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Resistance is futile
#21751431 - 06/02/15 04:12 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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There is a lot of conflict in the world at the moment. You have the old way, the old regime that has been in control for a very long time now. This has lead to wars, poverty, an imbalance of power, destruction of nature and the environment and so much pain for our planet. Over recent years a lot of people have started waking up to the fact that the old regime causes much suffering. There have been uprisings, governments over thrown, terrorism, protests that are violent and peaceful. Whilst it might seem good (and in a way, it is!) that people are starting to resist the corruption and control that has been forced upon them for so long, ultimately, resistance just causes more conflict.
It's long been observed by humans that the macrocosm is reflected in the microcosm, and vice versa. That basically means that the same patterns exist in all levels of the cosmos. Newton's Third Law Of Motion says that every action has an equal and opposite reaction. When Newton wrote this law, it was applied to force in the physical world. But really it can be applied to anything.
As people begin to resist the old regime, the old regime begins to push back even harder. The more you resist, the more force is applied by the other side. This continues, with the opposing forces growing in strength, until eventually, SNAP. You end up with physical destruction, often on both sides, with one side being more damaged than the other, but they are both damaged. Resistance ultimately does more harm than good.
So what's the solution then? I feel, that the solution is creation, not resistance. When I was younger, I used go on protests, some of them direct action. In particular I went on a couple over the use of fossil fuels. Did it do much good? Nope, just got chased around a few fields by the police. Now, instead of protesting, I live in my camper van with a solar panel attached to the roof. I still recognise there is a problem, but instead of resisting the problem, I'm creating a new paradigm.
So for pretty much any situation, the solution is this:
Problem --> Awareness of problem --> Acceptance of problem --> Creation of new paradigm
“You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.” ― R. Buckminster Fuller
However, when we look on a global scale, the destruction, the war, the conflicts, the poverty etc, is this the real problem? These are just the outward manifestation of problems which actually exist within the minds and hearts of humanity. It is like a tree that is sick. You can't help the tree by just treating the branches, you have to tackle the issue at the roots. And the root of the problem is our minds, the level of human consciousness. And as much as we might like to lay the blame on certain people in power that have caused the most destruction on our planet, a little bit of contemplation on self says that we all have a bit of that darkness inside of us to differing degrees. So it is ourselves and our inner world that we must try and change, not the outer world.
And how do we do that?
Problem --> Awareness of problem --> Acceptance of problem --> Creation of new paradigm
So the solution must first begin by increasing awareness of ourselves.
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Re: Resistance is futile [Re: PocketLady]
#21751451 - 06/02/15 04:37 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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very well said
-------------------- its that bitter-sweet-sour, electric-smooth-twang. everything you ever have, are. or will feel along with every emotion, joy, hate, love, fear or aspiration burning down your nerves and into the fabric of your place in this existence at ten thousand degrees above and below zero will you find yourself wondering if you've been dead or alive this whole time. being born over and over only to die over and over hoping the wheel stops in the same place it started when you spun it, and when it finally does and you can step back and take a nice deep breath you realize how beautiful life is, remember, wake up to the most beautiful day of your life every single day, its just the way.
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Re: Resistance is futile [Re: PocketLady]
#21751469 - 06/02/15 05:03 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I like it
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Re: Resistance is futile [Re: PocketLady]
#21751608 - 06/02/15 07:03 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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The answer would have been for people to have woken up 100 years ago when The Fed took over our central bank, for one example. Instead, ever since we have had all measure of ups and downs, wars, and our currency has lost 95% of its purchasing power. Yet, most still think that The Fed can "get us out" of this jam they keep putting us in! Really? They ARE the problem.
So, giving the big banks 100+ years of control, how can we push back now? What is the solution to a debt problem when the "conventional???? wisdom is now to print more money????
Problem. Reaction. Solution. The PTB create the problem, wait for the reaction to get really bad, then feed us a lousy solution like invading Iraq after 9/11, for example.
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i think the solution looks like this.
everything we need is on this earth, everyone who needs it is on this earth. not everyone has what they need. if we take money out of the equation, maybe everybody would have what they need.
-------------------- its that bitter-sweet-sour, electric-smooth-twang. everything you ever have, are. or will feel along with every emotion, joy, hate, love, fear or aspiration burning down your nerves and into the fabric of your place in this existence at ten thousand degrees above and below zero will you find yourself wondering if you've been dead or alive this whole time. being born over and over only to die over and over hoping the wheel stops in the same place it started when you spun it, and when it finally does and you can step back and take a nice deep breath you realize how beautiful life is, remember, wake up to the most beautiful day of your life every single day, its just the way.
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As I was trying to get across in the OP, the domination of the big banks might seem like the root of the problem, but it isn't. What caused the big banks to dominate in the first place? People who desire to have as much power and wealth as they can. Now that desire - whether it's the desire to have enough money to buy a nice house, or the desire for world domination - exists in all of us on some level. It's a distorted desire to be happy, that we need things into order to be happy. The problem can only be solved within ourselves, and a person can only change themselves, not another person. So that is where the transformation must occur.
Whilst the distorted ego dominates in a number of people, there will always be those who try to take control. As you say about problem - reaction - solution, whatever is done on a physical level, any action that is taken, an uprising, revolution, whatever, it will fail, because whilst there are people who desire power, there are people who will take advantage of that situation and use it as a means to tighten their grip even further.
If enough people transform themselves, the world will naturally follow suit.
Change has to come from within.
“You cannot solve a problem from the same consciousness that created it. You must learn to see the world anew.” Einstein
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Re: Resistance is futile [Re: PocketLady]
#21751734 - 06/02/15 08:15 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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ohh my god, alright i get it. you just said it earlier. but this is how i got it, fucked up maybe but i understand now.
sometimes when i trip i think im in this fantasy land in my head, but thats my life, is im stuck in my head in a hospital or maybe even dead and none of this is real. like everyhting around me is just a projection of myself(or brain) in differing forms, i am everything, cause they are all me. if i see something i dont like, i relate it to myself and think about how i can change that about me. so in that headspace im thinking all these power hungry people you speak of, taking advantage of the situation are only myself trying to do that, so if i make the change(as you said) within myself, i will slowly see the rest change, because i made that change in myself, evrything around me being a reflection or projection of myself. if that makes any sense.
-------------------- its that bitter-sweet-sour, electric-smooth-twang. everything you ever have, are. or will feel along with every emotion, joy, hate, love, fear or aspiration burning down your nerves and into the fabric of your place in this existence at ten thousand degrees above and below zero will you find yourself wondering if you've been dead or alive this whole time. being born over and over only to die over and over hoping the wheel stops in the same place it started when you spun it, and when it finally does and you can step back and take a nice deep breath you realize how beautiful life is, remember, wake up to the most beautiful day of your life every single day, its just the way.
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Yes that makes total sense whitelights Every experience we have is here to teach us something, and the experiences we have depend on the lessons we need to learn. Once we have learnt the lesson, we no longer need to have that experience and it will fade away. It's kinda weird because you can think about it on an individual level (this is MY projection which I am creating) or you can think about it on a collective level (this is humanities projection which we are collectively creating). I think both are equally valid.
-------------------- Love is from the infinite, and will remain until eternity. The seeker of love escapes the chains of birth and death. Tomorrow, when resurrection comes, The heart that is not in love will fail the test. ~ Rumi The day we start giving Love instead of seeking Love, we will have re-written our whole destiny. ~ Swami Chinmayanada Saraswatir
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Re: Resistance is futile [Re: PocketLady]
#21751777 - 06/02/15 08:37 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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i also like what you have to say about my projection and humanities projection. because i never thought of it like that, thinking of that when i think im dead or in the crazy house just may put a different light on things.
-------------------- its that bitter-sweet-sour, electric-smooth-twang. everything you ever have, are. or will feel along with every emotion, joy, hate, love, fear or aspiration burning down your nerves and into the fabric of your place in this existence at ten thousand degrees above and below zero will you find yourself wondering if you've been dead or alive this whole time. being born over and over only to die over and over hoping the wheel stops in the same place it started when you spun it, and when it finally does and you can step back and take a nice deep breath you realize how beautiful life is, remember, wake up to the most beautiful day of your life every single day, its just the way.
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As I was trying to get across in the OP, the domination of the big banks might seem like the root of the problem, but it isn't.
Indeed, there is no problem.


as a great composer once said, there are no problems, only solutions.
what I mean by there is no problems is that all problems are illusory -- when the mind, which upholds the universe, is transformed, the universe is transformed.
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Re: Resistance is futile [Re: PocketLady]
#21752701 - 06/02/15 12:57 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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PocketLady said: As I was trying to get across in the OP, the domination of the big banks might seem like the root of the problem, but it isn't. What caused the big banks to dominate in the first place? People who desire to have as much power and wealth as they can. Now that desire - whether it's the desire to have enough money to buy a nice house, or the desire for world domination - exists in all of us on some level. It's a distorted desire to be happy, that we need things into order to be happy. The problem can only be solved within ourselves, and a person can only change themselves, not another person. So that is where the transformation must occur.
Whilst the distorted ego dominates in a number of people, there will always be those who try to take control. As you say about problem - reaction - solution, whatever is done on a physical level, any action that is taken, an uprising, revolution, whatever, it will fail, because whilst there are people who desire power, there are people who will take advantage of that situation and use it as a means to tighten their grip even further.
If enough people transform themselves, the world will naturally follow suit.
Change has to come from within.
“You cannot solve a problem from the same consciousness that created it. You must learn to see the world anew.” Einstein
"If pigs could fly, they would have wings."
Instead, they have not only almost all the money, but have become the facilitators of "credit" to an extreme. The talk is that cash is only important to criminals, so we need a cashless society. 25% of sheeple in Australia would have "some interest" in getting the implant to make paying easy and prevent fraud.
My goal at this point is to be prepared while simplifying and consolidating. Cash (the USD) is going to be "king" for a brief period in the next 90 days. After that, you don't want to be holding it or any other fiat currency.
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I'm curious about what you mean by "cash will be king sometime in the next 90 days" not sure if you're referring to something in particular or if it was strictly rhetorical.
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Re: Resistance is futile [Re: PocketLady]
#21753924 - 06/02/15 05:48 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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nice post PocketLady - I agree with it very much 
I've found that the greatest change comes from living as the solution rather than fighting the problems like you mentioned the mindstate of fighting and opposing an enemy i think can further spread discord as opposed to putting an end to it. it's like the quote ascribed to buddha of roughly "anger doesn't end anger, only love ends anger" or einstein's "you can't fix a problem with the same level of consciousness that created it".
after all, often in situations of conflict both sides see themselves as right and the other as the enemy that they need to fix. so it's possible that even with good intentions we could inadvertently be causing harm when we 'fight for a cause'. whereas living as the solution to all problems, living as love, practicing universal forgiveness, tolerance, peace-consciousness etc - radiating out positive intentions to all will almost always be a positive thing of course, some situations are tricky and require skillful means, but overall bringing the end goal to the present seems to be more effective than fighting the apparent obstacles to that end goal. and as you said, so often what really needs to change is us ourselves internally - that the external conflicts are manifestations of our own inner turmoil
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Re: Resistance is futile [Re: PocketLady]
#21754131 - 06/02/15 06:25 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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dear pocket lady,
you make some interesting points, but there are higher understandings as well. I do value your points very much, but couching it in terminology of saying, resistance is futile, I would say, can lead to some misunderstanding;
I would prefer to say active and passive resistance to war in all its forms. Active, in terms of spreading light throughout the world, and passive, in terms of passive resistance as it has always been -- if you found yourself working in a munitions factory or something -- spread encouraging things there. Lay down in front of tanks.
If someone is about to do wrong; stand between them and the person they are trying to hurt.
Things like this.
Stand up and fight, O Arjuna.
The best way of action is often very subtle, it often even may appear like non-action -- in many cases it even is non-action. The universe is basically nearly infinitely complex; yet we are also, and indeed its one pattern, one flux.
Resistance can be done by spreading good ideas, sharing with light and love the positive one has found -- the joy and light and strength and hope -- shine like a beacon of hope, for all to see, shine like a quasar of hope.
Don't mind that one candle is not enough to light the entire darkness, as Amma says, simply light your candle and step forward.
To share light and strength wherever possible -- to offer your shoulder, your strength when someone needs you -- This is resistance to war.
To smile to someone who is having a bad day, in such a way to brighten their life for that moment --
This is resistance to war.
And it is not something to worry about that things go back and forth sometimes --
the whole war is a single machine, basically and it is one that can be turned off. This is I would say one of the highest things.
Everything you have said is quite valid; I would just say there's a little deeper vision available.
Working for peace in a peaceful way is the natural way to attain it -- people who have lived through war and become leaders in the world, generally tend to agree on the best process and path to peace --
Once we understand those we think of as "other," once we see they are human, have the same suffering and joys --
this is probably the most effective way of resolving conflict.
There are varying forces - right? Various energies -- what is the correct way to attain lasting peace -- is a fascinating question. The most important one; and things such as sports and other things can be a real distraction.
I agree with many things you say such as change starts from within - and I completely agree that a transformation of one's consciousness, is the beginning step, where all positive change occurs, but I disagree about saying do not resist.
Do so, but do so in the highest, most brilliant, most beautiful, most effective fashion possible. Do so with the full power of your Genius -- Which every human has; and indeed, one of the most fascinating things I have ever discovered is this very fact. . .
Every human has a Genius and. . . no words can describe it -- throw out all previous thoughts of intelligence; anyone can reach the highest level of love, understanding and beauty, as we all have it within us; it's more true than anything I could ever say or have said.
Check out Leaflets of the White Rose if you're interested on some theory of how to spread peace in a time of war - I do feel we are equally in such a time right now, and it very much is possible to end this war --
It depends on calm, fearlessness, and solidity, ni the words of Thay, 'I am inviting you to go deeper, to be solid, calm, and without fear; for the world needs people like this.'
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Stand with the solidity of one who is fully realized, with the authority to say "The bucks stops here," and be the kind of person who can calm the waters. Do this and you will be a conduit for peace in the world beyond anything that has ever been imagined.
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To express it more simply: Active and passive resistance to war is absolutely necessary and essential, and will be carried through effectively when enough minds turn to the light.
I'm not talking about fighting fire with fire; I'm talking about pouring water on a fire.
In other words, the correct methods of working for peace are a whole path on which I've written many hundreds of pages, after having studied it my whole life;
Anyway, one of the important things is what energy we have is what energy we share; as I feel you are very aware 
In other words, it is necessary to work for peace through peaceful means, otherwise it is not the desired result; for instance, one's life as a whole is the message one creates, and so forth.
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Re: Resistance is futile [Re: PocketLady]
#21755783 - 06/03/15 01:18 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think you admirable understanding of our historic, human dynamic. The issue I see with this is that if it isn't too late already, it will be soon.
Us living in the more developed countries are in a time where those in power have so much influence and abilities that are constantly strengthening, as well as new ones being developed, that the creation of a new paradigm is practically impossible. Their technology, expertise, intelligence (both innate and operationally), are getting far beyond what we are capable of escaping. Even if you were to fully engage the small section of a population that is able to recognize their status as subjects, if it is something which could potentially disrupt the status quo how long do you think it will be before a number of various tactics are implemented to neutralize the threat?
Those in power have us under practically ubiquitous surveillance. Organization and dissemination are then largely compromised. They have a large playbook with tried and true experience for handling dissent. If your lucky, you get labeled an extremist or terrorist, or they concoct some false narrative to discredit you. Sure, we see dissent, its happening in some cities lately with the police protests, but I think those are allowed to give a false sense of meaning to people because they aren't a threat to the top power structure.
And we are entering a time where any thought of a different paradigm will be impossible, literally! Scientists are marching toward the ability to read peoples thoughts and change their memories, do you think for one second the powers that be won't utilizing this? I wouldn't be surprised if they haven't already in some capacity.
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you make some interesting points, but there are higher understandings as well
Once in a lifetime, I agree with a lot of what you have said in your posts, but I don't think this is about having a higher understanding. I think we have a few differences in the definition of the world "resistance", that's all 
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Resistance can be done by spreading good ideas, sharing with light and love the positive one has found -- the joy and light and strength and hope -- shine like a beacon of hope, for all to see, shine like a quasar of hope.
I wouldn't call the things you mention in the quote above "resistance". Resistance to me is trying to fight (or deny) the problem in some way. As Deff said with his Einstein quote "You can't solve a problem from the same consciousness that created it." In order to overcome injustice in the world we must rise above it and let it pass underneath us.
I was having a discussion with a friend of mine about this, and he mentioned various people throughout history who had protested/resisted and made a positive impact on the world. One of the people he mentioned was Buddha. But the thing is, Buddha did not resist (even passively) injustice and suffering. By letting go of his attachment to everything in the physical world, he refused to (mentally and emotionally) engage with it, thereby removing it's power and making it completely irrelevant. There is a subtle difference here between resistance and non-engagement.
It's a case of non-compliance vs non-engagement. Passive resistance suggests some kind of non-compliance, because a person doesn't like something in the world and wants to change it. This suggests attachment to that thing. "This thing exists, and I don't really like it. I want to change it or stop it." But non-engagement on a mental level is different. You are saying "Ok, this thing exists, but it doesn't have to affect my happiness. Now I can go and create how my heart says things should be, with love and compassion." IMHO here is no resistance at all in non-engagement.
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Re: Resistance is futile [Re: PocketLady]
#21757952 - 06/03/15 04:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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it's just words.
it's meaningless what words we use, what is important is what is behind them, the intention the only importnat thing is understanding each other, and communicating understanding trust and intention, and how those work. i say a higher understanding, but this is also partly meaningless.
everything means something only relatively. Beyond the relative exists the absolute, or the spirit, there really is two worlds; and then there's one. since communication is the main goal, primary emphasis on definitions of words is not as important as --
a, gradual understanding of personalities, and the rest. nothing in the universe exists for anyone unless that anyone is a subject. also, there are infinite revelations, infinite levels of growth,
and tho it sounds or seems like this rolls of my tongue, it is yet the most fascinating aspect of existence to me, and it's the one i've continued to endeavor to understand as much as possible.. it's beautiful and can be expressed an innumerable number of ways. the simplest that i am on right now is, 'love is infinite.' I am sure you would agree... it may sounds strange to say that often, i have known. . . you wouldn't understand.  or if you would understand - then wonderful! God-realization is being in the state where you are ALWAYS at the front of things. .
you are always with God, and with God is innumerable saints and angels, and they are all of a similar nature, and a similar inclination and have similar feelings of life -- They Worship God with all their heart, Because God is the Source of Being and Love; and this can be seen impersonally, or it can be seen personally.
It is not important where we are at in regards to each other, what always matters is where we are at in regards to God, and how close we are to hIm. I say it like that because it's so sill, there's Mother and Father and they are one. I'm sorry - I know how to write incredibly beautiful poetry or essays, but I don't know how to end a post. . . I could write 100, 100,000, or however many pages, and there is nothing higher than what I've said here.
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it's meaningless what words we use, what is important is what is behind them, the intention
I couldn't agree more.
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