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Desert Delerium


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Safety of home mycology and children.
#21748864 - 06/01/15 02:39 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I enjoy my mushroom growing hobby very much. Soon I am even going to be growing culinary species. But my wife has some concerns about the safety of it and our child to be.
Before our child is born I need to find out if there is any danger related to pathogens or diseases that could be detrimental to the child's health and how to prevent it or I need to cease growing mushrooms.
I'm not concerned about healthy mushroom mycelium in jars and agar plates, but contaminated containers and spore load once I begin growing oyster mushrooms may an issue.
I am currently keeping all jars and agar plates indoors. As long as the contaminated ones are disposed of and cleaned immediately can anyone foresee an issue? And once I start fruiting they will be moved outside into my garage to complete the process and compost the used substrate.
If any advice can be offered for safe cultivation practices please inform me. I would hate for my newborn child to get sick over something I have control of.
Thank you.
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AIRDOG



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Some contaminant bacteria can be potentially dangerous, even for a grown up.... also oyster sporulate so much that you or your child can become allergic to breathing them
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Desert Delerium


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Re: Safety of home mycology and children. [Re: AIRDOG]
#21749594 - 06/01/15 05:50 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah. That's what I'm afraid of. Thanks for the comments.
If I was fruiting them out in my unconnected garage and attempted to pick them before the veils break do you think I would be tracking enough spores indoors to cause any problems? I could even have a shower and change of clothes as soon as I entered the house.
Does anyone think investing in a tyvek painters suit to wear around the mushrooms to protect my clothing from the spore load be a good idea?
Thanks.
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matsc
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That is probably plenty. Oysters spourlate by the bucketload, but most of it ends up on the walls of your fruiting chamber. Keeping it in the garage will keep it out of the house, and what few you "track in" on your clothes wont be much above normal background dust.
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Toadstool5
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Re: Safety of home mycology and children. [Re: matsc]
#21751177 - 06/02/15 12:51 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think the main thing is to keep spawn in a locked cabinet/closet/room so the child can not access any contaminated jars.
With spores, the allergy seems to be brought on by inhaling a concentrated amount indoors. So as long as there is some circulation you should be fine. If circulation isn't possible then maybe a carbon scrubber and HEPA filter running 24/7 in the fruiting room will suffice?
Dont forget to lock up all iso, knifes, syringes, or anything else related to mycology that you don't want your child to handle or eat.
Congrats on the new baby!!!
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Desert Delerium


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Re: Safety of home mycology and children. [Re: Toadstool5]
#21751200 - 06/02/15 01:04 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thanks for all the tips guys!
I might see what I can do about running some sort of filter system in the garage as suggested. And all of my jars and supplies and such will be out of reach and or locked up before the baby comes.
I appreciate all of your replies. It definitely makes me feel better about all of this.
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36fuckin5
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Harvest actives before sporulation. Find a sporeless Oyster strain. Don't ever open anything with purple or black mold. That's all you need to do, and you should be doing those things anyway.
Don't be so damn paranoid.
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Toadstool5
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Re: Safety of home mycology and children. [Re: 36fuckin5]
#21753537 - 06/02/15 04:25 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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There's no such thing as being too paranoid with children! They can find a way to kill themselves with simple items such as a plastic bag or coins.
My friend used to hide in the dryer, i used to chew on electrical wires, and my sister tried driving our van while sleepwalking, kids are dangerous.
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Ghatti
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Re: Safety of home mycology and children. [Re: Toadstool5]
#21756730 - 06/03/15 10:03 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Natural selection......
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36fuckin5
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Re: Safety of home mycology and children. [Re: Toadstool5]
#21757061 - 06/03/15 11:23 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
Toadstool5 said: There's no such thing as being too paranoid with children! They can find a way to kill themselves with simple items such as a plastic bag or coins.
My friend used to hide in the dryer, i used to chew on electrical wires, and my sister tried driving our van while sleepwalking, kids are dangerous. 
And you're all still alive, right? We haven't been around for millions of years because we're easy to kill.
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Re: Safety of home mycology and children. [Re: 36fuckin5]
#21759333 - 06/03/15 09:34 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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lol
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Toadstool5
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Re: Safety of home mycology and children. [Re: Rubestoad]
#21759624 - 06/03/15 10:46 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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After many expensive visits to the emergency room yes.
If you want to take the chance in having your kid get hurt and can afford the medical bills then by all means.. Go for it!
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Re: Safety of home mycology and children. [Re: Byrain] 1
#21761503 - 06/04/15 12:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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as some one with spore lung. don't grow mushrooms in your house.
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Desert Delerium


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Re: Safety of home mycology and children. [Re: 36fuckin5]
#21762120 - 06/04/15 03:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Using a sporeless oyster strain would definitly be the easiest way to go about it. However I have heard that they sometimes don't produce as much mushrooms. Although that may be just a rumor.
As for the actives I plan to ditch cubes and go for stone producers, no spores and easy to keep hidden.
Once again thanks for all the tips and advice.
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Gr0wer
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I grow in my garage and have a toddler. The main dangers are hot items, sharps, chemicals, electrical shock. I keep everything organized and up high and away. Make sure your spray bottles are clearly labeled so you and your wife know the contents. Having all your electrical on CGFI circuits is a good idea even if you don't have children, water and DIY electricity getups don't mix well. One CGFI outlet will protect everything on that breaker leg. The tyvec suit isn't a bad idea just for cleanliness purposes and i've seen plenty of people with walk in grow rooms wearing em.
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