|
Acaterpillar
A little mad...



Registered: 06/09/07
Posts: 18,693
Loc: Down the rabbit hole
Last seen: 3 months, 27 days
|
|
Maybe it was just the higher potency of the Green Maeng Da that was getting me hooked. 
Either way, I was getting a bit worried how my withdrawals would be; but I went a few days without any after switching to the red vein and I didn't have any perceivable withdrawals except for the occasional sneeze.
-------------------- Aaa...E I O Uuu...A E I O Uuu..A E I O uh Uuu.. *Cough* *Cough* Ooo...U E I O Aaa...U E I Aaa..A E I O Uuuuu... At first sight, The Perfection of Wisdom is bewildering, full of paradox and apparent irrationality.
|
Not Responding
Busted Liar...

Registered: 09/17/13
Posts: 6,755
|
|
wait until you stop all together.
-------------------- Dear Kratom, I've been numb for so long that I forgot how to feel So I don't care if it will break my heart, Just fuck me till I disappear
|
Moonshoe
Blue Mantis


Registered: 05/28/04
Posts: 27,202
Loc: Iceland
|
|
I don't have any downsides to Kratom when using daily but if I run out I get depression and brutal insomnia and twitching until I dose again. But I don't get any inter dose withdrawals or anything . It takes about 24 hours for the withdrawal to really set in and the worst part is the inability to sleep without it but it doesn't interferw with my sleep if I am taking it. Even if my last dose is like 6 pm I can easily sleep through the night and not need to dose for a few hours after waking.
It's a legit addixtion but so much more manageable in every way then any other addiction and it honestly enhances my health and well being and functioning , unless I run out.
If I ever decide to quit I would make sure to have etizolam as the worst part is insomnia if I could knock myself out at night it would be very easy to manage. Then coffee And weed to help me through the day, etiz at night but even then it would be somewhat rough.
--------------------
Everything I post is fiction.
|
Acaterpillar
A little mad...



Registered: 06/09/07
Posts: 18,693
Loc: Down the rabbit hole
Last seen: 3 months, 27 days
|
|
Usually withdrawals kick in on day two for me.
-------------------- Aaa...E I O Uuu...A E I O Uuu..A E I O uh Uuu.. *Cough* *Cough* Ooo...U E I O Aaa...U E I Aaa..A E I O Uuuuu... At first sight, The Perfection of Wisdom is bewildering, full of paradox and apparent irrationality.
|
Not Responding
Busted Liar...

Registered: 09/17/13
Posts: 6,755
|
|
24 hours for me.
if i take my last dose sat, ill feel it sunday night.
back in the day i would just drink, but thats out of the question so...
-------------------- Dear Kratom, I've been numb for so long that I forgot how to feel So I don't care if it will break my heart, Just fuck me till I disappear
|
Bitter Cactus
reformed bad boy


Registered: 01/26/12
Posts: 11,773
Loc: Alberta, Canada
Last seen: 8 years, 4 months
|
|
Quote:
Not Responding said: wait until you stop all together.
Listen dude, I was taking it every day and stopped just a bit ago.
The worst of the physical withdrawal is mostly over by the second half of the third day, by the end of the fourth it is hardly there. The depression stays after the physical w/d a couple more days then after that you are really just missing the routine.
I honestly know probably how depressed you feel, you might even have intense feelings of hopelessness and suicidal thoughts, not even joking, but it goes away. I honestly since quitting have more overall energy, but I did have my concerta dose increased.
I find kratom gives you a bunch of energy at the beginning, but then actually starts to make you apathetic and content just laying down and surfing the web all day and watching t.v. The inter dose withdrawals are annoying too.
I am still considering waiting maybe one month, then doing a split kilo order from this new top vendor I found. Maybe even order less and try to only do it on weekends so I get all the benefits and can use it more recreationally. Every day use is dope and if the half life was longer it would be something I would do all the time. I just hated being woken up early by withdrawals.
The shitty little dirty secret about kratom is this. One of the alkaloids has a half life of 2.5 hours, the other is 3.5 hours. It is actually really short and the reason daily users dose multiple times a day. That is the only thing I wish I could change about it, I would double or triple that half life. But I love it all the same it is really the best drug to treat depression and stuff cause when you stop it all comes but but honestly I feel nearly as good without it.
-------------------- Taking acid and thinking you are a better man is a lot different then actually becoming a better man.
|
musiclover420
psychonaut



Registered: 11/06/12
Posts: 19,563
Loc: PNW
Last seen: 2 years, 5 months
|
|
I too slept like shit last night without my kratom, I dabbed all day and went and past out nicely but then couldn't stay asleep much all night.
No depression or even irritability yet which I had noticed in relatively minor amounts.
I am also getting lower, I have a little bit left from 2 maeng da strains then a bit of 2 red veins and some full spectrum extract and I will be out.
Time for a tolerance break and a re stock.
-------------------- Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free
|
Eggtimer
HotSauce Lover

Registered: 05/04/13
Posts: 3,097
Last seen: 4 days, 2 hours
|
|
Quote:
Not Responding said: im on day 2 of no kratom after a year+ of daily use.
i got no sleep last night. at all. i had that stupid RLS, but in my left arm. im also battling with alcohol and have not had a drop for 3 weeks now.
shit sucks. im tired. im cranky. i dont want to do anything.
i have school tonight, but will prob not go.
fuck you, kratom. fuck you.
Mannnn I've been going almost 2 years straight. Time flies on kratom! Started to lose interest in it lately thinking of quitting for a while.
Last time I went for it I remember waking up in the middle of the night and my leg was like on fire and spasming. I tried to stretch it out and holy fuck that was a bad idea. I had pain in my leg from doing that for at least 2 days.
-------------------- It's all for the s
|
Sham87
mashAllah


Registered: 05/16/11
Posts: 9,818
|
|
You guys should read this article, a couple of our members (moonshoe) were quoted in it.
--------------------
   ...once in a while you get shown the light in the strangest places if you look at it right...
|
musiclover420
psychonaut



Registered: 11/06/12
Posts: 19,563
Loc: PNW
Last seen: 2 years, 5 months
|
|
You sure the kratom effected you leg pain? I get cramps like that every once in awhile even before I ever took kratom.
Feels like my leg is going to snap some times when I try and stretch it or tweak it weird.
-------------------- Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free
|
musiclover420
psychonaut



Registered: 11/06/12
Posts: 19,563
Loc: PNW
Last seen: 2 years, 5 months
|
Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Sham87]
#22136207 - 08/24/15 04:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Sham87 said: You guys should read this article, a couple of our members (moonshoe) were quoted in it.

Quote:
Increased my penis size to over 7″ in length and just over 6″ in girth.
They bit some serious troll bait methinks...
Quote:
Built 2 online businesses that both make over $300,000 in revenue.
Quoted from same source as above...
-------------------- Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free
|
Bitter Cactus
reformed bad boy


Registered: 01/26/12
Posts: 11,773
Loc: Alberta, Canada
Last seen: 8 years, 4 months
|
|
Moonshoe got quoted in a kratom article!

“Kratom has massive benefits, no withdrawal and negligible side effects, and massive therapeutic value.” (Moonshoe, shroomery.org)
-------------------- Taking acid and thinking you are a better man is a lot different then actually becoming a better man.
|
kr0nik0
Ole' Salty


Registered: 02/13/12
Posts: 17,756
Loc: Western Slope, CO
|
|
What an utterly ridiculous, misinformed, and hilarious article.
My personal favorite quote was by one of our very own:
Quote:
I noticed my poop is forest green and much wider. …In fact, when pooping I feel as if I’m being anally raped by Shaq! I clogged my toilet twice in a period of three days!!” (RonaldFuckingPaul, shroomery.org)
The following statement alone renders everything in the article as misinformation:
Quote:
Dozens of online vendors now peddle strains to head shops or directly to consumers, who chew, brew, snort, smoke, ingest and even inject kratom.
--------------------
“[...]the only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and everybody goes “Awww!”
|
Bitter Cactus
reformed bad boy


Registered: 01/26/12
Posts: 11,773
Loc: Alberta, Canada
Last seen: 8 years, 4 months
|
Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: kr0nik0]
#22136417 - 08/24/15 04:53 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
That article made my day. I am surprised I never got quoted in it. 
Whoever took that much time to find those retarded quotes has NOOOOOOOOO life lol
-------------------- Taking acid and thinking you are a better man is a lot different then actually becoming a better man.
|
musiclover420
psychonaut



Registered: 11/06/12
Posts: 19,563
Loc: PNW
Last seen: 2 years, 5 months
|
Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: kr0nik0]
#22136421 - 08/24/15 04:54 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
Yeah that article honestly read as satire to me but with a sadly serious overtone
-------------------- Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free
|
Bitter Cactus
reformed bad boy


Registered: 01/26/12
Posts: 11,773
Loc: Alberta, Canada
Last seen: 8 years, 4 months
|
|
Lol the DEA will probably ban it nation wide cause of those quotes.
|
musiclover420
psychonaut



Registered: 11/06/12
Posts: 19,563
Loc: PNW
Last seen: 2 years, 5 months
|
|
More like stupid people will read it and be like "WTF".
Of course the article doesn't mention most of those vast differences in effects comes from how people are using kratom and their own personally body chemistry.
Not the mention the diversity in kratom's alkaloid profile.
-------------------- Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free
|
vinsue
Grand Old Fart



Registered: 02/17/04
Posts: 17,953
Loc: The Garden State(NJ)
|
Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: kr0nik0]
#22138692 - 08/25/15 03:46 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
kr0nik0 said:`
The following statement alone renders everything in the article as misinformation:
Quote:
Dozens of online vendors now peddle strains to head shops or directly to consumers, who chew, brew, snort, smoke, ingest and even inject kratom.
Guess I'm going to need a bigger syringe. These 5 - 7g krat shots just aren't cutting it anymore.

. . .
--------------------
"All mushrooms are edible; but some only once." Croatian proverb. BTW ... Have You Rated Ythans Mom Yet ?? ... ... HERE'S HOW ... (be nice) . ...
|
Not Responding
Busted Liar...

Registered: 09/17/13
Posts: 6,755
|
Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: vinsue]
#22138973 - 08/25/15 06:38 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|

finally got some sleep last night. i woke up only once around 1am but feel back to sleep shortly after.
-------------------- Dear Kratom, I've been numb for so long that I forgot how to feel So I don't care if it will break my heart, Just fuck me till I disappear
|
musiclover420
psychonaut



Registered: 11/06/12
Posts: 19,563
Loc: PNW
Last seen: 2 years, 5 months
|
|
Same here, I only slept bad one night in really but I don't dose too high usually
-------------------- Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free
|
|