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BurberrySpores
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Re: Cron's KSSS. A year later. --.'^'--. UPDATE 6/5 [Re: slapphappypill]
#21752372 - 06/02/15 11:43 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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here I'll break down everything that I did
I first started taking the culture back to more transfers, but still didn't get the fact that I needed a two-dimensional plane of myc
also my spawsspawn ratio is low I figured out so now I'm using 6 full qts
also I stepped up my sterilization time for my wild bird seed I now do 120 minutes
I bleach bomb my room. I washed every single surface with bleach I pulled out every single piece of cloth and sterilized in my washer and then I shampoo my carpets
also I started adding black cow manure to bulk substrate for beneficial microbes
I do a proper pasteurization tech I've done in the oven like eat you alive does and I've also done Franks proper pasteurization in jars
I think one of the big issues I was having with the contaminant being in multiple cultures... was my lab jacket sat across in the room from where the fan was blowing these contaminated tubs... and I didn't wash that jacket for like 6 months. it was about this time that I did the bleach bomb in my room
I did a control master after sterilization of a quart jar. Let sit on shelf for 3 weeks. No contam
I took sterilized grains to agar, just to make sure they were actually sterilized
I did a control of just plain coir no spawn (which kinda started growing something)
I sent copies of my culture to other mycologists to see if they were having the same issues
also now when I spawn, I don't open my pasteurized sub up to open air without spraying Lysol.
the jacket I use for still air box work, I wash that immediately before I do any work
also I did control work in still air box .. opening the agar dishes up and sterilizing my scalpel, putting on agar without any spores or anything ...just to see if what would happen... and all that was clean too
like I said it could have been one of them of the million reasons
also I think that there this is the reason why there is a learning curve with mushrooms. ..
They are sentient beings and I think that they want to see if you're really bout that life...
if you're really going to keep trying to make it work
Edited by BurberrySpores (06/05/15 05:53 PM)
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BurberrySpores
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slapphappypill said: I used bleach with my issue, didn't solve the problem and waisted a good 25 more bricks of coir. The mold spray i'm talking about works wonders when nothing else will. I know from experience ;-)
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21736430
Also, a note on bleach. This was an issue too.
I was making up my bleach bottles and letting them sit until I needed them again. But little did I know, that bleach will break down after 24 hours. It's why hospitals and such mix up their bleach when they use and dump when they are done.
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slapphappypill
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sounds like your spawn is clean then? But you get issues after pasturizing... I'd honestly suggest to try damion's 50/50 technique with coir. Get a brick and 3ish qts of verm in the bottom of a 5 gallon bucket (add some gypsum), pour 1 gallon of boiling water into the bucket over the brick and vem and cover with the lid tightly overnight. Then mix it all into your mono.
I've only properly pasturized bulk substrate once with some really good aged horse poo... Worked well and got monster fruits, but it was a lot more work, and I see more constant 100% results with damion's 50/50 tech
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BurberrySpores
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Dude if my spawn isn't clean, I'll literally put a gun in my mouth.
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slapphappypill
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yeah, try the spray I talked about... soak your tubs in it overnight and you'll know there's no contams in your tub for sure!
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BurberrySpores
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slapphappypill said: yeah, try the spray I talked about... soak your tubs in it overnight and you'll know there's no contams in your tub for sure!
Good lookin out man! Thanks
Now I just wait lol
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slapphappypill
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I hear that, I used it and had to wait a 2 weeks before I know it worked. Now i'm back to 100% ;-)
Sooooo many mono's waisted and so much work and time spent doing it waisted for me! so eah, glad to be of help so others don't have to suffer as I did
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BurberrySpores said:
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insanemike said: How much time do you spend on mixing and leveling the substrate? Is it important or not important to focus on a little more finer detail?
I had a really big ego when I jumped back in this and I was rewarded with all the contamination in the world
so now I would say definitely afford attention to detail
Remeber the world is made up of atoms...one of the smallest particles of matter
so I would say yeah, attentiom to small details is key
I do flatten out my the substrate I don't take a whole lot of time doing it but I make sure its right
QFT
I tossed 7-8 out of 10 tubs for the first 2-3 months I started monos due to impatience and such 
Luckily supplies are cheap 
Good luck with your clone
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BurberrySpores
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Re: Cron's KSSS. A year later. [Re: Dhearic]
#21752615 - 06/02/15 12:36 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thanks man! I have really been humbled by the whole experience lol.
Think I got it finally
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Ghatti
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Can I see a msds or ingredient list on that spray you're on about? What does it have in it?
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BurberrySpores
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Re: Cron's KSSS. A year later. [Re: Ghatti]
#21753586 - 06/02/15 04:39 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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It's just a mold/mildew spray
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Ghatti
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Lol what's the active ingredient?
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Re: Cron's KSSS. A year later. [Re: Ghatti]
#21753621 - 06/02/15 04:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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  It doesn't matter what i think of you...all that matters is clean spawn I'm tired do me a favor
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BurberrySpores
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Re: Cron's KSSS. A year later. [Re: cronicr]
#21766931 - 06/05/15 05:47 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Tub 1 day 8
updated OP with more pics
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BurberrySpores
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*---->>> EDIT* Sorry for the double post. meant to edit the above post.
this is the first tub that went into fruiting.
We'll be fine.
**NOTE. my tub dried out on top cuz of my bitch ass AC unit. so I got a shit ton of side pins before I realized what was happening and added wax paper to the top of my substrate.
So, that's why this pinset is so uneven. My other tubs pinset is coming in even.
Full tub

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Edited by BurberrySpores (06/05/15 05:52 PM)
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 nice! i'm hoping to have some pins popping pretty soon here i'll be casing soem subs tommorow
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