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eating shrooms that came from a bacteria riddin substrate
#21749149 - 06/01/15 03:45 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I know this post might be a little out of place but I was wondering if anybody has ever eaten shrooms from a bacteria substrate . will it be ok ? because my buddy has a grow that is going pretty good but about 80% of the very top of the substrate is brownish yellowish mixed in the white mycelium . thank you for yalls time . also it looks like the shroom stems are a bit off white color. almost a brownish color ...idk
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Re: eating shrooms that came from a bacteria riddin substrate [Re: KamelToeRodeo]
#21749170 - 06/01/15 03:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Er post pics in the contam forum. Just a thought.
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Re: eating shrooms that came from a bacteria riddin substrate [Re: KamelToeRodeo]
#21749173 - 06/01/15 03:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I wouldn't eat them. Mushrooms are like 90 percent water. If the bacteria is in the water or the byproducts of the bacteria, the mushrooms could absorb it and make you sick. Im not an expert and someone else may disagree, but i wouldnt. Just like i wouldnt eat any bacteria riddled food.
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Re: eating shrooms that came from a bacteria riddin substrate [Re: stratocast]
#21749188 - 06/01/15 03:57 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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this is part of the sub
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Re: eating shrooms that came from a bacteria riddin substrate [Re: KamelToeRodeo]
#21749195 - 06/01/15 04:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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If there is bacteria, it will probably smell sour. But, check in the contamination forum.
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Re: eating shrooms that came from a bacteria riddin substrate [Re: KamelToeRodeo]
#21749202 - 06/01/15 04:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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stratocast said: I wouldn't eat them. Mushrooms are like 90 percent water. If the bacteria is in the water or the byproducts of the bacteria, the mushrooms could absorb it and make you sick. Im not an expert and someone else may disagree, but i wouldnt. Just like i wouldnt eat any bacteria riddled food.
Could just be Myc piss though but without pics???  Quote:
KamelToeRodeo said: this is part of the sub

That looks ok if anything I'd say it is just dry and stressed. Post that pic in the contam forum to make sure.
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Re: eating shrooms that came from a bacteria riddin substrate [Re: r00tuuu123]
#21749215 - 06/01/15 04:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah i was much more worried before the pics.
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Re: eating shrooms that came from a bacteria riddin substrate [Re: stratocast]
#21749226 - 06/01/15 04:12 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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in yalls opinion do shrooms have a brownish color to them ? like the stems
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Re: eating shrooms that came from a bacteria riddin substrate [Re: KamelToeRodeo] 1
#21749249 - 06/01/15 04:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Wouldn't making tea destroy the bacteria (since you apply heat) after they're dry
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Re: eating shrooms that came from a bacteria riddin substrate [Re: KamelToeRodeo] 1
#21749253 - 06/01/15 04:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I see a couple of aborts at the base of the big one. OP mist that bitch a lot. Else you're gonna lose the grow. and post it in cultivation and ask what to do The TCs should be able to help you.  Quote:
KamelToeRodeo said: in yalls opinion do shrooms have a brownish color to them ? like the stems
Those look perfectly healthy to me Harvest what you have and get that tub some moisture ASAP.
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Re: eating shrooms that came from a bacteria riddin substrate [Re: KnyggaPlease]
#21749262 - 06/01/15 04:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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KnyggaPlease said: Wouldn't making tea destroy the bacteria (since you apply heat) after they're dry
that's a very good question. also when they hit the dehydrator I bought ...will the bacteria survive ??
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Re: eating shrooms that came from a bacteria riddin substrate [Re: r00tuuu123]
#21749266 - 06/01/15 04:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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that's what im saying ..they say to dunk your sub but I think that's after each flush
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Re: eating shrooms that came from a bacteria riddin substrate [Re: KamelToeRodeo]
#21749277 - 06/01/15 04:25 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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KnyggaPlease said: Wouldn't making tea destroy the bacteria (since f2f o. you apply heat) after they're dry
that's a very good question. also when they hit the dehydrator I bought ...will the bacteria survive ??
You cant just cook rotten food to make it better. The byproducts of bacteria are poisons that wont dye even after the bacteria die.
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Re: eating shrooms that came from a bacteria riddin substrate [Re: KamelToeRodeo]
#21749285 - 06/01/15 04:27 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I personally wouldn't trust them
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Re: eating shrooms that came from a bacteria riddin substrate [Re: stratocast]
#21749288 - 06/01/15 04:27 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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how is it rotten when its growing. . they are still maturing
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Re: eating shrooms that came from a bacteria riddin substrate [Re: KamelToeRodeo]
#21749289 - 06/01/15 04:27 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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KnyggaPlease said: Wouldn't making tea destroy the bacteria (since you apply heat) after they're dry
that's a very good question. also when they hit the dehydrator I bought ...will the bacteria survive ??
It can but IMHO that Substrate needs water there is no evidence I can see of bacteria. I repeat post in cultivation with more pics if possible someone there can advise you of the best course of action.
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Re: eating shrooms that came from a bacteria riddin substrate [Re: r00tuuu123]
#21749299 - 06/01/15 04:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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already did post there.. nobody has replied. but I do thank you guys for your interest in helping
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Re: eating shrooms that came from a bacteria riddin substrate [Re: Grim767]
#21749334 - 06/01/15 04:35 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Grim767 said: I personally wouldn't trust them
You have 1 fuckin post how many grows have you done? Those shrooms appear perfectly normal and healthy and as far as the sub it appears dry and if it were bacterial it would look all wet and mushy. OP take this to cultivation please. Don't waste a tub because someone who has grown once says they wouldn't trust them. You still very well lose the tub but it is worth a try. Cross posted but I'm anxious to se what comes of it.
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Re: eating shrooms that came from a bacteria riddin substrate [Re: KnyggaPlease]
#21749341 - 06/01/15 04:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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KnyggaPlease said: Wouldn't making tea destroy the bacteria (since you apply heat) after they're dry
Not likely. In general it is recommended to boil something for 10 minutes to kill bacteria and other infectious organisms.
That is pretty brown, but sometimes I've seen cakes turn brown in spots like that if they take a really long time to colonize, or if the cakes are just left in there a long time. It usually isn't that extended but that doesn't look like a cake, so maybe it is a similar thing. It's like oxidized myc or something I think.
I don't understand though, the cakes were birthed at 80%?nvm I'm confusing myself
What is that substrate?
Did you dunk/roll or do a casing layer? The stems look normal. I would say that as long as it doesn't smell funny or is slimy or something like that it's most likely ok.
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Re: eating shrooms that came from a bacteria riddin substrate [Re: r00tuuu123]
#21749344 - 06/01/15 04:39 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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haha alright my man. I took it to the cultivation forum and they said that its fine but nobody can id whats wrong with the sub. that's my main concern because people act as though they have never seen it before. thanks for the help
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Re: eating shrooms that came from a bacteria riddin substrate [Re: moonrockmushy]
#21749350 - 06/01/15 04:40 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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it is c poo that some crumbled up BRF cakes where crumbled to. that's it
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Re: eating shrooms that came from a bacteria riddin substrate [Re: KamelToeRodeo]
#21749380 - 06/01/15 04:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ok. I'm really not an expert, It's been a little while, but I think stuff like this is pretty much the reason behind casing. Mycelium isn't really designed to be out in the open, even in a relatively humid spot I think it is very sensitive to heat, light, and too much/too little moisture. When they die they turn brown because of a chemical reaction involving enzymes. Bacteria might be involved too somewhere but not all bacteria is harmful.
I'm not saying that this is a sure thing, but if you look here:
http://www.shroomery.org/5276/What-are-common-contaminants-of-the-mushroom-culture
there is nothing really that looks like what you're describing. I think it is just what happens when myc starts do die from something other than being actually bruised by impact, where usually it will turn blue.
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