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Re: Has anyone tried growkits? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #21755008 - 06/02/15 09:35 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Sorry if I'm asking a lot, i learn through asking questions more than out of a book or instructions (they do help for sure though...)

---Monotub tek-
(ok, cool. seems easy enough. Just put the light in the closet close to the tubs, and do an on/off cycle...
---Agar tek
(I don't understand exactly why or how to separate strains or how to see the difference, what i should look for, what to save, how to save... THIS I need more research on FOR SURE.... I dont want to have to pour anything, to where I make a mess, or have a chance to spread whatever...... Still researching AGAR stuff, but seeing how i want CONSISTENCY, i've chosen this because of failure rates.)
---H-poo in the monotub(s), No casing layer (you said I don't need one? Isnt casing for stopping bacteria from entering the substrate? I feel that could be helpful when switching from Tape to Polyfil?)


***You said make a post when i know what i want to do... This is what i want to do***

Edit: agar POWDER??
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=agar

edit edit: Agar trays?
http://www.amazon.com/EZ-BioResearch-Pre-poured-Plates-plates/dp/B004MKHNJK/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1433302573&sr=8-8&keywords=agar


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Re: Has anyone tried growkits? [Re: new2doinstuff]
    #21755083 - 06/02/15 09:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Lets step by step it

You dont want the pre poured trays, the agar you listed is agar agar which is fine but you will need a nutrient like malt or potatoe flakes

Look on the sponsor page, you can buy them mixed in powder form with the nutrient added

Also you will want to have 2 types on hand to prevent your mycelium from getting lazy


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Re: Has anyone tried growkits? [Re: mush madness]
    #21755105 - 06/02/15 09:56 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I apologize, two types of what specifically? I really would like to use honey, because i know it's human life sustaining properties. i feel it would get me very healthy mycel


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Re: Has anyone tried growkits? [Re: new2doinstuff]
    #21755122 - 06/02/15 10:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I use mea and pda

But there's quite a few recipes available here


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Re: Has anyone tried growkits? [Re: mush madness]
    #21755144 - 06/02/15 10:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

mea/pda? I'm sorry, i dont know the abbv of things yet.

i saw this too

1,000ml water
20 grams dry dog food
20 grams agar agar

seems easy enough...


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Re: Has anyone tried growkits? [Re: new2doinstuff]
    #21755163 - 06/02/15 10:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Potato Dextrose Agar - PDA

Malt Extract Agar - MEA

Im sure that one will work just fine


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Re: Has anyone tried growkits? [Re: new2doinstuff]
    #21755248 - 06/02/15 10:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

wait wait, i thought agar was a seaweed extract, you can get different agar?


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Re: Has anyone tried growkits? [Re: new2doinstuff]
    #21755279 - 06/02/15 10:30 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Agar is the gel making part its not nutritious so it won't break down like gelatin or pectin would. You add ypd or malt extract to make the agar viable for something to grow on it. Man middle school biology is really falling apart in the world


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Re: Has anyone tried growkits? [Re: new2doinstuff]
    #21755340 - 06/02/15 10:44 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

This agar thing is slightly overwhelming... Still trying though. All i've been doing for three hours is figuring out HOW to do agar right with different teks, and if i need to some sort of second jar to colonize or if i can just mix the agar with honey or malt extract, have it grow mycel, and add it to the box. If it's as easy as agar, honey, water, and adding it to the box directly (instead of colonizing a jar into cakes)

So if i do this, what's the point of the petri dishes?


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Re: Has anyone tried growkits? [Re: new2doinstuff]
    #21755349 - 06/02/15 10:46 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

The point is to start with a clean culture and then to expand your spawn before going to bulk.


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Re: Has anyone tried growkits? [Re: new2doinstuff]
    #21755368 - 06/02/15 10:50 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yes... So would I expand it in the jar like that? if Agar is much more colonized , I'm worried about making TOO MUCH, and adding TOO MUCH to the tub directly from the agar... Do i need a step between Agar and adding to Bulk?

@bohisatta, I see in your "spores are for microscopy only" link it says to transfer to PF cakes, but someone said NOT to do that... you can just suck it up with water into a syringe to PF it, right? Also, are Spore prints or Liquid better for agar


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Re: Has anyone tried growkits? [Re: new2doinstuff]
    #21755399 - 06/02/15 10:56 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Yes... So would I expand it in the jar like that? if Agar is much more colonized , I'm worried about making TOO MUCH, and adding TOO MUCH to the tub directly from the agar... Do i need a step between Agar and adding to Bulk?

@bohisatta, I see in your "spores are for microscopy only" link it says to transfer to PF cakes, but someone said NOT to do that... you can just suck it up with water into a syringe to PF it, right? Also, are Spore prints or Liquid better for agar




Agar to grain to bulk


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Re: Has anyone tried growkits? [Re: new2doinstuff]
    #21755402 - 06/02/15 10:57 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You have to use different lids to use agar with pf tek jars. You skip the dry verm barrier and use a gas exchange lid


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Re: Has anyone tried growkits? [Re: new2doinstuff]
    #21755419 - 06/02/15 11:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Is there a better or easier option? i think you mean GE lid on the JAR and not the Monotubs, right?


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Re: Has anyone tried growkits? [Re: new2doinstuff]
    #21755435 - 06/02/15 11:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Is there a better or easier option? i think you mean GE lid on the JAR and not the Monotubs, right?




You could buy all your stuff including pc and spores and just do a ms ( multi spore) in grain and then to bulk in a mono

Learn agar while you do your first grow


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Re: Has anyone tried growkits? [Re: new2doinstuff]
    #21755449 - 06/02/15 11:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Because I'm using h-poo (nearly free)If i still to Brown Rice/Verm jars, can i just transplant that to H-poo and have no issues?

also, Multispore will make "new" kinds of spores I can name or whatever right?  (liquid, or prints??)


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Re: Has anyone tried growkits? [Re: new2doinstuff]
    #21755610 - 06/02/15 11:54 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

What syringes should i get and from where? (I live in NY and there's huge heroin problems so i need some stupid certificate of need or something??)


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Re: Has anyone tried growkits? [Re: new2doinstuff]
    #21755651 - 06/03/15 12:10 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Where I live, I can order spore syringes and have them delivered all day long but I can't order just empty syringes because of local laws. It sounds stupid but it's the truth.


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Re: Has anyone tried growkits? [Re: new2doinstuff]
    #21755686 - 06/03/15 12:27 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

ahhh i meant for jar innoculating for empty jars (gonna have to put the Agar in something to poke into grain jars)


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Re: Has anyone tried growkits? [Re: new2doinstuff]
    #21756137 - 06/03/15 05:19 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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ahhh i meant for jar innoculating for empty jars (gonna have to put the Agar in something to poke into grain jars)





Typically we just open the lid and drop a wedge of agar in with a sterilized scalpel.
Youll need to make and learn to use a still air box for this kind of stuff.

I live in NY too. You can buy syringes at pharmacy with no paper in this state.

But they only sell insulin syringes, much too small for our purposes. If you are working with agar you wont need syringes ever tho.


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