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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: SpiritualWarrior]
    #21866975 - 06/28/15 01:36 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I have had no problems with bowel movements even when I was taking it every day. I think the problem is your diet. Ya'll need more morning wheaties.


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: OsculateOfDemise]
    #21867006 - 06/28/15 02:02 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I took some of my white bali last night(8gx2) and found out the hard way how much of a creeper it is. Both of my reds I feel within 15min, but this was like 45. The stimulant effect isn't like what you would get from ritalin, but more like way too much caffeine. The sedation was more like I was in a head lock and about to tap out. I hadn't felt a head buzz like that since I was a kid and drank too much hard liquor.

I took some red bali tonight and made the mistake of following it up with a Monster XL. Fuuuck! It's like the DTs all over again. I need to put in an order soon because I'm out of my maeng da. :sad:  That shit works wonders but I should mix it up on my next order. No more white and the red bali kinds makes me ill. Red horned if I remember correctly is pretty good. Hopefully for pain.

BTW, nice change of avi Kr0nik0  :thumbup:


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Astral Pain]
    #21867414 - 06/28/15 07:18 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I used "k-2" for 3 years.. daily.. and yeah, kratom is not in it.
Also, kratom does not give the same effect that k-2 gives.

Good luck getting off of opiates, man.
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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: space walk]
    #21867421 - 06/28/15 07:19 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

So anyway, now, I've tried the red and the green.

I still haven't had the stuff on a totally empty stomach, and still haven't had any stomach or bowel upset.
Since you guys talk about getting sick and taking it on an empty stomach, I thought I'd throw that out there :wink:


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: kr0nik0]
    #21867562 - 06/28/15 08:14 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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How much did you take roughly?

And I don't know if you answered me earlier, but do you have a tolerance to opiates?
Even a very slight one?




I have a humongous tolerance to opiates I broke my neck and 09 and got breast cancer in 13.  I took about 5 grams I think it was a level tablespoon.  I dont think that I could take much more I almost puked trying to get that down.


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: magicallyfunky]
    #21867719 - 06/28/15 09:19 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Maybe the kratom was bad quality. Did you take it on an empty stomach?

edit: opiate tolerance-try upping the dose. Capsules are easier for digesting kratom but it takes a lot longer for effects to kick in & in my (very limited) experience with kratom the effects are not as strong when kratom is put into capsules.


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: magicallyfunky]
    #21868356 - 06/28/15 12:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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magicallyfunky said:
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kr0nik0 said:
How much did you take roughly?

And I don't know if you answered me earlier, but do you have a tolerance to opiates?
Even a very slight one?




I have a humongous tolerance to opiates I broke my neck and 09 and got breast cancer in 13.  I took about 5 grams I think it was a level tablespoon.  I dont think that I could take much more I almost puked trying to get that down.




Unfortunately you won't feel anything from Kratom with even a very small opiate tolerance.
It's works great to help get through withdrawals though.


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: kr0nik0]
    #21868462 - 06/28/15 12:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

No guys the green borneo from my vendor was not as good as the other strains. It is a plant like anything else and I get it super cheap so it is to be expected that it will not always be amazing, but my other three strains are epic. I shipped the green borneo back and am either gonna ask for white or red maeng da.

My kijiji add got a few hits. I am not sure what I pay for an ounce if I pay one hundred a kilo, but I am selling three ounces today for 60 bucks which is at least like 40 dollars profit for a few minutes of my time.

To the person complaining about kratom constipation. Yes, I used to have it. I used to sometimes even have bloody shits and it was bad. I now have soft bowel movements and no issues. What I do is take 450mg of magnesium citrate before bed, I drink tons of water all day and take these fiber pills. In the morning I have a glass of water with a tablespoon of olive oil in it to get things moving and a large cup of coffee and take a soft dump at the same time every day in the morning. The key is to not take any kratom that day before you have the bowel movement.

The stimulation I get from kratom is superior to my concerta. I have tolerance to my ADD meds and don't notice them working anymore but I find kratom does more and even when I get tolerance over to the other effects the stimulation is always still there. I think I am gonna get white maeng da cause I love feeling awake. I think kratom is a good solution for ADD and is a powerful nootropic superior to the racetam nootropics you get online.


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: space walk]
    #21868589 - 06/28/15 01:27 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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space walk said:
I used "k-2" for 3 years.. daily.. and yeah, kratom is not in it.
Also, kratom does not give the same effect that k-2 gives.

Good luck getting off of opiates, man.
:goodluck:




Yeah I met this dumbass pill pusher from michigan on omegle the other night... I showed him my kraken kratom package and he immediately was like "that's synthetic weed, you can buy that at the gas station"... I'm like no its not you idiot. He said "yeah cause its got the same logo and everything". I didn't really feel like arguing with him. He wouldn't believe me that the shit was completely natural and non-synthetic... Although I have heard that some kratom companies spray the shit with rc's, is this true?


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: SpiritualWarrior]
    #21868600 - 06/28/15 01:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Seems like most people buy from kraken kratom, so do you guys think they're the best krat vendor on the site?


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: OsculateOfDemise]
    #21868611 - 06/28/15 01:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I have had no problems with bowel movements even when I was taking it every day. I think the problem is your diet. Ya'll need more morning wheaties.




oh I do I had my caffeine today and that shit always helps me go... That along with nicotine from my vape. This shit definitely has the ablity to slow you down tho, its just how it acts on the body. Kind of like weed but worse, and kinda like caffeine but the opposite of caffeine.


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: SpiritualWarrior]
    #21868614 - 06/28/15 01:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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space walk said:
I used "k-2" for 3 years.. daily.. and yeah, kratom is not in it.
Also, kratom does not give the same effect that k-2 gives.

Good luck getting off of opiates, man.
:goodluck:




Yeah I met this dumbass pill pusher from michigan on omegle the other night... I showed him my kraken kratom package and he immediately was like "that's synthetic weed, you can buy that at the gas station"... I'm like no its not you idiot. He said "yeah cause its got the same logo and everything". I didn't really feel like arguing with him. He wouldn't believe me that the shit was completely natural and non-synthetic... Although I have heard that some kratom companies spray the shit with rc's, is this true?




Buy from a trusted vendor.
And some gas stations and head shops do sell this stuff, but it's not fake weed. They set it out near the fake weed in the shops I've been to, though.
Hell, I've never heard of people smoking it..

Usually, when I meet a dumbass who likes drugs and hasn't heard of what I've got, I use that opportunity to really sell it :wink:


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Lucis]
    #21868627 - 06/28/15 01:36 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Fennario said:
Seems like most people buy from kraken kratom, so do you guys think they're the best krat vendor on the site?




From my first and only experience, yes they're good. Another place I heard was good was called kwikkratom.com.. Some dude on youtube recommended them very strongly. He said he been using kratom since 2009 on and off, LOL. So he really likes the shit obviously.


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Lucis]
    #21868779 - 06/28/15 02:16 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Fennario said:
Seems like most people buy from kraken kratom, so do you guys think they're the best krat vendor on the site?




I've never ordered from them, but I have no reason not to.


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: SpiritualWarrior]
    #21868848 - 06/28/15 02:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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SpiritualWarrior said:
Quote:

Fennario said:
Seems like most people buy from kraken kratom, so do you guys think they're the best krat vendor on the site?




From my first and only experience, yes they're good. Another place I heard was good was called kwikkratom.com.. Some dude on youtube recommended them very strongly. He said he been using kratom since 2009 on and off, LOL. So he really likes the shit obviously.



yea I can vouch for kwik

they're one of the better priced domestic vendors too


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #21868907 - 06/28/15 02:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Kraken Kratom burned me with their red vein borneo. Taking 3-4 grams did next to nothing. However their Bali powder got me smacked off of 3.5 grams, so idk, they're a bit too inconsistent


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Lucis]
    #21868998 - 06/28/15 03:12 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Seems like most people buy from kraken kratom, so do you guys think they're the best krat vendor on the site?




I've never ordered from them but I stay away with anything that has fancy packaging like that.
It makes it seem to me with that kind of branding that they're not as good as the vendors getting bulk directly from the source in SE Asia.

I could be completely wrong since I've never tried them but it just looks like they are probably ordering from the same supplier as me (or similar) and marking up their prices. I charge the same prices as them when I sell Kratom locally here to put it in perspective.


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: kr0nik0]
    #21869114 - 06/28/15 03:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I'd agree with that. My kratom comes in a plain clear plastic bag, with a small label saying what it is, do not consume it. No brand.


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: daytripper05]
    #21869626 - 06/28/15 05:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Mine comes from a family owned business right in my state. There is no warning and everything is hand written.


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: OsculateOfDemise]
    #21869661 - 06/28/15 05:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

All this talk about selling locally is making me consider giving it a try. :strokebeard:


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