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OfflineAcaterpillar
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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Moonshoe]
    #22079396 - 08/11/15 11:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Moonshoe said:
For me the only problem with kratom is running out so I try never to.




That struck me funny cause I was just having that thought a few minutes ago.


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #22083167 - 08/12/15 08:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

What else potentiates kratom besides cacao?

I want to try and make kratom fudge or chocolate and add varying things to potentiate the kratom.

If you could balance it all out you could make a healthy somewhat tasty kratom treat potentially :strokebeard:


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You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by

I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me

I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free



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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: musiclover420]
    #22083186 - 08/12/15 08:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

coffee has a nice synergy

I've got some potent valerian root extract and surpisingly I hadn't even thought of combining the two since I generally take it for sleep... might give it a shot


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: musiclover420]
    #22083219 - 08/12/15 08:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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musiclover420 said:
What else potentiates kratom besides cacao?

I want to try and make kratom fudge or chocolate and add varying things to potentiate the kratom.

If you could balance it all out you could make a healthy somewhat tasty kratom treat potentially :strokebeard:



If you can make tasty kratom treats.... I'd buy.


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Achillita]
    #22083241 - 08/12/15 08:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:lol:

Seems like a pretty solid idea, and I feel like the right recipe could easily mask the flavor of the kratom.

especially if it is blended with things that bring out its effects so you can use less...

I feel like kratom + valerian root = crazy fucked up dreams :tongue2: but that is just a guess.

I have read a lot of valerian giving people nightmares and kratom gives me weird semi vivid dreams sometimes. I could see it doing wonders for sleep though.


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Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky

You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by

I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me

I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free



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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: musiclover420]
    #22083265 - 08/12/15 08:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Good idea.  Cinnamon.  Clove.  Milk thistle.  Cayenne.  Panax ginseng.  Turmeric.  L-Theanine (B6 boosts absorption).  Schizandra.  Neem.  Gotu kola.  Kava.  Ginkgo biloba. Nigella sativa.  Vanillin.

Http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21357863


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1)Combo of oral DMT + smoked Bufotenine
2)Amanita (urine drank twice)
3)Mushrooms > Achuma 16"+cid(still need higher dose Achuma)> Cid (still need high dose)
4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators)
5)Salvia (need to try quid)


All readable matter in the above post is ficticious... any similarities to real life are purely coincidental.

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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: flickedbic]
    #22083320 - 08/12/15 08:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:super: Perfect friend! I was hoping to compile a list or stumble upon one. Now I can start plotting this out.

Damn that is an impressive write up! So much info :drooling:

:havesomescience:


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You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by

I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me

I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free



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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: musiclover420]
    #22092497 - 08/14/15 07:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

up in this thread

:sunny:


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: masspan]
    #22092504 - 08/14/15 07:41 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Ugh, kratom still effects me like shit.

Decided to revisit it just incase my previous experience was just a fluke, but nope.


Took 5 grams today and had a full blown panic attack. Not from being high on it, I just started to overreact to a bad situation and it escalated to a panic attack. I have never had a panic attack before :frown:


It makes me stressed and irritable rather than relaxed and calm.


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #22092573 - 08/14/15 08:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

How many kinds have you tried and in what doses? 5 grams can be a lot for someone without a tolerance and depending on the strain/ potency.

I have seen people get intense opiate sickness from 5 grams, you are lucky.


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You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by

I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me

I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free



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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: musiclover420]
    #22092579 - 08/14/15 08:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

This stuff is white vein borneo


I have tried all 3 vein colors and have had borneo, maeng da, and bali before. 3 different vendors I have tried, but all the same negative effects.


I have been taking it 3 days in a row so I have a little tolerance going on. Normally I take 4 grams with no tolerance for full effect unless it is maeng da, which I take 2.5-3g of.


The only time I really got sick was when I took 6g of maeng da red vein, was just as bad as the time I took 60mg ms contin orally with no tolerance.

In the low dosage range (1-3 grams usually) I don't really feel anything unless it is maeng da.


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #22092631 - 08/14/15 08:26 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

White vein produces high energy effects. If you aren't in a position to channel or use that energy boost, or even unaware that it caused those effects I can see how that could turn into a panic attack.


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: OsculateOfDemise]
    #22092653 - 08/14/15 08:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, this is actually my first time trying white vein. I ordered red vein but the vendor accidentally sent the wrong kind, but since it was only 2 ounces I wasn't gonna bother


I didn't even know white vein is apparently the most stimulating type of kratom, I thought it was in the middle of green and red. Definitely might explain why I had a panic attack though.


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #22092729 - 08/14/15 08:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

The most stimulating strain I've had was white vein sumatra.
If you weren't expecting that then I'm not surprised you panicked.


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #22092805 - 08/14/15 09:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:whathesaid:

White vein borneo is my favorite morning strain becouse of how uplifting and stimulating it is even in smaller doses.

Blends are the shit though, makes it so you can get the perfect blend of effects even in smaller doses.


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Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky

You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by

I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me

I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free



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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #22092814 - 08/14/15 09:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Gottaloveacid said:
Yeah, this is actually my first time trying white vein. I ordered red vein but the vendor accidentally sent the wrong kind, but since it was only 2 ounces I wasn't gonna bother


I didn't even know white vein is apparently the most stimulating type of kratom, I thought it was in the middle of green and red. Definitely might explain why I had a panic attack though.




I got tolerance but I really feel like I've never have been able to tell a strong difference in the colors/strains.

It is related to coffee and has some yohimbe alkaloids in it.
I'd love to see some mass spectrometry on the different veins/strains.


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Eggtimer]
    #22097610 - 08/16/15 05:40 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I love it when it makes me tired enough to nod off to sleep, but I really haven't got a gauge on how much that is. It's hit or miss with the amount of pain pills I take, and I think the red horned I just got can knock me out better than maeng da. It's like now it's too late/early to take my sleep meds and I want to slug a bunch to nod out. IDK, It's sunday morning...who cares


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: musiclover420]
    #22097810 - 08/16/15 07:31 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

You guys tried the Kalimantan strains ? Green, golden, red, white

Pretty darn good . Enjoying the red right now


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Moonshoe]
    #22097871 - 08/16/15 08:04 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Kalimantan strains? lol

Isnt that just Borneo?
Kali is a part of the island Borneo last I checked..


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Fantastic Mr. Fox]
    #22097888 - 08/16/15 08:15 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Fantastic Mr. Fox said:
Kalimantan strains? lol

Isnt that just Borneo?
Kali is a part of the island Borneo last I checked..




Doesn't mean the kratom is the same all over the island.

That being said, I think a lot of the kratom strains are complete bullshit.


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oh ive cried on drugs

sunshine said:
Tragic.  I told the cop not to do it but he didn't listen.


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