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MikeBearPig
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Bored - Pickle jar
#21750434 - 06/01/15 08:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I had this ugly pickle jar I was keeping around for some unknown reason..
Filled that bitch up with some WBS and its still in the pressure cooker.
2 hr 30 min PC time. I will do the inoculation tomorrow morning. Cheers to being bored
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LocN9ne
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Why so long in the PC? Just curious. ..
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MikeBearPig
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Re: Bored - Pickle jar [Re: LocN9ne]
#21750569 - 06/01/15 09:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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LocN9ne said: Why so long in the PC? Just curious. ..
I figured that, to heat the center of a regular quart jar to the proper temp takes 90 min, I should put it in for way longer since its over 3x as thick.
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RyeJar
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Yeah maybe 3 to 3.5 hours is what you would probably want shoot for for that much spawn.
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MikeBearPig
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Re: Bored - Pickle jar [Re: RyeJar]
#21750629 - 06/01/15 09:50 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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RyeJar said: Yeah maybe 3 to 3.5 hours is what you would probably want shoot for for that much spawn.
I am testing what I have now before I hike up the times.
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I see. We are opposite then. I overboard everything and start to slack off until I see performance issues.
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MikeBearPig
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Re: Bored - Pickle jar [Re: RyeJar]
#21750650 - 06/01/15 09:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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RyeJar said: I see. We are opposite then. I overboard everything and start to slack off until I see performance issues.
Yep. I prefer to do the minimal amount of work and get canopies. I know I am lazy when it comes to this hobby.. I just have not found a reason to not be.
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RyeJar
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My computer science professor always taught us to work smart and lazy haha. Guess it never stuck outside of coding.
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MikeBearPig
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Re: Bored - Pickle jar [Re: RyeJar]
#21750671 - 06/01/15 10:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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RyeJar said: My computer science professor always taught us to work smart and lazy haha. Guess it never stuck outside of coding.
I use plastic caps with micro pour tape
Inoculate with LC's made with aluminium foil lids, all multispore
I sterilize my coir because getting it to 170f seems too much of a task
I use coir..
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NumeroEno
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What is that, a gallon? If you can make the lid work well they would be great receiving jars for g2g.
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MikeBearPig
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Re: Bored - Pickle jar [Re: NumeroEno]
#21750744 - 06/01/15 10:16 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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NumeroEno said: What is that, a gallon? If you can make the lid work well they would be great receiving jars for g2g.
I don't do g2g, that would imply that I would actually do some SAB work.
I just wanna inoculate it and grow it out lol
Yes, I think it is a gallon, its the biggest jar they have.
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Ghatti
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If you start from spore gallon jars have a tendency to stall.
Best to use lc,g2g, or slurry/LI
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Haha. I almost pulled my hair out with this hobby dealing with spores for years. I always said it's easiest so K.I.S.S.!!!
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NumeroEno said: What is that, a gallon? If you can make the lid work well they would be great receiving jars for g2g.
I don't do g2g, that would imply that I would actually do some SAB work.
I just wanna inoculate it and grow it out lol
G2g is super easy though. There is a reason it has been standard operating procedure for decades now. Try it out. You will be surprised with the ease and super quick clonization times I bet.
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MikeBearPig
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Re: Bored - Pickle jar [Re: Ghatti]
#21750958 - 06/01/15 11:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ghatti said: If you start from spore gallon jars have a tendency to stall.
Best to use lc,g2g, or slurry/LI
I have an LC made for it
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MikeBearPig
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This is from 2 days ago, its pretty far along now. I think I am chalking this one up to a success.
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MikeBearPig
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Ok, I took new pictures.. next to some MS spawn I have for size comparison
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NumeroEno
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Damn dude. Very nice. I'm gonna knock up some half gallon jars with LC tomorrow.
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Re: Bored - Pickle jar [Re: NumeroEno]
#21772094 - 06/06/15 09:34 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I soaked these for an extra 2 hours.. Getting ready for the long haul.
I used half gallon jars unknowingly for 7 months. I always wondered why my yields were so high.
I have a nice mix of quart and half gallon now though. I use 7 half gallons for my PE tubs ^_^
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NumeroEno
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Hell yeah. I've got a bunch of wide mouth quarts and half gallons, but I'm gonna start using regular mouth quarts so I can make grain slurries. I think I've finally gotten the hang of LC and that's a real game changer for me. I've been doing it the old fashioned way, inoculating quarts with agar wedges and doing g2g, but fuck. LC straight into the half gallons seems so much easier. Plus, at the pace the LC is moving, it's probably faster than waiting for an agar wedge to colonize a quart.
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Re: Bored - Pickle jar [Re: NumeroEno]
#21772151 - 06/06/15 09:47 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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NumeroEno said: Hell yeah. I've got a bunch of wide mouth quarts and half gallons, but I'm gonna start using regular mouth quarts so I can make grain slurries. I think I've finally gotten the hang of LC and that's a real game changer for me. I've been doing it the old fashioned way, inoculating quarts with agar wedges and doing g2g, but fuck. LC straight into the half gallons seems so much easier. Plus, at the pace the LC is moving, it's probably faster than waiting for an agar wedge to colonize a quart.
I have got into too many fights on this forum about people saying "You need agar to get far", and other quotes like that.. I have got by on my LC method just fine with minimal contamination's. Only time I fucked up was when I tried to clone in my SAB. Other wise I have lost like 1 out of the last 90 jars due to random factors.
I just make 10 LC's with spores and watch them, pick the best looking and go. Ain't no magic here
Edit : I will say though, this fucking KSSS Syringe I got produces the most vigorous and white mycelium I have ever had.
Edited by MikeBearPig (06/06/15 09:47 PM)
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Just wait until you use a bad lc and ALL your shit goes in the trash lol.
Then you will go agar to lc from then on
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Re: Bored - Pickle jar [Re: maddchef]
#21772336 - 06/06/15 10:56 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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maddchef said: Just wait until you use a bad lc and ALL your shit goes in the trash lol.
Then you will go agar to lc from then on
Nope.. I will just admit that I fucked up and redo it better.
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Better = agar to lc lol
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Re: Bored - Pickle jar [Re: maddchef]
#21772363 - 06/06/15 11:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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maddchef said: Better = agar to lc lol
Everybody keeps saying that.. Yet they never post canopies.
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Canopies don't come from ms spore, agar, lc, or LI just magically lol.
Allz I am saying is that its pretty easy to make a nasty lc with spores. Agar would only take a few days longer the very first time and ensures a clean lc.
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Re: Bored - Pickle jar [Re: maddchef]
#21772488 - 06/06/15 11:43 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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maddchef said: Canopies don't come from ms spore, agar, lc, or LI just magically lol.
Allz I am saying is that its pretty easy to make a nasty lc with spores. Agar would only take a few days longer the very first time and ensures a clean lc.
It doesn't ensure a clean lc. Only your sterile procedure can and still there are unforseens. But I do agree with you. Even if your not into agar a simple no pour plate with a ship lid will at least test the lc. I've had so many fuck ups from dirty LC's. Agar to grain to grain to grain all the way. 30 days for 100 jars of spawn fully colonized isn't anything to shrug about. That's 8 lbs of dry fruits worth of spawn from decent genetics and takes very little effort. Put agar into jar. Pour jar into other jars. Pour jars into other jars. Spawn.
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Re: Bored - Pickle jar [Re: maddchef]
#21772985 - 06/07/15 06:36 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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maddchef said: Canopies don't come from ms spore, agar, lc, or LI just magically lol.
Allz I am saying is that its pretty easy to make a nasty lc with spores. Agar would only take a few days longer the very first time and ensures a clean lc.
Exactly... good info.
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love experiments like this! keep us updated!
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MikeBearPig
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Re: Bored - Pickle jar [Re: Element1]
#21802911 - 06/13/15 03:56 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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She is coming along nicely! Not all the sides look as good as this one, but there is no contamination that I see so far.
Cheers guys!
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MikeBearPig
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Approaching full colonization in a few days. Unfortunately it is going to have to go to the back and sit for a bit.. I am out of space and tubs to experiment with right now.
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NumeroEno
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So when did you inoculate it? I inoculated a bunch of half gallons with LC on the 15th. I'm hoping for full colonization at the 7 day mark.
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Re: Bored - Pickle jar [Re: NumeroEno]
#21824358 - 06/18/15 04:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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NumeroEno said: So when did you inoculate it? I inoculated a bunch of half gallons with LC on the 15th. I'm hoping for full colonization at the 7 day mark.
This is about 13-14 days old now.
7 days seems like a reachable goal. I think I am going to invest in a 50ML syringe so I can get 4-5 days colonization while remaining lazy. I only use 1cc of LC per half gallon or quart.
Edited by MikeBearPig (06/18/15 04:22 PM)
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NumeroEno
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I didn't measure exactly how much I inoculated my half gallons with, but I was using a 60cc syringe of very thick LC and I was pretty liberal with it. I inoculated them on the 15th and saw lots of nice recovery this morning so I gave them a shake. I bet you can get that gallon to colonize in close to a week with enough inoculation points.
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