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musiclover420
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Try a red vein from a good vendor then, or an extract of the more opiate like alkaloids.
Extracts will make your tolerance go up much quicker but if you don't get enough effects from the plain leaf it could do the trick.
I personally find kratom pretty strong, even in smaller doses. But I am pretty susceptible to drugs in general.
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Shroomslip
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Is it off limits to ask for a good vendor? Would hate to order some bunk stuff and later find out that was the problem and not the kratom itself.
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Bitter Cactus
reformed bad boy


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Shroomslip said: Is it off limits to ask for a good vendor? Would hate to order some bunk stuff and later find out that was the problem and not the kratom itself.
If anyone has any questions about kratom feel free to message me. 
Oh and I have taken opiates in the past like some of you guys here. I have even shot up hydormorphone and taken a fair amount of oxy in my past.
Obviously those drugs get you way higher, but I prefer kratom because the effect is more rounded. It would be like comparing smoking weed to only ingesting the THC. Also to me I get pretty immediate effects from kratom and I know the time line it will work and I am used to it's strength. When I toss and wash a dose I can literally feel warmth radiating from my body within literally sixty seconds.
Kratom is just a better every day thing and that is what I use it for. If someone offered me oxy now I would say no fucking way I do not want to mess up my kratom tolerance that is one million percent more important to me then just getting high.
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daytripper05
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Rebelutionsssss said:
Kratom works for most people. I never got into opiates heavily so when I do eat them it doesn't take much. It's not going to make you nod out if that's what you're hoping for but it will take away anxiety and just give you an all around sense of well being. I absolutely love the stuff
Pretty much. Some of my friends don't feel the effects. They would rather take an adderal or something else. Blows my mind, because IMO kratom is 10x better than adderal. Personally I like the stimulating effects from Kratom, not the sedating parts. So I keep my doses low.
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kr0nik0
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As musiclover420 pointed out, blends are where it's at. I get both the stimulating aspects which last for a good 2+ hours as well as the sedation after that.
Current combo in my system is 2g's Red horned, 2g's Green Malay, 1g White horned. (My Shipment came in super early this morning, delivered at 9:07 )
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Konyap

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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: kr0nik0]
#21823080 - 06/18/15 10:40 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I felt something the first time I tossed and washed but since then I haven't felt much really with these gel caps
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kr0nik0
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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Konyap]
#21823110 - 06/18/15 10:49 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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What was the dose the first time? And do you have a tolerance (even slight) to any traditional opiates?
I really don't enjoy ingesting Kratom via gelcaps. It makes my tummy feel funny. Toss and wash all day!
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Konyap

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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: kr0nik0]
#21823137 - 06/18/15 10:58 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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it's weird I thought it might be because the adrenaline of guzzling down poopy juice but I really did have a sedating feeling that lasted a couple hours and i thought it was cool to not have to piss every five seconds
I think I put two table sppons in a bottle then I poured the OJ into another bottle and drank that
I've been using like 6gelcaps the past few days and i get bored and smoke so i completely miss the high
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kr0nik0
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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Konyap]
#21823203 - 06/18/15 11:24 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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6 gelcaps have little to no effect on me as well. That's probably only around 2-2.5g's. Depends of course on the size of the caps.
You don't need to measure out precisely but 2 hefty tablespoons is 5g's+ which should get you that sedation you seek.
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plektheplek



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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: kr0nik0]
#21823217 - 06/18/15 11:29 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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The Vietnam strain was the only one that made me feel like I was on a heavy painkiller
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Konyap

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i dunno i just found a site that said that they test there's but it was like 2x more expensive, oh well
at least beer is like 20bucks and I can pretty much get that for free
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Atreyu
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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Konyap]
#21823375 - 06/18/15 12:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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There is sponsor kratom vendor on here- I've ordered from them before, they had good prices and selection.
Some strains and batches of strains are better/more effective than others, red seems to be pretty decent.
I've had some really good green strains before but lately they have been pretty bunk, red is were it's at.
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plektheplek



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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Atreyu]
#21823387 - 06/18/15 12:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Atreyu said: There is sponsor kratom vendor on here- I've ordered from them before, they had good prices and selection.
Some strains and batches of strains are better/more effective than others, red seems to be pretty decent.
I've had some really good green strains before but lately they have been pretty bunk, red is were it's at.
Yeah the strain plays a big factor on whether or not you're going to have a good experience
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Konyap

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does anyone want to check this out? https://www.change.org/p/florida-governor-keep-kratom-legal-in-florida
these people might be really necessary in the future...
Edited by Konyap (06/18/15 02:10 PM)
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pslyke
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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Konyap]
#21823939 - 06/18/15 02:40 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Illyabo said: does anyone want to check this out? https://www.change.org/p/florida-governor-keep-kratom-legal-in-florida
these people might be really necessary in the future...
I signed it and added the following note:
Kratom provides me with pain relief superior to many prescription medications with fewer side effects. I have used kratom for 3+ years intermittently without issue. Public policy needs to not only consider safety, but also come from a place of compassion. Restricting ones choice of how they treat chronic pain or depression for ideological reasons is inhumane. Please respects peoples freedom to choose.
Years ago I wrote an well thought out opinion piece about decriminalization of pot in Canada. In this piece I got very passionate. Well... as it turns out, what I wrote got picked up and published by a large Canadian news paper giving credit to me (I signed my name). It also ended up on line on the home page of a compassion club based in toronto. I never authorized use of this piece and didn't even know this happened until one day I googled myself. For several years if you googled my name this piece that I wrote would show up. FUCK! I am a professional and people google everyone now days. I was mortified that this showed up. It seems to have disappeared though--phewww.
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kr0nik0
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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: pslyke]
#21824007 - 06/18/15 02:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Please, everyone that posted on this thread sign that petition to keep Kratom legal where I and many fellow Shroomerites live.
Only 120 more signatures needed. We can make this happen so lets. Thank you.
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FreeTheSoul
The wonderer.
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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: kr0nik0]
#21824034 - 06/18/15 03:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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kr0nik0 said: Please, everyone that posted on this thread sign that petition to keep Kratom legal where I and many fellow Shroomerites live.
Only 120 more signatures needed. We can make this happen so lets. Thank you.
While a petition may be helpful, I think getting a group and having everyone send letters to your state senator would be better.
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kr0nik0
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You're absolutely correct.
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Konyap

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FreeTheSoul said:
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kr0nik0 said: Please, everyone that posted on this thread sign that petition to keep Kratom legal where I and many fellow Shroomerites live.
Only 120 more signatures needed. We can make this happen so lets. Thank you.
While a petition may be helpful, I think getting a group and having everyone send letters to your state senator would be better.
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Bitter Cactus
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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Konyap]
#21825302 - 06/18/15 08:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Wow this kratom is lovely.
I think I prefer the Bali to the Borneo though. I took my evening dose which is 2.5 grams and I feel great.
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