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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: hex_enduction]
    #21989615 - 07/24/15 11:00 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I'm curious as well. Never heard of it before.


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: kr0nik0]
    #21989987 - 07/24/15 12:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Well I definitely enjoy Kratom and it makes me forget about all the problems in the world. The problem is I could see myself getting very addicted to it and also the last time I took it I had awful itching. This is probably from my immune system releasing anti-histamine, which is basically saying fuck taking this, it's a poison.


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Hexabranchus]
    #21990011 - 07/24/15 12:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I have this white borneo stuff but i can't tell if thats' for sexy time or taco bell


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Not Responding]
    #21990025 - 07/24/15 12:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Not Responding said:
get the 00 caps.

or do what i do

i get a 32oz gatorade, drink a few gulps, add the kratom, shake violently, drink the mix, shake, drink, shake, drink.

the gatorade covers the taste, makes it easy to swallow, and it kicks in quick as shit. youre basically doing a toss and wash.

the 00 caps work well too. you can get 500 for under 10.00. its about 14 caps for 8gs. really not that bad.




no dosage discussion on the furoms

but i took a table spoon and was able to easily pill 14 000 caps
000caps can hold anywhere from 700-1600mL in the fabrication process
00 just under 775mL

so if you have a table spoon of water or kratom or watever
two should roughly get you in the 5grams dosage range


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Hexabranchus]
    #21990278 - 07/24/15 01:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Well I definitely enjoy Kratom and it makes me forget about all the problems in the world. The problem is I could see myself getting very addicted to it and also the last time I took it I had awful itching. This is probably from my immune system releasing anti-histamine, which is basically saying fuck taking this, it's a poison.




I'm gonna take a wild guess here and assume you've never tried a traditional opiate (oxycodone, hydrocodone, heroin, etc) before, correct?

If you think Kratom makes you forget about all your problems, that's nothing. Real opiates basically give you the same feeling but amplified exponentially. As far as addiction, yes it's easy for kratom to become very habitual kind of like weed but addiction to the point of feeling like death if you don't have it simply doesn't happen. One of the alkaloids in Krat makes it so there's a plateau of "highness" you can achieve. Since it behaves that way, it doesn't give people an incentive to really abuse it because all that will happen is you'll get dizzy, sweaty, and throw up.

Anyways, the itching is very common among anything in the world that binds to your mu-opioid receptors. Not because it's "poison" in any way lol. And you're on the right track, kind of. Your body releases histamines when your mu-opioid receptors start working overtime. Anti-histamines are actually drugs like Benadryl which is why I take a very small dose of Benadryl with krat to not only potentiate it, but also to take away the itch.


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“[...]the only people for me are the mad ones,
the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk,
mad to be saved,
desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and everybody goes “Awww!”



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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: kr0nik0]
    #21990315 - 07/24/15 01:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

wait....benadryl potentiates kratom?


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: OsculateOfDemise]
    #21990332 - 07/24/15 01:44 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

It sure does :smile:
I'll usually take just one tablet of it, (25mg's) and it has a very noticeable effect.
The few times I took the recommended dose for allergies (50mg's) it made me way too sleepy so I stay away from that much unless I'm taking the kratom an hour or 2 before bed.


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“[...]the only people for me are the mad ones,
the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk,
mad to be saved,
desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and everybody goes “Awww!”



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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: kr0nik0]
    #21990375 - 07/24/15 01:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

interesting  :strokebeard:


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: OsculateOfDemise]
    #21990388 - 07/24/15 01:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

OsculateOfDemise said:
wait....benadryl potentiates kratom?



Takes away the dizziness,
and adds to sedatation

from January-march

I did that combo every night,



taking DPH a lot is bad af for your sleep schedule, and I think I remember hearing longterm dph use leads to higher rates of dementia


DPH is nice everynow and then, for emergency sleep aid use though


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: SunnyD]
    #21990393 - 07/24/15 02:01 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I've never got any dizziness from kratom, even in high doses. I just have a natural high tolerance to all opiate and opiate like drugs.


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: OsculateOfDemise]
    #21990395 - 07/24/15 02:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I don't take kratom for the sedating effects either, in fact I don't really like the red veins. Green is my go to. I take it for pain relief, anxiety and mood boost. I like to take it and go hiking a lot.


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: OsculateOfDemise]
    #21990427 - 07/24/15 02:10 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Exactly. For me and the GF it's been such an amazing drug since we both have horrible cases of anxiety.

She only took it for the first time last week and it helped her out so much for anxiety at work, and just mood in general.

As for pain, I honestly feel that kratom just numbs my mind enough not to care about the pain (like a traditional opiate). It doesn't actually treat it and Aleve works a lot better for myself.

Edit: I remember the first time you ordered some kratom I think. We might have talked through text of FB...either way, I remember you telling me that you were amazed at how it helped your anxiety for a job interview. It's awesome that you stay active on it with hikes. I just do my usual skimboarding or surfing thang while on it and it makes it a lot more enjoyable than it already is.


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“[...]the only people for me are the mad ones,
the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk,
mad to be saved,
desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and everybody goes “Awww!”



Edited by kr0nik0 (07/24/15 02:12 PM)


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: kr0nik0]
    #21990464 - 07/24/15 02:19 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yes! It has worked wonders for stress induced situations like interviews, driving, large crowds. All things that have put me into a panic attack before. Now I just feel completely at ease. I just landed a job working at a veterinary hospital where they drilled me for 45 minutes of stupid ass questions that are worded to make you confused. I breezed through them all. In the past interviews I sometimes clam up even though I knew what to say. Twice during my last interview the hiring manager stated that I did very well on my answers. So happy :smile:


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: OsculateOfDemise] * 1
    #21990526 - 07/24/15 02:32 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

That's awesome! I'm so happy for you.
I know you've gone through some tough situations in the past year and it just puts a smile on my face that at least the working issue has been resolved.

You've always been an awesome person towards me, we've had some great talks, and I can't wait to meet you in a few months. If you're still up for it of course as my gf will be tagging along. 

This song came to mind when I was typing this post :lol:


If you can't see it on your phone, it's Andrew Gold - Thanks For Being A Friend.
(theme song from the Golden Girls)


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the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk,
mad to be saved,
desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and everybody goes “Awww!”



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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: kr0nik0]
    #21991105 - 07/24/15 04:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Hahah aww thanks man. I have been through a hell of a lot, life has changed drastically but for the better. Aside from the huge medical bill they keep fucking up with (I have mailed documents for financial assistance several times but they keep saying they never got anything...) I think my life is on a better track. Just got that job, waiting on the background check to clear (I'm a little nervous...), going back to school in a few weeks to become a veterinary tech. Been breaking out of my shell and meeting people and going out places. It's been a really great summer. I would love to chill with you soon, you and your girlfriend! You still hafta make up the time you were going to visit me at the beginning of the year :tongue:


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: OsculateOfDemise]
    #21991271 - 07/24/15 04:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Right on! It's amazing how much life can change for the better so quickly.
I feel as if when one important thing goes right, all the other things you're trying to achieve start falling into place because of your positive mindset.
Again, just really happy that you're doing so well.

And yes, I owe you a night out to a stand up comedy show. Consider it done! Did you end up going to the one that you bought us tickets for?

Oh, and just a reminder since it's been a little while since we talked. I'll be flying out to Vegas on November 3rd, and should be close to where you are by the 8th. :smile: I'll just give you a call either tonight or tomorrow so I can talk to you further without derailing this thread. :peace: & :heart:


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“[...]the only people for me are the mad ones,
the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk,
mad to be saved,
desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and everybody goes “Awww!”



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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: kr0nik0]
    #21995406 - 07/25/15 02:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Soo I finnished making resin out of my kratom



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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: twelvelookslikeu]
    #21995543 - 07/25/15 02:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

how did you do this? why did you do this? xplain please.


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Not Responding]
    #21995590 - 07/25/15 02:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I had a bunch of kratom that was not the best quality and a member suggested i try to make an extract out of it. have not tested it yet http://www.politiquessociales.net/homemade-kratom-extract/


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    #21995602 - 07/25/15 02:55 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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