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Bitter Cactus
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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: spock]
#22007577 - 07/28/15 12:03 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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If you have like a kilogram of kratom you pretty much can take it every day then just taper off at the end of your order and take a break. That's what I do.
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spock
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Bitter Cactus said: If you have like a kilogram of kratom you pretty much can take it every day then just taper off at the end of your order and take a break. That's what I do.
Me too. I only(usually) buy by the kilo. have to. so I tapered but still caught some WDs. I'm getting old so.. yeah. Thing is when Kilos are on hand it is natural to let the tolerance get too high and then makes the taper harder. It is already time to get more. as soon as the wd stops I really realize why I was taking it in the first place. pains I forgot existed.
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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: spock]
#22054296 - 08/06/15 04:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Damn you guys, I just totally overdosed on kratom. It was like 4 days since I did the powder and I had some green tai. All I did was measure one teaspoon and I feel like puking, racing thoughts, similar to taking too much caffeine but much worse on the body. Fuuuuuck this. I just wanna sleep it is making me really sleepy too... Do you think the aya I took last Sunday is partly to blame?
I was feeling sooo good earlier when I drove into town. Get home and all hell breaks lose. It feels better now and I feel good, i think I just NEED WATER.
Edited by SpiritualWarrior (08/06/15 04:10 PM)
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musiclover420
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This is why I always try to start very low with kratom, then re dose later if I feel the need.
I have only "OD'd" a handful of times and usually it is more of a "woah, this kratom is kicking my ass I am glad I didn't take more" kind of thing.
Glad you are feeling better already though, water does really help as does laying down and sometimes smoking some herb can help too IME.
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Yeah it was like how you describe but worse its like your body feels like its going to have heart attack. Best way I can describe it... With caffeine it feels like you actually will. This green strain I got does feel like caffeine its just got a mellowing out effect to it.
Edited by SpiritualWarrior (08/06/15 05:51 PM)
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musiclover420
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Yeah caffeine is much worse, I have never felt that shitty off of kratom.
I tried a lower dose of mdma with some kratom one time and had some heart worries but they passed and I was fine besides a lot of sweating
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Getting something to eat always helps, and if you feel like you need to puke get it out, (sometimes you have no choice)
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Woah You are still around! Hows it going BC?
Do you ever use stem and vein?
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kratom is fucking trash. never felt a thing off of it...
but that's probably because im used to heroin and methadone...you know...REAL opiates..
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Kratom is literally my favorite drug in the world.
It has saved my life. It has transformed my life. It is the greatest thing that ever happened to me (except my wife of course )
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I had some wal mart brand pizza and feel much better. Quote:
Bill_Oreilly said: kratom is fucking trash. never felt a thing off of it...
but that's probably because im used to heroin and methadone...you know...REAL opiates..
I'm sure your wallet and your liver are better off for it lmao. I get cranked as hell off kratom, its the best thing since coffee.
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musiclover420
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Kratom is much more than just an opiate... Have with using those "real opiates" 
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7-Hydroxymitragynine (mitragynine hydroxyindolenine) is a terpenoid indole alkaloid in the plant Mitragyna speciosa, commonly known as Kratom. It has opioid agonistic activity.[2] "The potency, calculated using pD (2) values, was 30-fold higher than that of mitragynine and 17-fold higher than that of morphine
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One notable distinction between 7-hydroxymitragynine and traditional opioids is that 7-hydroxymitragynine does not cause hypoventilation (respiratory depression) and therefore does not carry the primary safety risk associated with traditional opioids.
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NDStepp84 said: Getting something to eat always helps, and if you feel like you need to puke get it out, (sometimes you have no choice) 
Yeah it does help, had some pizza from wal mart brand (not called wal mart btw). Helped kinda felt like puking from it. Was able to get it down. Feel much better now Green Tai is nothing to mess with, its very potent.
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Man I wish I could get that high from kratom. I've always had a natural tolerance to all opiates to begin with though. Even after having breaks I still dose 2 heaping teaspoons and just get enough of a boost to go about my day. Only got sick from kratom once and that was from redosing all day and then drinking
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2 teaspoons is only about 4 grams, considered a moderate dose. People usually take 6-8 for stronger effects.
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I've heard different. I've read that a full teaspoon is around 4-4.5 grams. I do two heaping teaspoons.
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I've weighed a teaspoon of kratomand it's about 2 grams.
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I use to always weigh my kratom doses but now I rarely do, and I also rarely get undesired effects. Like taking it for energy and getting sedated.
It happens every once in awhile but even if I was weighing it it would probably by happening.
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The first "source" starts out with this which makes me doubt its knowledge in the area:
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Kratom is the only strain available
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However, if you take less than 2 grams you are more likely not to experience any effect at all.
I usually take 1-3 grams and generally get pretty solid effects without a tolerance at least.
Everyone is different though, as are different strains from different sources.
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