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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: hex_enduction]
    #21832595 - 06/20/15 02:30 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

toss and wash is gross it always gets stuck to the back of my throat



Get one of these. It takes about 4-5 minutes to fill 24 capsules that hold 550mg each, and that's not going real fast. I used to sit down and watch an hour show on netflix making capsules and would get like 250-300 done


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: hex_enduction]
    #21832596 - 06/20/15 02:30 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Same here. Smooth sailing indeed.

I know a member here that only used the toss & wash method for about a year straight.

He says now he can't even stand the smell of Kratom and the only way for him to ingest it is by making capsules. :shrug:


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: kr0nik0]
    #21832695 - 06/20/15 02:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

That is weird, after using capsules for a long time I have come to notice a sort of aftertaste I get in m throat/ tongue that is very pleasant.

Last time I didn't use capsules it tasted better than I remembered becouse the aftertaste had grown on me.

Keep in mind when I say taste it is almost more of a feeling, reminds me of the aftertaste from smoking cannabis almost.

When I eat a lot of kratom I get burps that taste like seaweed though :lol:


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: musiclover420]
    #21832721 - 06/20/15 03:05 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I like the taste of kratom mixed into yogurt and ice cream. The taste grows on you it is just the texture.


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21832786 - 06/20/15 03:25 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

When your body learns to love/need a substance, I think you learn to love the taste. For example, most people hate taste of bitter, poppy pod tea but I LOVE it.


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: daz01]
    #21832952 - 06/20/15 04:25 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Pod tea is on a whole different level then kratom from what I know though.

It would be like comparing ritalin to crack.


Like I personally have never had a legit nod from kratom before.


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21832983 - 06/20/15 04:34 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I know you dislike Cannabis BC, but kratom with cannabis edibles will make you nod hard.

I've never had a nod from just kratom alone either.
Even heroin rarely made me nod, but I never went to the needle.


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #21833109 - 06/20/15 05:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Acaterpillar said:
I know you dislike Cannabis BC, but kratom with cannabis edibles will make you nod hard.

I've never had a nod from just kratom alone either.
Even heroin rarely made me nod, but I never went to the needle.




Listen, I used to be a stoner when I used kratom. I know how amazing the combo is, I simply just cannot handle weed. It is an off limits drug for me and I haven't done it for over a year and probably won't do it for the rest of my life.

I have had nods from codeine, IV hydromorphone, oxy ect. Kratom keeps me way to awake to even consider nodding.


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21833169 - 06/20/15 05:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Do you not smoke anymore due to a psychological issue?
I'm asking because out of nowhere, I started getting severe panic attacks from high THC/low CBD Sativas. This was about 5 years ago and it scared the shit out of me.

Indicas on the other hand had the complete opposite effect and helped tremendously with my anxiety.

Nowadays CBD oil/tinctures/ejuice allow me to smoke any strain of weed I like with no negative effects.


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: kr0nik0] * 1
    #21833232 - 06/20/15 05:48 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If they ban kratom I'll probably just chop off my nuts.


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21833263 - 06/20/15 05:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Acaterpillar said:
I know you dislike Cannabis BC, but kratom with cannabis edibles will make you nod hard.

I've never had a nod from just kratom alone either.
Even heroin rarely made me nod, but I never went to the needle.




Listen, I used to be a stoner when I used kratom. I know how amazing the combo is, I simply just cannot handle weed. It is an off limits drug for me and I haven't done it for over a year and probably won't do it for the rest of my life.

I have had nods from codeine, IV hydromorphone, oxy ect. Kratom keeps me way to awake to even consider nodding.





Even edible cannabis?

It's much more mellow, and easier to control the dose so that you don't overdo it.


But you know yourself better than anyone else, so I won't argue with your position.


Glad you stopped IVing stuff. :thumbup:


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #21833608 - 06/20/15 07:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I just hate the effects of weed. Too much anxiety way more then stims for me.


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21833613 - 06/20/15 07:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Stimulants have never given me anxiety unless I'm up for days.

Edibles give you anxiety too?
I find it much more relaxing than smoking.


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21833617 - 06/20/15 07:30 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I actually like the taste of kratom. I tastes like tea to me but swallowing a shit ton of powder never sits well haha just have to get it down and you're golden


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #21833663 - 06/20/15 07:42 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Acaterpillar said:
Stimulants have never given me anxiety unless I'm up for days.

Edibles give you anxiety too?
I find it much more relaxing than smoking.




Man overall any weed gives me anxiety now. It never used to be that way and it is what it is.


I get way more medicinal benefit from kratom and it is better to use during school then weed for me.


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21833736 - 06/20/15 08:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Cannabis certainly doesn't help with school. :sadyes:


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #21834068 - 06/20/15 09:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

My kratom just got in. Took an eighth of this red bali about ten minutes after I opened it.
That toss and wash is an interesting idea, and that's how I did it, because I needed some kind of first standard.
I washed it down with some dr pepper.
That powder stuff is definitely NOT water-soluble.
It would definitely benefit from being put in some fruit-on-the-bottom yogurt or a smoothie.

Also, I'm feeling good, but also that 3.5g wasn't really all that great enough.
I think I'm going to go to the store to get some yogurt and some chocolate pudding to... form some new opinions....


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21834249 - 06/20/15 10:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Pod tea is on a whole different level then kratom from what I know though.

It would be like comparing ritalin to crack.


Like I personally have never had a legit nod from kratom before.




I disagree. Everyone reacts differently to different drugs. Some people struggle quitting coffee and nicotine/tobacco.
Some people struggle with benzodiazepines/other GABA related drug addictions. Me? I was able to stop a 1+ year daily Benzo habit damn easy.
Some people struggle with cannabis habits.
Did you hear of the person who commit suicide because of his Kratom habit? Of course, one might say Kratom had nothing to do his with death and there was other underlying causes :shrug: Maybe.

My point is, I would not continue using Kratom under the notion "I can quit anytime, I am not addicted and it isn't as strong as other opioids". :super:


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: daz01]
    #21834465 - 06/20/15 10:46 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I typically use kratom for five or sixth month on, then go off for half a year. I haven't taken kratom regularly for over a year and a half before just recently.

It is easier to quit then tobacco and caffeine. There is slight physical discomfort for a few days and some depression for a few days. It is defs not on the same level as pod tea you can still go to school and work during kratom withdrawal.

From my understanding the pod withdrawal is one of the worst opiate withdrawals known to man.


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21834484 - 06/20/15 10:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Pod tea sounds like a neat tea to try.

I'll look in to it.

In other news, I just decided that "toss and wash" is a terrible method when compared to mixing it in yogurt, eating that quickly, then chasing with some chocolate milk (and a couple of sour patch kids).
This will be my new method. I"m feeling pretty chill atm.
I'm going to go watch Idiocracy.


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