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OfflineTybg
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Kratom, WOW
    #21748158 - 06/01/15 12:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I just tried this for the first time. 1/2 of Bali powder from kraken kratom. All I can say is... WOW. This stuff IS codeine. A good amount of euphoria and a  nice opiate warmth feeling. If yall havent done so already, TRY IT!


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Tybg] * 2
    #21748171 - 06/01/15 12:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I'm on it now bro. Welcome to the big dick club it feels great doesn't it.

I have done it over a thousand times and it still feels so good man.


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21748180 - 06/01/15 12:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I must place an order and join in on this. Kraken kratom? Is this a source


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Astral Pain]
    #21748185 - 06/01/15 12:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Dude it's the best. It's my favorite drug of all time I have been doing it years on and off and it is the shit.

Super good for energy, productivity and anxiety.


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21748195 - 06/01/15 12:17 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Looks more expensive than what I was expecting. How much is an effective dose of the powder? Just mix it in a drink of choice?


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Astral Pain]
    #21748216 - 06/01/15 12:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Is there a big difference in the types? I have heard the Maeng Da is the best from other sources but the price does not reflect this. I guess it's a personal preference, no?


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Astral Pain]
    #21748222 - 06/01/15 12:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

yes Kraken Kratom, its a shroomery sponser so I can say it. And I mixed it with hot water, hoping to make a tea from it, but it was terrible, so I mixed it with yogurt after remembering someone recommend that on another thread, and wallah!


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Astral Pain]
    #21748230 - 06/01/15 12:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I think it depends on what type you get, I've heard some acts like caffiene, and others like codeine


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Tybg]
    #21748258 - 06/01/15 12:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

The mental aspect is cool, but I'm more interested in the actual pain relief. I suppose the codeine variety may be my best bet. Which ones would have that effect?


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Astral Pain]
    #21748293 - 06/01/15 12:34 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Astral Pain said:
Is there a big difference in the types? I have heard the Maeng Da is the best from other sources but the price does not reflect this. I guess it's a personal preference, no?




Depends on the vendor.
The most potent strain I've had over the years was a Maeng Da from a vendor that isn't around anymore but the most potent ones I had last time ordering was a Red Horned strain. The Maeng Da from that same vendor had 4% less alkaloids per gram. Potency has a lot more to do with the maturity of the plant when harvested as well as properly storing it before resale.

The only thing you really need to know is:
Red veins - More for pain & also more sedating
White veins - Gives you a lot more energy
Green Veins - Kind of a mix of both Red & White so somewhere in the middle

The only way to know its potency is if your vendor offers Alkaloid Concentration/Content info sheets with your order. I wouldn't ever order from a vendor that doesn't provide one again.


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Astral Pain]
    #21748298 - 06/01/15 12:35 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I read bali is most like codeine, and I would agree. It definitely has the pain relief aspect of it


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Tybg]
    #21748322 - 06/01/15 12:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

It makes no difference where it's from. Be it Thailand, Bali (Indonesia), Malaysia, or another area in SE Asia.

All red veined strains from any of those locations are geared more towards pain relief. There are minor changes in color/taste between different nations but the general effect is the same.


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Astral Pain]
    #21748408 - 06/01/15 01:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Astral Pain said:
Looks more expensive than what I was expecting. How much is an effective dose of the powder? Just mix it in a drink of choice?




If you like it you can get a key for like $100 so it really is pretty cheap. A dose for me is about a heaping spoonful. Two spoons full and I'm puking. Mix it in a water bottle that is only filled 25%. Put the lid on and shake it for a minute. Let it sit for a couple minutes, shake it quick if it seperates, then drink it down and make sure you have some water to chase it with. It tastes nasty and can get caught in your throat.
It seems like most people who use it regularly use Bali


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Tybg]
    #21748420 - 06/01/15 01:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Tybg said:
yes Kraken Kratom, its a shroomery sponser so I can say it. And I mixed it with hot water, hoping to make a tea from it, but it was terrible, so I mixed it with yogurt after remembering someone recommend that on another thread, and wallah!




I don't like the krakratatat that much but I found the best drink for toss and wash was chocolate milk.  It's the only thing I found that effectively covers the taste.


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #21748432 - 06/01/15 01:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I'm sure every vendor is different, but with my vendor,  white Sumatra is the strongest followed by green Malay. Both were more euphoric for me than any red vein strain I've tried,  fwiw


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #21748434 - 06/01/15 01:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Mango odwalla juice puree. I swear it tastes good! You won't even have to choke it down. You'll never try anything else I promise.


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Tybg]
    #21748474 - 06/01/15 01:21 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Kratom is the best everyday supplement next to cannabis IMO.

What strain did you try OP? I'm a big fan of the Red Vein variety but all strains have their unique magick to them.


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Sham87]
    #21748496 - 06/01/15 01:25 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I personally love the green strains . It's a great balance of energy and body buzz.


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: kr0nik0]
    #21748540 - 06/01/15 01:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

kr0nik0 said:
Quote:

Astral Pain said:
Is there a big difference in the types? I have heard the Maeng Da is the best from other sources but the price does not reflect this. I guess it's a personal preference, no?




Depends on the vendor.
The most potent strain I've had over the years was a Maeng Da from a vendor that isn't around anymore but the most potent ones I had last time ordering was a Red Horned strain. The Maeng Da from that same vendor had 4% less alkaloids per gram. Potency has a lot more to do with the maturity of the plant when harvested as well as properly storing it before resale.

The only thing you really need to know is:
Red veins - More for pain & also more sedating
White veins - Gives you a lot more energy
Green Veins - Kind of a mix of both Red & White so somewhere in the middle

The only way to know its potency is if your vendor offers Alkaloid Concentration/Content info sheets with your order. I wouldn't ever order from a vendor that doesn't provide one again.




Thanks for the info. How long do the effects typically last?  I may try two different kinds, but I wouldn't want to be all jacked up at night. Maybe I'm over thinking it a bit here. I'll just place an order and test the waters myself.


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Re: Kratom, WOW [Re: Tybg]
    #21748565 - 06/01/15 01:39 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I just tried 5 different types for the first time the past few weeks. Red is def the most sedating and "opiate like".

White def gave me energy and a good social kinda buzz, and the green does seem like a mix of the two as stated above. My tolerance is huge due to an IV heroin addiction, I wish I had tried it before I had a tolerance so I could say with confidence what the effects are likely to be for the average Joe.

My favourite was a red Bali (Indo) followed by a white LTM, although I used them for very different things.

Certainly a very cool herb though, but it is likely to be banned very soon in the UK along with anything else "psychoactive", ANYTHING ELSE. Insane law, we elected a bunch of fucking idiots.

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