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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: musiclover420]
    #21847998 - 06/23/15 09:50 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Lol. I've always been a "more is more and better" with most drugs.

Exception being psychedelics since I plan my dose out before my trip and also because of the insta-tolerance from them which I find great or I'd be tripping every night.

I guess with weed as well. I used to love staying stoned all day long until I was 6 years ago when I started having severe panic attacks. Since then I still smoke just about every day but only a couple bowls after work or if I have nothing to do.


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: kr0nik0]
    #21848130 - 06/23/15 10:17 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I hear ya, kronik.

A few years ago, it was badass to be stoned as hell all the time, now it feels equally badass to smoke a small amount and chill out on that. weird. hell, saves me money. lol


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: space walk]
    #21848183 - 06/23/15 10:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Indeed. The difference for me when I was still in my early-mid 20's is that I could be extremely high and still function perfectly with work, social interaction, etc. Nowadays the only things I do (or want to do) are eat, listen to some music, and have sex if I'm so lucky to have a lady friend over.

Funny story, I went to a house party I guess you could call it last month. One of the guests there brought along some joints that were rolled with with some really potent wax. I decided it'd be alright if I smoked with him. Turns out I was wrong, immediately after getting high I just wanted to be by myself. Ended up spending about the evening in one of the rooms playing with my friend's dogs and watching TV. :lol:

Fuck, I'm getting old.


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: kr0nik0]
    #21848207 - 06/23/15 10:39 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

yeah, but if you're not a smoker anymore, wax'll get you there.

I like body highs and CBD oil because it's an all-couch chill.
All of the paranoia, anxiety, and the feeling you need to flee... they're in the THC.
CBD oil is way better imo.
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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: space walk]
    #21848313 - 06/23/15 11:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Without a doubt and I agree 100%. I just wish I would've found out about isolated CBD sooner.

I quit smoking cigarettes after 12 years of smoking 4 months ago by switching to vaporizers. I've been vaping 150mg's (1ml) of CBD ejuice every time I smoke weed to offset any of the anxiety/paranoia issues caused by high THC strains.

I also vape the CBD juice while working and before doing something that might be stressful. It does wonders for my GAD as well as pain management.


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: kr0nik0]
    #21848594 - 06/24/15 12:28 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I'm putting my kratom for sale on kijiji.

I have done this before to make some money while enjoying my kratom. I don't know if americans have kijiji but it is like craigslist.


I put it up for twenty an ounce and people pay that and I used to do it before and make lots of money doing it so I am gonna see if I get any luck. Once you get a few customers they usually come back for more.


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21848602 - 06/24/15 12:32 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Nah, I haven't heard of it but the past few times I ordered over a KG of kratom I listed it on craigslist (250g's for $100) and it was always gone in a day or two. And I also was selling 100g bottles to a headshop for $35 but that was a pain in the ass so I stopped.

To put it simply, I haven't really payed for Kratom in close to a year.


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: kr0nik0]
    #21848643 - 06/24/15 12:54 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I pay a hundred a kilo and the quality is good so it pretty much is free cause a kilo should last over three months for me.

If I can make money from this kratom that would be cool too.


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21848700 - 06/24/15 01:19 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Second night now, and the shit's got m wired, stayd up all night last nght, slept about 1 hour today, now I'm wide awake.

I don't understand people throwing up off of it, I guess because they have 0 opiate tolerence, as I said b4 mine is skyhigh from painpill use, but this stuff def. helps, it's not near the buzz, but hell when you are out of your meds, this shit helps big time, A lot better then blowing a bunch of money on dope! JK, I don't do that, but know some who do, which this stuff cold help them get off of it, seems to me a better idea then methadone or subs.

Is that CBD oil really effective? I wonder if it would show in a piss test, I would not think so if it is legal to sell


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Imperfect Iam]
    #21848738 - 06/24/15 01:44 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I pay a hundred a kilo and the quality is good so it pretty much is free cause a kilo should last over three months for me.

If I can make money from this kratom that would be cool too.




Yea, no doubt (pretty sure we use the same vendor). It's pretty good money if you're willing to deal with some sketchy people, at least that's the way it is in Miami when selling through CL.

With that said, if I order 1.5kg's and just keep 500g's for myself which is usually the case, I'll end up selling the KG for $400 (in 250g increments). So a $300 profit once a month plus the free 500g's of kratom is not too shabby at all.

I have another 1.5kg's coming in by Friday just to sell. Gotta get on my grind because my new job fishing on a charter boat for a living is just enough to basically pay my bills and put food on the table.


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Second night now, and the shit's got m wired, stayd up all night last nght, slept about 1 hour today, now I'm wide awake.

I don't understand people throwing up off of it, I guess because they have 0 opiate tolerence, as I said b4 mine is skyhigh from painpill use, but this stuff def. helps, it's not near the buzz, but hell when you are out of your meds, this shit helps big time, A lot better then blowing a bunch of money on dope! JK, I don't do that, but know some who do, which this stuff cold help them get off of it, seems to me a better idea then methadone or subs.

Is that CBD oil really effective? I wonder if it would show in a piss test, I would not think so if it is legal to sell




Yea, I just dosed again because I couldn't get to sleep and I'm now wired as well. Off of work tomorrow so it's all good.

BTW, I've thrown up off of it once in my 2+ years of experimenting with krat and that's only because I tried to toss 15g's in one go and it got stuck halfway down my throat. Just stupid on my part.

As far as the CBD goes, no it won't show up in a drug test unless you're getting it from a legal state dispensary (those usually contain around .8% THC).

As far as being effective, it's truly amazing if you have a clinically diagnosed anxiety issue like myself. It just treats it so wonderfully without having any negative side effects like SSRI's and Benzos. As far as feeling something from it psycho-actively, no, it won't alter your state of mind whatsoever. The only thing you'll feel from it is a slight relaxation in your muscles which is why it's effective for pain management as well.

If you're interested in it, the most effective way to consume it is by vaporizing it and it's really fucking expensive to do so. Pretty much 50 dollars or more for 15 doses. Luckily I was referred to a new vendor last week which has really great CBD ejuice for less than half of that price.

Here: http://morguejuice.com/

You'll also need a little vape kit but you can pick a really simple "eGO" vape pen for $10 online. Let me know if you'd like a link to a good one.

Edit: Another benefit of CBD juice is that it completely negates any paranoia you might get from high THC Sativa strains of weed. :thumbup:


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the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk,
mad to be saved,
desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and everybody goes “Awww!”



Edited by kr0nik0 (06/24/15 01:46 AM)


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: kr0nik0]
    #21848816 - 06/24/15 02:46 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks man, just sooo fucking expensive, but I may give  it a try, man I got terrible anxiety, so much that at one point I was taking 12mg. of kpins a day(yeah I was overmedicated, but  was not complaining, LOL)
I now take 8 mg of them a day, and I have been taking them for over 20 years, that they now just make me feel normal, I would have to take an absurd amount just to get high

But man, I got cut off once, and the withdrawals damn near killed me, I would love to find something else that works, but so far no luck, mj helped, but I can no longer smoke due to drug tests


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21848829 - 06/24/15 02:52 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I'm putting my kratom for sale on kijiji.

I have done this before to make some money while enjoying my kratom. I don't know if americans have kijiji but it is like craigslist.


I put it up for twenty an ounce and people pay that and I used to do it before and make lots of money doing it so I am gonna see if I get any luck. Once you get a few customers they usually come back for more.



:strokebeard: so if I put some kratom up on Craigslist you think it would sell pretty easy


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #21848897 - 06/24/15 03:30 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Imperfect Iam said:
Thanks man, just sooo fucking expensive, but I may give  it a try, man I got terrible anxiety, so much that at one point I was taking 12mg. of kpins a day(yeah I was overmedicated, but  was not complaining, LOL)
I now take 8 mg of them a day, and I have been taking them for over 20 years, that they now just make me feel normal, I would have to take an absurd amount just to get high

But man, I got cut off once, and the withdrawals damn near killed me, I would love to find something else that works, but so far no luck, mj helped, but I can no longer smoke due to drug tests




Yea, severe anxiety is a motherfucker. I was diagnosed over 5 years ago it was crippling to the point of not being able to leave my room for a while after my first panic attack. I had a constant dizziness and blurry vision coupled with at least one panic attack a day. I have been prescribed multiple SSRI's, Beta Blockers, and a disgusting amount of benzos (60 2mg tablets of Alprazolam/Xanax) a month since then.

Thankfully I do a lot of research before ingesting any drug, especially rx'd pharmaceuticals so I always just throw away my SSRI scripts and fill my benzos to "have around." I just use them for coming down from a trip, or when coming down form a stim..once in a blue moon recreationally. I'm scared shitless of ever becoming addicted to benzos after going through mild alcohol w/d's before.

The beta-blockers (Atenolol) do help a lot though, and is what I use if I feel a panic attack coming on which is really rare these days. Maybe 1-2 times a year.


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:strokebeard: so if I put some kratom up on Craigslist you think it would sell pretty easy




It's become extremely popular here in the past year because of the whole oxycodone epidemic that happened several years back. All those pill mills that opened up and would just hand out 30mg roxies like candy to anyone that walked in with cash in hand was crazy. Now that they shut all those places down, people are using Kratom to deal with their addictions.

Since this is the case, and most people just buy kratom from headshops at $1 a gram for shitty quality. They jump on my CL ad immediately because to them it's a steal.

Like I was saying though, you deal with some really sketchy people since they are for the most part oxy & heroin addicts.

But yea, man. It sells like hotcakes here, and it might be a bit different where you live but it's worth giving it a shot.


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mad to be saved,
desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and everybody goes “Awww!”



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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: kr0nik0]
    #21850274 - 06/24/15 12:35 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I'm veery tempted to sell some of that Kratom on craigslist.
I must investigate this idea further bc I have no idea why people would spend headshop prices on the stuff.
May as well give them another source, gather some peoples, then drop the craigslist ad and keep it up solely for my regulars.
Kratom's legal, so it's as safe (from the cops) as re-selling apples, yeah?


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: musiclover420]
    #21850300 - 06/24/15 12:42 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I have always thought "less is more" with most drugs, especially when it comes to recreation.

Just tossed my second bit of kratom today, about to play some music briefly before doing some work for a bit. Should be nice
:jamming:




Same here, I try and do the minimal amount needed to achieve an altered state.
With dank ass weed for example, that's usually just a hit lol.


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: space walk]
    #21850570 - 06/24/15 01:45 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

As long as it isn't being sold to substitute an illegal drug then yes it's fine
You just say it's for aroma


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: space walk]
    #21850607 - 06/24/15 01:56 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yes, I think it would be wise to sell it as 'not for human consumption or to treat medical illness'. Also to not mention specifics in the ad. You don't want to draw any unnecessary attention.


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: pslyke]
    #21850759 - 06/24/15 02:34 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah just say it's meant to be mixed with water and rubbed on the skin if they ask for dermatology


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Konyap]
    #21850781 - 06/24/15 02:39 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

What do you guys think about eating kratom everyday? I really wish there was more research on it


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Konyap]
    #21850866 - 06/24/15 02:54 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

When I sell to people through CL I print out a sticker to put on the ziploc bag that says"
"Sold exclusively as an ingredient for soap making or aromatherapy.
NOT FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION".

The bags I get from my supplier say the exact same thing and it always gives me a chuckle so I decided to copy him.


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the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk,
mad to be saved,
desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and everybody goes “Awww!”



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