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musiclover420
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The stimulation and mood enhancement are similiar for me. I honestly prefer kratom in some ways.
It generally is less intense for me unless I eat a lot, where as even just 50mg of some potent MDMA will have me semi teeth grinding and sweating profusely.
Kratom reminds me of a lot of things though, the stimulating effects make me think of MDMA though for sure.
Then it has a relaxing effect that reminds me of cannabis is ways, and sometimes I even get a slight shroomy feeling from it 
space dandy is the shit, I have been taking a break from watching it so I can get super lit up and power through both seasons
-------------------- Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free
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Ordered my $100. kilo on Monday, got it today. 1/4 each - red borneo, red maeng da, white m.d. and green malay. 
Took my 6g. dose of the red m.d.around 2PM, and I approve of B-K's quality.
Tomorrow, 7g. green malay(first time with this flavor) I prefer the reds, but I want to compare the other 'colors'.
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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: vinsue]
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vinsue said: Ordered my $100. kilo on Monday, got it today. 1/4 each - red borneo, red maeng da, white m.d. and green malay. 
Took my 6g. dose of the red m.d.around 2PM, and I approve of B-K's quality.
Tomorrow, 7g. green malay(first time with this flavor) I prefer the reds, but I want to compare the other 'colors'.
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Jealous of that stash, pretty much covers the spectrum. Green malay is awesome IME, it's the most euphoric of the non-red veins and is relaxing but still provides a good amount of energy.
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musiclover420
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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: vinsue]
#21920611 - 07/09/15 03:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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How do you dose your kratom?
I have been out of caps for awhile and the toss and wash is traumatizing me. Even if I get it over with it like 30 seconds it is pretty unpleasant.
Also nice variety for sure I love diversifying myself.
I love the green malay too, I was mostly using that for awhile but then I started mixing it with some white vein Borneo and never went back.
Then I started just taking the white vein as I find it the mellowest and most uplifting and stimulating. Which is a interesting combo.
-------------------- Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free
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I like the WV borneo I've been taking but I'm kind of getting sick of it. White veins are much more subtle IME, but definitely have an energizing kick unlike the other veins.
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musiclover420
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That is what makes the blends so nice.
White veins are great for being productive, at least in my experience. When combined though they get more intense. Or if dosed more of.
I generally dose very low but even 2-3 grams of a nice white vein can be pretty damn nice.
My favorite though is a bit of all 3 veins
-------------------- Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free
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musiclover420 said: That is what makes the blends so nice.
White veins are great for being productive, at least in my experience. When combined though they get more intense. Or if dosed more of.
I generally dose very low but even 2-3 grams of a nice white vein can be pretty damn nice.
My favorite though is a bit of all 3 veins 
I don't think I've ever tried a blend of all three, that sounds awesome.
Just might have to buy a key with my next paycheck. A couple reds and a couple greens, I've still got a lot of white so I should be good on that. Any particular strain blends you'd recommend?
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Bitter Cactus
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I think it is best to have as many different strains/ vein colors as possible for each order. My recommendation is to get at least one of each color .
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Just dosed and about to go hiking with a friend. Kratom + hiking = pure awesome. Could go for hours without getting as tired as before. It is just the perfect booster for most occasions.
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musiclover420
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I generally just stick with one or two but occasionally I go all out. I don't know if I have ever done it all at once though.
Generally I will go with a green and or white in the morning or mid day and then a red vein in the evening.
I try to order as many kinds as I can and I generally keep trying new vendors out too so I can't really recommend specific strains 
to the hiking, I went on a midnight hike last fullmoon with 2 friends super high on kratom. Well I was they were just baked. Most of the way there and back I was like 10-20 feet ahead of them becouse I was so pumped even though it was super late. The next day I was pretty sore from pushing myself, it was nice.
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vinsue
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...How do you dose your kratom?
+ + on an empty stomach, about 15 minutes before breakfast. 7g. is my norm, sometimes I'll go up to 10g if I'm having a rough morning.
Ny first go with krat last year, I got a 1/4lb sample pack, and I wasn't half through it before I got one of these. (under $20. delivered, forget exact price)

I got no problem waiting a littte longer for it to kick in. Also, I don't really get nausea, or w/d feelings when I stop.
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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: vinsue]
#21921013 - 07/09/15 05:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I need to get more capsules and maybe one of those machines. I never noticed much of a delay really myself.
Toss and wash is like semi instant to 1-3 minutes to start kicking in for me where as capsules its like 3-5 minutes
That sounds like a nice morning 7-10 grams sounds like a lot to me though. I generally dose pretty light though.
6-8 grams is probably as high as I have gone and that was with a nice tolerance.
I have has some mild nausea but I don't think kratom alone was at fault, also have had mild withdrawals occasionally but nothing too bad.
That kratomtee pic may be one of y new favorites
-------------------- Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free
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Just got my first order of kratom online, instead of in the lhs lile i have usually gotten. Not only is it cheaper, but it is VASTLY better. Got half a lb. of kraken brand thai red vein, compared to experience brand bali kratom(both are more sedative)I'd say its 1.5-2x as potent, and i feel lile it will last me a lot longer. I was spending 50-70$mega a week before, but now I'll probably be spending 60$ a month if i can time my orders right.
My only complaint is the packaging. In the headshop it comes in a little container similar to minute maid lemonade mix, whereas this comes in a bag. LHS kratom comes with dosage refence, and online it says it's not for human consumption and only used as an incense product. So if anybody happens to stumble on my stash, their gonna react like im taking bath salts or spice. Luckily i have empty containers from the LHS, so I'll just transfer it over.
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hex_enduction said: What part of the kratom high that you experienced is similar to MDMA? Overwhelming love/empathy type feelings I'm guessing, or just an overall similar vibe? Just curious, I've never tried MDMA, but kratom's effects for me are very different from what I've heard about molly.
I love your sig btw, Space Dandy is a great show.
That green malaysian stuff I took last night was like mdma. It is love/empathy feelings but its what you feel in your body that makes it like mdma. And then you are energetic at the same time, but then you are tired and want to pass out at the same time. It really is one of the best drugs i've ever had. I'm not gonna take it again today tho so I won't get addicted.
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Kratom is not approved for human consumption, so your local headshop is risking everything. Many just use a teaspoon or tablespoon. Dense clumps make this pretty inaccurate, but with krat's required dose in the grams range can work well enough.
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DustBunny said: Kratom is not approved for human consumption, so your local headshop is risking everything. Many just use a teaspoon or tablespoon. Dense clumps make this pretty inaccurate, but with krat's required dose in the grams range can work well enough.
See i thought it fell under the same umbrella as supplements. Fda just has nothing to do with it.
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musiclover420
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Yesterday I started a kratom journal.
It basically will consist of me keeping notes when I take kratom of how it effects me.
Looking forward to seeing how it goes, only 2 entries so far.
Borneo Maeng Da and Malaysian MD.
-------------------- Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free
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so I've been taking it for a couple months daily now
got back on it saying I'd just take it on weekends... then only a dose after I get off work, now I'm dosing when I wake up, at lunch, and around 5 or 6. I kinda knew this was gonna happen again and kinda feel guilty about taking it/having the mentality I need it. Though I really don't. Often a dose will wear off and I'll feel normal maybe a little lethargic then I'll be like o fuck I forgot to take my lunctime dose lol. I know for certain with other addictions I've had I never forgot to dose or was to lazy to prep my drugs (making capsules in this case)
Anyone relate?
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musiclover420 said: Yesterday I started a kratom journal.
It basically will consist of me keeping notes when I take kratom of how it effects me.
Looking forward to seeing how it goes, only 2 entries so far.
Borneo Maeng Da and Malaysian MD.
very good idea, I may have to do this. For now though I'm discontinuing all kratom use to test the hypothesis that it might be responsible for the horrible side pain/nausea I've been experiencing lately. I went to the ER for it and I was told I'm fine so I might as well give it a shot.
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hex_enduction said:
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musiclover420 said: Yesterday I started a kratom journal.
It basically will consist of me keeping notes when I take kratom of how it effects me.
Looking forward to seeing how it goes, only 2 entries so far.
Borneo Maeng Da and Malaysian MD.
very good idea, I may have to do this. For now though I'm discontinuing all kratom use to test the hypothesis that it might be responsible for the horrible side pain/nausea I've been experiencing lately. I went to the ER for it and I was told I'm fine so I might as well give it a shot.
Yeah don't overdo the shit. I heard it can cause liver probs in some ppl. Take some milk thistle to counteract the negative effects, and drink plenty of water. This stuff makes you thirsty.
The green malay has been for me the most memorable experience handsdown.... besides the leaf form. The other powders just feel like caffeine.
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