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InvisibleALesserCrowley

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I killed my shroomies. Would appreciate any help understanding how.
    #21749659 - 06/01/15 06:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Novice mycologist here. I bought a growkit (I agree: "Booooooh growkits!":grrr:) from a smartshop so I could try my hand at growing shroomies and have a realistic chance at ending up with at least some shrooms without getting stuck in the mycelium-growing phase. I suspect the words "commercial growkit" are perhaps fighting words in here but compared to other recreational substances the 36 "00" size gelatine capsules of chemical satori I eventually got out of it were well worth the 40 Euros the kit cost me. I thought I was buying a "McKennaii" growkit and that's what the label on the box said, but right before I harvested my first flush I came to the conclusion that the lack of brownish color on the caps was probably due to the fact that my box actually contained some "Albino" strain. No biggie though, it's all the bee's knees compared to consensual reality.

First flush I harvested May 14th and was about 178 grams wet. I mistakenly believed that with 2 more flushes coming I could afford to be picky and threw away most of the malformed (but probably perfectly edible and active) mushrooms on the side and bottom of the substrate. Might have been 300 grams or so had I kept those. Drying, grinding and capping was easy.

Unfortunately the shrooms I'm getting on my second flush look terribly diseased and I will have to send them off to the big mycelium colony upstate tomorrow. There is no mold anywhere on the mycelium but all my little shroomies looked bad from the time they were just wee little pins. Their hats were pointy and black rather than round and white. The stems initially looked OK but as I checked today they had started to turn grey/green as well. The big one that has collapse under the weight of it's cap was the only one that initially looked OK but it too now seems to have died. Temperature has been around 20°C or so, kind of at the low end but this didn't seem to be a problem for the first flush. I also have to admit that I didn't ventilate the spawn bag, but again almost all my shroomies looked diseased from the time they started pinning (pointy black caps) and if I recall correctly it's not necessary to ventilate before that, right?



In case identifying the strain helps with determining what might have killed my shroomies, here's an older picture of the partially dried shrooms from my first flush (sorry I don't seem to have any pre-harvest pictures):


Any help or advice would be sincerely appreciated!
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Re: I killed my shroomies. Would appreciate any help understanding how. [Re: ALesserCrowley]
    #21750320 - 06/01/15 08:32 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Well as im sure you know grow kits are no good and bro those dont even resemble cubes if thats what they were supposed to be i have no idea how that happens but it might be bacterial leme ask
did you fan/mist as needed?
Do they smell bad?


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Re: I killed my shroomies. Would appreciate any help understanding how. [Re: Zuto18]
    #21751059 - 06/01/15 11:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Zuto18 said:
Well as im sure you know grow kits are no good and bro those dont even resemble cubes if thats what they were supposed to be i have no idea how that happens but it might be bacterial leme ask
did you fan/mist as needed?
Do they smell bad?





They are cubes.. They just look like they were subjected to high temperatures with no misting schedule.


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InvisibleALesserCrowley

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Re: I killed my shroomies. Would appreciate any help understanding how. [Re: Zuto18]
    #21751409 - 06/02/15 03:43 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Zuto18 said:
Well as im sure you know grow kits are no good and bro those dont even resemble cubes if thats what they were supposed to be i have no idea how that happens but it might be bacterial leme ask




They were supposed to be Psilocybe McKennaii, whatever that is (it's supposedly very strong so I went with that), but after the first flush it looked like Psilocybe Postumia, i.e. a certain strain of albino cubes.

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did you fan/mist as needed?




I thought that was only necessary once they started pinning? They already looked sickly from the moment they first pinned. I didn't fan the bag afterwards, that's true, but I don't think it's the root cause of whatever happened.

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Zuto18 said:
Do they smell bad?



Yes, they smell like the plague.
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Re: I killed my shroomies. Would appreciate any help understanding how. [Re: ALesserCrowley]
    #21751990 - 06/02/15 09:57 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Toss em now bad smells are a dead giveaway bro they are no good


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Re: I killed my shroomies. Would appreciate any help understanding how. [Re: Zuto18]
    #21752002 - 06/02/15 10:01 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Thats pretty cool tho if you try and grow those again start a grow log be interested in watching em grow tho :thumbup:


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Re: I killed my shroomies. Would appreciate any help understanding how. [Re: Zuto18]
    #21752758 - 06/02/15 01:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

They're still edible, just dying for some fresh air. They smell bad because of the lack of air exchange/great conditions for bacteria. Seriously think you should poke more holes in your chamber, or make a sgfc. I always tell people with grow kits to poke more holes in the bags. They never seem to give enough fresh air

Venting the bag isn't how you make air exchange. It's to evaporate the surface from the misting. It has to be constantly exchanged through the holes in the bag. To provide fae with venting you'd have to do it every 5 minutes because it must be exchanged of co2 constantly

Misting is beneficial for all stages of growth in fruiting. Not just for pins.

The more fae they get, the less bacteria will thrive.

20°C is fine. I'm usually around 22-25 sometimes up to 30 during the dead summer. It's fine. They can take pretty much any temperature between 10-35 cause I can see them fruit when contaminated subs are left outside in those temps


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Re: I killed my shroomies. Would appreciate any help understanding how. [Re: Mad Season]
    #21778177 - 06/08/15 10:39 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Thx all for your helpful advice, hope I will get better results with my next growkit before I up my game and start doing everything myself.
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Re: I killed my shroomies. Would appreciate any help understanding how. [Re: ALesserCrowley]
    #21780886 - 06/08/15 09:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Thx all for your helpful advice, hope I will get better results with my next growkit before I up my game and start doing everything myself.
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Ditch the kits man youl get shitty results if you want cheap and easy PF Tek with SGFC doesnt get easier or cheaper than that


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Re: I killed my shroomies. Would appreciate any help understanding how. [Re: Zuto18]
    #21780899 - 06/08/15 09:35 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

:whathesaid:


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