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OfflineBitter Cactus
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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: kr0nik0]
    #21829571 - 06/19/15 07:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Just mix it with some other colored vein dude.

It's good to have white vein for physical labor and homework and working out. I would just keep it. If nobody offers you jack send it to me though.


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21829620 - 06/19/15 07:32 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yea, it's weird.
Last time I had the horned white vein from the same vendor it didn't give me anxiety at all.
I guess it's because I already had a really big tolerance from taking red and green veins for 2 weeks straight before I even touched it.

Last night I mixed 1g of it with 2g's of red and 2g's of green and that was okay but today I dosed green in the morning, red in the afternoon and was feeling wonderful but a bit sleepy. The white was my final dose of the day and I'm just not digging it.

But yea, I'll sell it to someone from the shroomery for $30. Or maybe trade for some cool stuff.

I'm gonna post it up in the Marketplace here as well as craigslist.


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: kr0nik0]
    #21829929 - 06/19/15 08:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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kr0nik0 said:
I dosed 5g's of it  and hour ago. It's super potent but got me all jittery and panicky due to my anxiety issues. I might have to take a small dose of xanax to offset this.





That's just what I was worried about bc of my anxiety.
I'm glad (for my sake, sorry for your anxiety) to know that that can happen.
As for a silver lining.. Maybe this is good. Just dose one gram and see if it gives you a light pep.
You know, maybe you just turned 100 personal doses into 500! lol


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: space walk]
    #21829998 - 06/19/15 08:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

It's all good! :smile:

Put it up in the marketplace here and sold it in a matter of 3 minutes.

Gotta love the Shroomery. :woot:


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mad to be saved,
desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and everybody goes “Awww!”



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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21830021 - 06/19/15 08:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Bitter Cactus said:
I don't see the point of extracts. Why not just take more plain leaf if the effects aren't doing it for you?





Because:

1. It's an interesting project for me.

2. I imagine that even running an alcohol extraction followed by two water extractions I'll still get a slightly different alkaloid profile, and I want to see what it's like. High doses of this leaf cause me a moderate headache, and it's possible some of the nasties are left behind.

This bali was very reasonably priced.


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21830230 - 06/19/15 09:39 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Bitter Cactus said:
I don't see the point of extracts. Why not just take more plain leaf if the effects aren't doing it for you?




As you know in the other thread, powdered Kratom leaf did fuck all for my pod withdrawal. My next step is making Kratom tea, just like pod tea. I'll probably use at least 30g powdered Kratom and drink (SLOWLY) the tea and see if its any good!

Toss and washing 10+grams Kratom leaf sounds horrendous!!


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: daz01]
    #21830262 - 06/19/15 09:46 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I hate toss and wash. I only do it if I have to and can do it really well but it is so much easier just to get your favorite brand of yogurt and mix it in that way.


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21830320 - 06/19/15 10:01 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Lol

Yogurt sounds so much worse than toss and wash


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21830326 - 06/19/15 10:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yogurt method is my preferred method if I were to mix it with anything but I have absolutely no issue with toss & wash by shooting the dose via a shot glass and immediately washing it down with chocolate milk.

It takes some practice to do it right but I'm at a point where I don't taste it whatsoever. The trick is to lubricate your mouth with the chocolate milk beforehand. :smile: Regular milk works great too but..I love chocolate lol.


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the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk,
mad to be saved,
desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and everybody goes “Awww!”



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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: kr0nik0]
    #21830335 - 06/19/15 10:05 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Milk ??!  Yogurt? Wtf guys. Dairy and kratom sounds disgusting. Why not water


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: drr]
    #21830383 - 06/19/15 10:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Dairy for some reason masks the taste far better than water or any water based juices.
The consistency of dairy is what makes it work so well I believe.

I use the Welch's juice blends to wash quite a lot, but that's because I ran out of milk. :P


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the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk,
mad to be saved,
desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and everybody goes “Awww!”



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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: kr0nik0]
    #21830441 - 06/19/15 10:35 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

bout to go to bed, just dosed 2.5g green thai for shit's and giggles. Don't think I've ever dosed before bed other than a g once or twice when i couldn't sleep


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: drr]
    #21830442 - 06/19/15 10:36 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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drr said:
Milk ??!  Yogurt? Wtf guys. Dairy and kratom sounds disgusting. Why not water



ugh water would be horrible.

Of the things to mix it with I found chocolate pudding to be the best. I stick to capsules though, by far the easiest.


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #21830509 - 06/19/15 10:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I don't drink milk. Water works great. I don't taste a thing. The thick consistency of these dairy products... I imagine it sticking to my throat. Pudding? Sounds so lumpy and gritty. I would hate that. :shrug: Whatever works for you though


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: drr]
    #21830535 - 06/19/15 11:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I just got some kratom today from a new vendor I was super excited about, but I don't have any capsules and that is generally the only way I take it:sad:.

The few times I tried it, I got really nauseous doing the toss and wash, and tea is a bit better but isn't exactly tasty. I've also had two glasses of wine tonight on an empty stomach and it made me feel a tiny bit queasy...but I think I'll eat something and proceed with caution and hope I won't end up in puke city or something.

Has anyone here ever brewed kratom with an espresso machine? I tried it and got decent results, but that was shitty kratom from amazon and it was a bit lackluster(and tasted just as shitty), so I think I'm gonna try it again, but if anyone has any suggestions on how to make it not taste so much like ass, that'd be appreciated.


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: pirate-blues]
    #21830754 - 06/20/15 12:12 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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luvdemboomers said:
Quote:

drr said:
Milk ??!  Yogurt? Wtf guys. Dairy and kratom sounds disgusting. Why not water



ugh water would be horrible.

Of the things to mix it with I found chocolate pudding to be the best. I stick to capsules though, by far the easiest.




I actually have to try the chocolate pudding idea.


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pirate-blues said:
I just got some kratom today from a new vendor I was super excited about, but I don't have any capsules and that is generally the only way I take it:sad:.

The few times I tried it, I got really nauseous doing the toss and wash, and tea is a bit better but isn't exactly tasty. I've also had two glasses of wine tonight on an empty stomach and it made me feel a tiny bit queasy...but I think I'll eat something and proceed with caution and hope I won't end up in puke city or something.

Has anyone here ever brewed kratom with an espresso machine? I tried it and got decent results, but that was shitty kratom from amazon and it was a bit lackluster(and tasted just as shitty), so I think I'm gonna try it again, but if anyone has any suggestions on how to make it not taste so much like ass, that'd be appreciated.




I personally find that toss and wash gives me more nausea then mixing it in yogurt. I just find the powder hits your stomach so hard that way. I also don't like how I can't eat my 5 gram dose in one mouthful doing toss and wash. Once I mix the kratom into my yogurt, it takes less then ten seconds for me to eat even a seven gram dose. I just find it to be the easiest way.

I am defs gonna try the chocolate pudding thing. Also, if you have no yogurt try getting vanilla ice cream, melting a small amount in the microwave for ten seconds so that it is a yogurt like consistency then mix the kratom in and enjoy. It actually makes the kratom taste good that way.


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21832243 - 06/20/15 12:32 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I like to sometimes keep the kratom in my mouth formed as a little snus pouch, I'll have that either above or under my tongue or
sometimes both. I let the saliva seep in and extract the alkaloids and then kind of suck out the k. juice & swallow along with
water. I like to spit out the remains once the K has been fully dispensed of all that has to offer, you get a bet of a numbing
effect from all of the alkaloids and it's pretty easy to tell when it has been depleted.  The taste isn't too bad at all,
though its a must to chase to water or some type of drink as the extracted k. juice is how you might imagine, wicked.

It's actually not that bad but lately I find it easier to just wash and toss. Ideally I get to get the kratom to form a snus pouch shape by
putting a pile of K on top of my toungue and allowing the saliva to mix in a bit and then press the kratom between the roof of
my mouth and tongue forming a solid shape that can be sucked on to extract the alks.; it also keeps your mouth from getting coated
in powder and makes it easier to consume imo, though does take more time.  I haven't tried the tea though I could see it being hit or miss in its effectiveness. Kratom snusing is pretty chill, I've gotten use to the process and is kind of like how one might view having a cup of coffee to be like.

I personally don't like the idea of ingesting kratom leaf all the time, especially in larger amounts, though I mostly keep my dosages pretty low.
Its good to keep the body clean and I see no real benefit of eating raw kratom except for the fact that it is convenient, though like I said
I've been doing it more often for the convenience. I am going to try to dial in some tea this evening, mix it with some of my regular tea to aid
to the taste.


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Atreyu]
    #21832453 - 06/20/15 01:47 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Kratom is pretty great stuff, I've been eating it pretty much every day for a few months, been getting worse and worse about taking days off and my tolerance is suffering as a result but oh well :shrug: Might as fucking well since it'll probably get banned in my state soon. Damn shame as it does help improve my quality of life.


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sunshine said:
Tragic.  I told the cop not to do it but he didn't listen.


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: hex_enduction]
    #21832517 - 06/20/15 02:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Toss and washing lots of Kratom and burping.. ugh... FUCKING DISGUSTING!!:feelsbadman:


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: daz01]
    #21832559 - 06/20/15 02:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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daz01 said:
Toss and washing lots of Kratom and burping.. ugh... FUCKING DISGUSTING!!:feelsbadman:



You get used to it quick :shrug: but I go through phases of being absolutely fucking disgusted with the toss and wash routine. Lately it's been smooth sailing though


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oh ive cried on drugs

sunshine said:
Tragic.  I told the cop not to do it but he didn't listen.


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