no memory of the encounter.




Honestly that sounds totally believable to me (the first paragraph) and this is just my personal opinion but I think the type of person who gets so drunk they have no memory is kinda showing they have bad judgement.  How does he even know he is innocent?

That isn't very convincing evidence at all to me.  It's kinda what I'm talking about, pointing out that she had sex with someone else, and reported that she was unsure how to handle it at first.  That is quite common I think and if anything speaks to her believably IMO.


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Re: some bitches just can't take a joke v. donut shop [Re: D.M.T]
    #21753111 - 06/02/15 02:39 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Women abusing restraining orders.
http://restrainingorderabuse.com/what-is-restraining-order-abuse/

"Though lying to obtain a restraining order is a felony offense (perjury), this crime is never prosecuted"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joseph-e-cordell/order-of-protection-and-j_b_974970.html

"85% of protection orders are entered against men, upwards of 90% of those orders are products of tactical divorce considerations"


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Re: some bitches just can't take a joke v. donut shop [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #21753143 - 06/02/15 02:47 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Here's another college fucking over a male over false rape allegations.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2015/05/29/amherst/4t6JtKmaz7vlYSrQk5NDyJ/story.html

Even after evidence to the contrary the college still expelled the male student, now he's suing them.




You're not really addressing what I'm saying.  I acknowledged it does happen, but I don't think it justifies any sort of negative attitude against modern-day women any more than the prevalence of rape justifies demonizing men, plus he lost this case, soo,

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In her initial written complaint, Jones said that in the dorm room, the entire encounter was forcible. But in her interview with Kurker and during the hearing, she said the oral sex was initially consensual; then, after Doe boasted about “hooking up” with both her and her roommate, she told him to stop. He refused to do so, she said, according to the hearing transcript.

In his defense, Doe said he was not the kind of person who would do such a thing. But he told the disciplinary board he was so drunk that night he had no memory of the encounter.




Honestly that sounds totally believable to me (the first paragraph) and this is just my personal opinion but I think the type of person who gets so drunk they have no memory is kinda showing they have bad judgement.  How does he even know he is innocent?

That isn't very convincing evidence at all to me.  It's kinda what I'm talking about, pointing out that she had sex with someone else, and reported that she was unsure how to handle it at first.  That is quite common I think and if anything speaks to her believably IMO.




Did you forget this part? "New evidence- a series of text messages the woman sent...after the alleged rape..."It's pretty obvious I wasn't an innocent bystander."  And, she sent text messages inviting him over that same night to "entertain" her- an invitation that resulted in a second sexual encounter".


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Re: some bitches just can't take a joke v. donut shop [Re: D.M.T]
    #21753153 - 06/02/15 02:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Why does it matter what he proves to you or not? You will just find more justification for your own beliefs. And that's all they are, beliefs. None of us know the entire "truth", especially when it comes to social dictates.

Women USUALLY do get the easier hand in life. Men are always told to go easy on the girls and cut them slack and it is culturally implanted into us. Now that I've grown I do not pass easier judgement on women just because of their sex and try to be as fair as possible.

Both ends of yalls spectrum exist. Until you know each party and have heard all sides you cannot pass any judgement on a single instance without being biased. That is what courts are for. And if a college/university does not accept a court's decision, that is extremely UNJUST. That is a problem. If justice is being perverted by the hands of citizens, that is not morally right. Do not try to minimize this shit just because there are bigger issues in the world.

I could give less fucks about a girl that was sexually assaulted in another state because there is NOTHING I can do to understand her situation or possible help her. If that was my sister or cousin I would do everything in my power to hunt that motherfucker down. It's all relative. Everyone should stop speaking in absolutes.


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Did you stop reading the article moonrock?

In April 2014, however, the expelled student presented the college with new evidence — a series of text messages the woman sent to two other male students immediately after the alleged rape, according to a lawsuit. To one, a dorm counselor, she described the sexual encounter in language that suggested it was consensual and she wrote, “It’s pretty obvi [obvious] I wasn’t an innocent bystander.’’

To the other student, she sent text messages inviting him over later that same night to “entertain” her — an invitation that resulted in a second sexual encounter, according to text messages and an affidavit by the male student. The accuser testified during the disciplinary hearing that she had texted a friend to come over after the alleged attack.

This sounds like the girl who cried rape. Using the forceful dick of the law to get back at someone is dirty.


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Re: some bitches just can't take a joke v. donut shop [Re: MoxyOx]
    #21753173 - 06/02/15 02:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Why does it matter what he proves to you or not? You will just find more justification for your own beliefs. And that's all they are, beliefs. None of us know the entire "truth", especially when it comes to social dictates



It doesn't matter, but when you make claim so bold I would hope you have some sort of statistic to back it up. Unfortunately qman was not able to meet that burden of proof.


I hold beliefs from both sides of the spectrum for what it's worth. Some things women hold the advantage on and others men do.


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Re: some bitches just can't take a joke v. donut shop [Re: qman]
    #21753192 - 06/02/15 02:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah well I think alot of judges are pretty loose with restraining orders because they see it as an easy fix for a situation.  I could criticize alot of aspects of this strategy to prevent domestic abuse, and my personal opinion is that the institution of marriage is to blame for this (which the numbers in those article seem to support) but other than anecdotes and speculation what evidence is there that the majority of these restraining orders are fraudulent? 

It seems to have just made the statements that

A. There are more restraining orders than there used to be (domestic violence used to be considered tolerable behavior, and restraining orders didn't always exist for instances like that, so of course) 

B.  Most restraining orders are issues against men (Do you want to slightly adknowledge potential reasoning behind this that does not rely solely on the supposed poor character of women?)

C.  False allegations happen  (of course they do, I think probably for every crime imaginable.  Unfortunately that is the world we live in, but I would say actual crimes are usually more common than false allegations of crimes)

And of course we are supposed to draw from that men are the real victims when it comes to sexual assault, because feminism already got everything it wanted and now the tables have turned on men and feminists have gained an unfair advantage in the male-dominated legislative/judicial systems.


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Re: some bitches just can't take a joke v. donut shop [Re: qman]
    #21753229 - 06/02/15 03:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Did you forget this part? "New evidence- a series of text messages the woman sent...after the alleged rape..."It's pretty obvious I wasn't an innocent bystander."  And, she sent text messages inviting him over that same night to "entertain" her- an invitation that resulted in a second sexual encounter".




I'm not sure but I think you're confused.  She had sex with another different male student after, who said she seemed ok.  I don't think that means she wasn't raped by the first one.  The first message I don't even really understand, if she was an innocent bystander obviously she couldn't be raped, so we can rule out that she wasn't an innocent bystander.  "Innocent" could mean many things as this is not a court document it is a txt msg. 

The rules at least for many colleges these days are that affirmative consent must be obtained, and can also be retracted, which if is what happened he is liable for his actions, whether he remembers them or not.  To me this has always kind of been the obvious social contract which provides the foundation for laws protecting people, even though when taken to a logical extreme it seems kinda ridiculous.  I'm sorry but a lack of self control does not excuse criminal behavior.


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Re: some bitches just can't take a joke v. donut shop [Re: moonrockmushy] * 1
    #21753233 - 06/02/15 03:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

that was fast.

less than 2 pages and it's already a "feminism is destroying america vs shut the fuck up misogynist" argument.

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Re: some bitches just can't take a joke v. donut shop [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
    #21753240 - 06/02/15 03:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Restraining orders are a joke. If someone wants to harm you they're going to do it restraining order or not. It also depends where you live on how easy a restraining order is given. In Kentucky as this case (and some others) demonstrated, it isn't really that easy to get one.

http://www.wlwt.com/news/local-news/news-northern-kentucky/could-protection-order-have-prevented-ft-thomas-shooting/21406818


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    #21753242 - 06/02/15 03:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

:smirk: sorry I didn't mean to ruin this amazing story for you, feel free to discuss it at length


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    #21753245 - 06/02/15 03:14 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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that was fast.

less than 2 pages and it's already a "feminism is destroying america vs shut the fuck up misogynist" argument.

impressive.



Whenever females are mentioned that's how it will go. The men of the Shroomery seem to have deep underlying issues with females. It's unfortunate really.


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    #21753264 - 06/02/15 03:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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:smirk: sorry I didn't mean to ruin this amazing story for you, feel free to discuss it at length



Can't we go back to making jokes about girls not thinking we're funny and buying more donuts than they really need?

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that was fast.

less than 2 pages and it's already a "feminism is destroying america vs shut the fuck up misogynist" argument.

impressive.



Whenever females are mentioned that's how it will go. The men of the Shroomery seem to have deep underlying issues with females. It's unfortunate really.




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Re: some bitches just can't take a joke v. donut shop [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
    #21753341 - 06/02/15 03:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I honestly consider myself pretty moderate, I'm really only a feminist by comparison.  I didn't tell anyone to shut up, and I appreciate that qman is civil and seriously doubt that he mistreats women in any way. 

I like to debate things like this, which is why I do it.  I don't think that this thread is a gender issue, which kind of was part of my original point, so if nobody wants me to elaborate more on my ideas I'll cut it here.


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Re: some bitches just can't take a joke v. donut shop [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #21753360 - 06/02/15 03:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I didn't mean to paint the discussion that way either I suppose.

to be really honest, I came back from lunch a little drunk, skimmed over the posts very lightly, and saw that another "debate" about that all-too-common subject was going on; and tried to capitalize with a joke. :shrug:

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    #21753366 - 06/02/15 03:43 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

It's all right.  I can definitely be a stick in the mud sometimes, you're not entirely wrong.


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    #21753416 - 06/02/15 03:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: some bitches just can't take a joke v. donut shop [Re: FriedEgg]
    #21753528 - 06/02/15 04:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Some woman just cant take an implied insult/public embrassment :shrug:


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