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Bitter Cactus
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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Tybg]
#21762651 - 06/04/15 06:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Tybg said: Shit for the first time in 3 days today. Didn't think this stuff would cause opiate like constipation.
Dude that's my only problem with kratom. The constipation is so bad and I have even had bloody shits. You gotta get magnesium supplements and fiber supplements and drink a ton of water if you use it every day.
Also if you are a daily user don't dose in the morning until you poop.
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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Tybg]
#21762670 - 06/04/15 06:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I get that but I would compare it to coffee constipation somewhat, not familiar with opiates at all really.
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If anything, it gives me the shits sometimes when I eat it. And coffee definitely never constipated me when I used to drink it - a cup of coffee meant guaranteed massive dump within the hour
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Bitter Cactus
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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: drr]
#21762706 - 06/04/15 06:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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When I take kratom on the reg I clog my toilet at least once a week. Idk I get the constipation bad and sometimes don't poop for days. It also makes me shit little goat pellet poops. I know, too much information lol
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Bitter Cactus said: When I take kratom on the reg I clog my toilet at least once a week. Idk I get the constipation bad and sometimes don't poop for days. It also makes me shit little goat pellet poops. I know, too much information lol
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musiclover420 said:

I get that but I would compare it to coffee constipation somewhat, not familiar with opiates at all really.
That's really weird, because for me I cant dump in the morning until I've had my cup of coffee and a camel
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Y'all need more fiber in your diet. I took kratom daily for months with no problems other than it made my poo stinkier.
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Ikr... eat some damn honey bunches of oats and you'll be pooing rocks for days
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Psychblues said: That's really weird, because for me I cant dump in the morning until I've had my cup of coffee and a camel
That is what I mean, if you don't drink coffee once your body is used to it you get constipated. That is what I have noticed about caffeine at least.
I was just making a comparison of that and kratom.
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Tried my first dose of red vein maeng da (7g). Incredible. It works better for the inflammation pain in my legs than Norcos. What sucks about the Norcos is the totally useless acetaminophen which does absolutely nothing for inflammation, and it also prevents me from taking an effective nsaid because I never take those types of meds concurrently. I don't feel like I've taken a stimulant, but it has calmed the usual noise in my head that only until now was able to grasp it's existence.
It's like a calming hum where clarity is more easily achieved in an otherwise turbulent mindset. Man, the anti inflammatory properties are quite remarkable, and I still haven't tried my Bali varieties yet, let alone the other variances to experiment with. I also puchased white and red of the Bali variety, but the white veined maeng da I was hoping to try was out of stock. So I am now a true believer of this fabulous plant. Mother nature ftw against pharmaceuticals.
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I get horrible anxiety during job interviews, who doesn't. But recently I had taken kratom before my interviews and it worked wonders! The words flowed like water and I had no problem coming up with the perfect answers. Even had small talk with the managers which I was never good at. I did this for two places and was offered the job for both, but ended up turning both down for personal reasons. I normally blank out and have a nervous twitch during these things but I had never felt more comfortable. I will never go to an interview without it now.
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Cool 
I really like hearing these stories about people reducing 'drug' consumption in favor of effective natural remedies. Of course, use of Kratom isn't without some risk--but the side effects and risk of strong addiction are pretty minor IMO compared to that of many other drugs.
As far as your resolution of symptoms-- I suspect that the resolution of pain and discomfort is not a function of anit inflammatory effects per se. Typically it takes days/weeks to knock back inflammation in any meaningful way. When you take a med or herbal that alleviates pain that rapidly and transiently it is more likely a consequence of tickling your pain receptors (opiod mu or kappa). While this isn't necessarily a bad thing, one should not think that they are effectively treating the underlying etiology. You are merely masking it--which is cool, but I thought maybe worth mentioning.
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Thats awesome Astral pain. Let me know how the white vein kind is, I've tried red and green but haven't had white yet, and wonder if it'll be an amphetamine-like stimulation or more along the lines of caffeine
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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: pslyke]
#21773669 - 06/07/15 11:19 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'll be all over this thread with any thoughts of my personal new discoveries. I'm not sure just yet the spacing of doses, but I'll mix it up soon enough and try out the white.
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Bitter Cactus
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Astral Pain said: I'll be all over this thread with any thoughts of my personal new discoveries. I'm not sure just yet the spacing of doses, but I'll mix it up soon enough and try out the white.
You got your kratom order?
I am still waiting on mine but am from Canada. What strains did you get? I got white vein borneo, red veined horned kratom, red vein bali, and green vein borneo.
Tip to you since you are a noob.
- Less is more. The less you take the more you will get out of it short term and long term. Think of coffee for example which is related to kratom: You drink a little, you have energy and feel good, but if you drink a lot you can't focus because you feel sick and nauseous. With kratom I find there is a sweet spot around the 6-7 gram range where you get the best effects for the least side effects. I cannot give any dosage advice but I will say that if I were just starting out I would stick around the five gram range.
-White vein is for energy, red vein is for sedation, green vein is the best of both worlds. In my experience the kratom high starts out with an hour of powerful energy and euphoria then turns into sedation.
-In my opinion, dose maximum two times a day. If you do it once a day you get the best effects, still fully positive from two doses, but once you get to three and four there begin to be negative effects in my experience. You feel the first dose of the day way more and like I said before less is more.
But ya the first few kratom highs are dope they level out after that but the first few are epic the same as with any other drug.
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I placed my order on Wednesday and received it Saturday. I got 500g of red maeng da and 250 each of white and red Bali. It shipped from Minnesota so the fact you reside in Canada may be a factor with the speed of your delivery. The sole reason for my interest in kratom was for pain relief, and once that factor has been met I have no reason to take any more.
I tried out the red Bali last night(6g) and I was out like a light within an hour. I was tired to begin with so I can't with much accuracy comment on any other aspects of it's effects. I tried 6g of the white Bali early this morning with muscle relaxing qualities as well as a slight euphoric feeling, but without any of the stimulant like effects that I have read others experience.
I wish they had the maeng da white in stock at the time of my order, but I figured the Bali was my next best choice from what I've read. I think it's just a matter of preference when it comes to choosing the type, but I haven't tried enough different kinds yet to nail down what suits me best. The red maeng da was perfect, but I can't use that as my guide considering the fact it was the first time I had ever used kratom.
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Bitter Cactus
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Ya man I'm just dropping twenty bucks to get an ounce from my local kratom supplier in an hour. I am too impatient to wait.
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$20 for 28grams?
Is your local supplier a headshop?
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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: kr0nik0]
#21778900 - 06/08/15 01:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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kr0nik0 said: $20 for 28grams?
Is your local supplier a headshop?
Just some chick I found online. It'll hold me over until I get my kilo this week I am just super impatient and it has to go through customs still.
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Lower doses tend to be more stimulating, it could be 6 grams is enough to get you into the relaxing hump even with a white vein.
I generally micro dose 1-3 grams and almost always feel pretty stimulated with a relaxing comedown.
Of course I never abused opiates or stimulants like many members on here so I seem to very susceptible to its effects.
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I would imagine my effects, especially those of stimulation, would differ greatly from others considering I take Norcos daily. That being said I have taken a quarter less meds the last two days since starting the kratom. I'm so anxious to try other types, but I have purchased enough to presumably last me a lifetime. I suppose I should stick my stash in the freezer while I accumulate different strains during my experimentation of different flavors.
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