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Re: Has anyone tried growkits? [Re: new2doinstuff]
    #21757974 - 06/03/15 04:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

you inoculate spawn with agar. skipping the whole added step of making the LC then using the LC. LC, LI, agar and spores are all inoculates. When you understand why you're making another inoculant again with a different inoculant then make it. LC can be a quick thing if you're doing hundreds of jars it's easier than agar wedges into each jar no doubt. if you're doing 12-24 jars a week even agar is far quicker than LC. you could make a pipeline but that's a lot of extra work for no real gain, you can pipeline your jars too rather than pipeline another inoculant step.


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Re: Has anyone tried growkits? [Re: new2doinstuff]
    #21757976 - 06/03/15 04:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Agar to grain to poo

You wont keep it at 85,  65 to 75 degrees is perfect

Look on the sponsor page, I found one that " WORKS" great


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Re: Has anyone tried growkits? [Re: mush madness]
    #21757980 - 06/03/15 04:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Has anyone tried growkits? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #21758081 - 06/03/15 04:40 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Hmmmmmm.. ... ok. So the only other things I need then are Spores, Hay, light karo and Hpoo.


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Re: Has anyone tried growkits? [Re: new2doinstuff]
    #21758118 - 06/03/15 04:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Idk what agar to grain to poo means if poo is my substrate and i go directly from agar to poo, thisvis rather contradictory


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Re: Has anyone tried growkits? [Re: new2doinstuff]
    #21758151 - 06/03/15 05:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

"Poo" is your bulk substrate.  Grain is your bulk spawn.  You spawn the agar to the grains, wait for them to colonize, then spawn that to the sub.


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Re: Has anyone tried growkits? [Re: new2doinstuff]
    #21758153 - 06/03/15 05:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

at some point you have to help your self. it's showing that you're not actually reading the TEKs but probably looking at the pictures. what tek do you see on here that shows agar to poo?

all of them show using spawn which was inoculated with something like agar and then the spawn itself inoculates a bulk substrate. if you read it you'll figure it out.


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Re: Has anyone tried growkits? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #21758685 - 06/03/15 06:54 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Actually, I have been helping myself. I've been researching on and off the past 2 or 3 months. I actually just gotta get my hands wet with doing all this... The difference between all the Teks is confusing, and I was originally going to just do straight PF and learn... However, I said I was going for consistency and someone had said that Agar was necessary for that, so That's what I'm doing. I don't know a lot of the terminology and the differences off hand, so that can be confusing also.
This really seems pretty easy if I can keep the processes quick and clean.... It's really just like a cookbook except I'm playing with bacteria and fungus and sterilization. I love this kinda stuff.. i smoke a shit-ton of bud, and actually like tasting and experiencing strains and stuff.... Learning about the plant, so this is like right on track with that


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Re: Has anyone tried growkits? [Re: new2doinstuff]
    #21758748 - 06/03/15 07:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Did you find a tek to use?


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Re: Has anyone tried growkits? [Re: mush madness]
    #21758877 - 06/03/15 07:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Pasty+Food coloring (Dark)
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19208976#19208976

Spitball Monotubs + airflow (fans) + Polyfil (not magnets yet... not needed. Plus i'm not sure how good of a seal the are for contaminants from outside. i question this.)
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20356759

I'm still not sure how to transfer the Agar.The ONLY question i have is if i need LIQUID to inject into the tops, (drill w/silicon seals) or if I just scoop the Agar from it's own jar, into the Grain jars via Closed-Air Glovebox?? (BRF/Verm?)


Bulk: I've decided i want to do something cheap, Obviously Pasteurizing it....  so I'm gonna look into prices for the bulk, but seeing how i can get Hpoo free, I figured i would use that. BRF idk where to get other than our grocery store, and it seems to be expensive to do in the bottom of a tub, when 1Lb 8oz is friggin 11 dollars...... and Verm, idk what the prices are on that, but i KNOW h-poo has a LOT of nutrients in it... I'm triyng to keep costs low, i only have about another 60-120 to spend (i think??) Someone said the extra work of H-poo isn't worth the work.... pasteurizing grains and coir via pillowcase method is less frustrating with not too many losses, Plus, I can probably just throw some H-poo with the Coir (or grain) when I  pasteurize it anyways.

-I still need Spores or prints, and probably misc. things other than the important stuff (cleaning things. i have 70% iso and non-powdered nitrile gloves so far... undenatured alc+burner)

things I have already- tin foil, 2x3 glad rounds (not mini, couldnt find), 2 tubs, PC (ordered, getting monday) Jars, 70& iso, Agar.... I have things like paper towels and whatnot already.


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Re: Has anyone tried growkits? [Re: new2doinstuff]
    #21758936 - 06/03/15 08:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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BRF idk where to get other than our grocery store, and it seems to be expensive to do in the bottom of a tub, when 1Lb 8oz is friggin 11 dollars...... and Verm, idk what the prices are on that, but i KNOW h-poo has a LOT of nutrients in it...




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no leave brf in the PF cakes. BRF is like the grain spawn just ground up. the grain spawn is your "new brf" if you're doing spawn and bulk substrate grows.




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you have a pressure cooker (PC), you're not doing pf-tek cakes, so forget about perlite, brf, sgfc etc..




do you even pay any attention to what we say or am I just wasting my time here?

and if you've read the grain preps or monotub teks you'll see you dont pasteurize grains
nor does a monotub have to stay enclosed from outside contams..


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Re: Has anyone tried growkits? [Re: new2doinstuff]
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Re: Has anyone tried growkits? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #21758953 - 06/03/15 08:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

text pictures and video, for any learning type.


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Re: Has anyone tried growkits? [Re: new2doinstuff]
    #21759775 - 06/03/15 11:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Much appreciated... I'm not trolling Btw. It's actually funny that you'd think I am though.

"is this kid stupid, or just trolling?"
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Re: Has anyone tried growkits? [Re: new2doinstuff]
    #21759880 - 06/04/15 12:06 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

We understand it is a lot to take in all at once but we are all here to help. First step is to obtain spores. Then you need to study and gain experience working with agar. The good thing about agar is that you only need to squirt a drop of spore solution into each agar dish. A spore syringe contains 10cc of spore solution every cc contains 20 drops. So all in all you have 200 agar plates to gain experience with from one spore syringe. The next step would be grain prep but lets focus on one thing at a time. Do you know what a SAB is?


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Re: Has anyone tried growkits? [Re: insanemike]
    #21760713 - 06/04/15 08:38 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

OP watch some of these videos to get a feel for what your gonna be doing.

Munchausen's videos


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Re: Has anyone tried growkits? [Re: Grey]
    #21760761 - 06/04/15 08:58 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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OP watch some of these videos to get a feel for what your gonna be doing.

Munchausen's videos




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Re: Has anyone tried growkits? [Re: insanemike]
    #21761823 - 06/04/15 02:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Do you know what a SAB is?




I don't.


edit: Yes. a still air box. I didnt recognize the abbv


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Re: Has anyone tried growkits? [Re: new2doinstuff]
    #21761975 - 06/04/15 02:45 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If you have time this weekend try to build one so you have it

Do you have your grain ? Rye, oats, wheat, wbs ?

And have you checked out that site that WORKS for your spores?


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Re: Has anyone tried growkits? [Re: mush madness]
    #21762096 - 06/04/15 03:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Checking into that- What grains should I use, and where can i get them cheaply? I have 96.55 left, with 20.00 being added back on due to Complaint to walmart about shipping speed of my PC :thumbup:


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