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Update on B+ and Ecuador Tubs
#21747631 - 06/01/15 08:23 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Alright guys it's day 14 for the B+ and it started to pin yesterday! This is super fucking exciting! I can't believe I have managed to come this far with this tub, this experience has been so friggen amazing!! 
Thank you so much to everyone who has helped me out, the wonderful people whom I've met throughout my experience, the extensive knowledge that this forum holds and continues to progress and to SBJ for his wonderful writeups whom have guided me throughout this grow!
Seriously guys I am so friggen ecstatic about this! This forum is starting to feel like home and for once, I feel I am starting to feel like I belong somewhere!
Question; I am spraying with water with a fine mist, directly on the substrate and not the wall correct? 
Here are some pictures of the pins coming out From the looks of it looks like I'm getting some weird genetics already



Unfortunately the Ecuador tub is not so well and I believe I have been strikken by trich. Burn this shit right?
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Re: Update on B+ and Thai Tubs [Re: Rosen_Rot]
#21747649 - 06/01/15 08:28 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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throw out the thai, yes.
what happened to your b+ man? it looks bacterial, ropey and full of dark metabolites. it looked so nice and white in your last thread 
just a little tip, next time just update your original thread, it would've made it easier to go back and check the prev pics of the same tub!
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Re: Update on B+ and Thai Tubs [Re: spacechildo]
#21747657 - 06/01/15 08:32 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I sprayed water a little too fast and a little too close and I think I might have bruised it a little bit. It turned that way instantly when I started spraying. I think it was just the water.
Alas, my poor Ecuador, I had such high hopes for you
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Re: Update on B+ and Thai Tubs [Re: Rosen_Rot]
#21747664 - 06/01/15 08:36 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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The b+ looks wet. Mist a little less aggressively next time lol. Give it a day or 2 and take out the top holes for now
Thais done. Definitely trich
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Re: Update on B+ and Thai Tubs [Re: Rosen_Rot]
#21747696 - 06/01/15 08:52 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Rosen_Rot said: I sprayed water a little too fast and a little too close and I think I might have bruised it a little bit. It turned that way instantly when I started spraying. I think it was just the water.
Alas, my poor thai, I had such high hopes for you 
its not the bruising, its the dark yellow metabolites and the thick ropey growth. I think I'm maybe a bit confused over which tub is which, I thought your thai was the 10 days ecuador tub.
is this the same b+ tub? http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21728020#21728020 I really dont like how its looking now.. give it lots of FAE and 5-15 mins of direct sunshine every day and hope for the best! also stop misting it for now.
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Re: Update on B+ and Thai Tubs [Re: Mad Season]
#21747701 - 06/01/15 08:53 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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How do I clean out the tub properly now that I disposed of the cake? So far I've just run with a power head full of hot water and dried it off using a towel.
Do I take out the polyfil from the top holes in my B+ ??
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Re: Update on B+ and Thai Tubs [Re: spacechildo]
#21747705 - 06/01/15 08:54 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Rosen_Rot said: I sprayed water a little too fast and a little too close and I think I might have bruised it a little bit. It turned that way instantly when I started spraying. I think it was just the water.
Alas, my poor thai, I had such high hopes for you 
its not the bruising, its the dark yellow metabolites and the thick ropey growth. I think I'm maybe a bit confused over which tub is which, I thought your thai was the 10 days ecuador tub.
is this the same b+ tub? http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21728020#21728020 I really dont like how its looking now.. give it lots of FAE and 5-15 mins of direct sunshine every day and hope for the best! also stop misting it for now.
Oh my god I'm such a fucking idiot. I've mixed up the names 
Yes yes I have Ecuador and B+. The Thai syringe is still in the fridge lol
God damn I'm such an idiot, I'm not even high I shall go and re-word my previous posts haha
Pity I can't change the thread name.
Also seriously, it was looking as white as snow before I started spraying and this was my first spray. I sprayed too close to the sub and I managed to crush down the Tomentose Mycelium. The rope is Rhizomorph Mycelium/ The yellowish tinge you're looking at is from the CVG mix. As soon as I started spraying it turned into that. I just sprayed very aggressively as all the wall and lid of the tub were so smooth and dry.
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Re: Update on B+ and Thai Tubs [Re: Rosen_Rot]
#21747714 - 06/01/15 09:01 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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sure you can. just edit the OP! 
names doesnt matter to me tho, just remove most of the top hole poly, or turn your fan up higher if you use one. sunshine is magic and FAE is bacterias enemy!
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Re: Update on B+ and Thai Tubs [Re: spacechildo]
#21747723 - 06/01/15 09:04 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'll turn up the fan up on high then. Also the lid is not the tub's original lid and it's got some ridging on the inside. Seeing as it obviously does not fit it's created these small air holes between the lip of the tub and the ridged lid.
I think I should be fine. How long should I leave the fan on high?
I shall shower first before I decide to go in the room. That trich tub has got me all paranoid now
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Re: Update on B+ and Thai Tubs [Re: Rosen_Rot]
#21747732 - 06/01/15 09:08 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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keep the fan on 24/7. I wouldn't worry too much about the trich, a simple walk in a forest brings home way more trich spores than any contamed tub will.
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Re: Update on B+ and Thai Tubs [Re: spacechildo]
#21747736 - 06/01/15 09:10 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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This is my last tub before the season closes for me. I don't have AC so I have to stop for the summer before I can start growing again. I really wanna see a second flush lol
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Re: Update on B+ and Thai Tubs [Re: spacechildo]
#21753014 - 06/02/15 02:16 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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The tub actually dried up pretty quickly from the excess water. When is it a good time to mist?
I didn't mist today but I think I will put the fan on back low
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Re: Update on B+ and Thai Tubs [Re: Rosen_Rot]
#21753028 - 06/02/15 02:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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When it isn't glistening and just let the mist fall. I usually mist like a foot above the lips of the tub until it's glistening again. It's better to mist lightly and have to mist again 3 hours later over misting too much
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Re: Update on B+ and Thai Tubs [Re: Mad Season]
#21753035 - 06/02/15 02:21 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Cheers man that's the kinda answer I was looking for will mist tomorrow morning
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Re: Update on B+ and Thai Tubs [Re: Rosen_Rot]
#21753232 - 06/02/15 03:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm not looking to hijack here, but my question is pertinent here and I would think it better than starting another annoying question thread:
From the first hyphal knots to my first flush, I had lots of water beads on the surface. Things seemed perfect. Now into my second flush, the surface is not so wet looking. Normally I'd mist, but I was advised that my tub was most likely too wet (many tiny mushrooms; few got more than two inches tall)...
So I'm asking: Should the surface of the sub stay glistening through the entirety of the fruiting stage? Or would some say to wait for certain indicators to commence misting a monotub, and if so what shoudl we be looking for?
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I keep mine glistening all the time. You want it glistening with no pooling water at all. That's why you mist from very far away and let it drop evenly across the surface. You only normally need a few spritz.
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Re: Update on B+ and Thai Tubs [Re: Mad Season]
#21753374 - 06/02/15 03:46 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thanks my man. Good to hear.
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Re: Update on B+ and Ecuador Tubs [Re: Rosen_Rot]
#21755836 - 06/03/15 01:41 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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More pins are starting to pop up and I'm freaked out a bit with the genetics So weird!
Looks like it's recovering well after my aggressive mist but I think the CVG stained the myc


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Re: Update on B+ and Ecuador Tubs [Re: Rosen_Rot]
#21755845 - 06/03/15 01:44 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Looks like matabolites to me.
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Re: Update on B+ and Ecuador Tubs [Re: mushmagic]
#21755853 - 06/03/15 01:47 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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It isn't. The tub smells like fresh mushrooms and continues to smell like fresh mushrooms. The coloring came after I sprayed very close to the sub in an aggressive manner.
If the tub had that many metabolites I doubt it would continue to smell like fresh mushies
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Re: Update on B+ and Ecuador Tubs [Re: Rosen_Rot]
#21755860 - 06/03/15 01:51 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Metabolites wouldn't mean it can't still smell like fresh mycelium. Also sometimes metabolites just seem to happen it doesn't necessarily mean it's fighting something off.
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Re: Update on B+ and Ecuador Tubs [Re: mushmagic]
#21755864 - 06/03/15 01:53 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Also most of wat I see in the pics (besides wat I beleive to be metabolites) just look like exposed grains at the surface of the sub.
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Re: Update on B+ and Ecuador Tubs [Re: mushmagic]
#21755879 - 06/03/15 02:00 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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In that case it's most likely a response to my aggressive misting as I might have damaged it. That was a mistake on my part. Tbh at this point I'm happy I have some fruits
A few exposed grains is alright and casing isn't necessary in a monotub. I've inquired about this a couple of times and always got the same response.
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Ghatti said: So we know for hard fact that uncased grains do not fruit well.
So why do some of you who don't case continue to leave exposed grains when you mix your subs up?
Because not putting a top layer my tubs colonize in 7-10 days max, with no negative effect of fruiting.
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Ghatti said: I know its preference and all but have you ever thought "uncased grains don't fruit well, lemme take 3 seconds and cover this up" ?
Nope......it was never that "exposed grains don't fruit well", it was more like "exposed grains will dry out and contaminate easily".....but they don't dry out when they are surrounded by moist bulk substrate...so skip the top layer of substrate and enjoy the sped up colonization times lol.
Which btw it did in 7days. Same tub.
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Re: Update on B+ and Ecuador Tubs [Re: Rosen_Rot]
#21755886 - 06/03/15 02:03 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Wasn't saying there was anything wrong, was just stating that I beleive that was the other color you were seeing if you weren't just referring to the metabolites.
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Re: Update on B+ and Ecuador Tubs [Re: mushmagic]
#21755891 - 06/03/15 02:05 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I've had a few responses where I was told I was wrong at leaving exposed grains "it won't fruit" "you fucked up" "noob" ....etc etc etc 
But yeah I get what you mean. I get it all the time when I go to check "Oh jesus I got metabolites... no... wait... it's just grains! "
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Re: Update on B+ and Ecuador Tubs [Re: Rosen_Rot]
#21756153 - 06/03/15 05:31 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have a ton of these guys. Starting to think it's not just genetics and more a sign of some sort of imbalance in the microclimate.
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Or perhaps it's what happens when the sub stalls, fruits start to revert back to myc due to humidity or FAE or something, and then fruiting re-commences.
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wow ive never once seen a stalled sub revert back.. how would you go about reviving it?
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Re: Update on B+ and Ecuador Tubs [Re: Rosen_Rot]
#21756219 - 06/03/15 06:09 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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hey rosenrot, the yellow stuff in the middle of this pic is deff metabolites.

dark metabolites like that often indicate there's something else growing in your tub too. the best way to take care of it is max FAE, stop misting for a while, and 5-15 min of direct sunlight every day.
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Rosen_Rot said: I've had a few responses where I was told I was wrong at leaving exposed grains "it won't fruit" "you fucked up" "noob" ....etc etc etc 
dont listen to those replies 
only thing you can do now is just hope for the best. why the metabolites showed up right after you misted I'm not sure, but I'm pretty confident it has nothing to do with your misting.
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Re: Update on B+ and Ecuador Tubs [Re: spacechildo]
#21756228 - 06/03/15 06:17 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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from the look of pics i would have swore you used hpoo as the sub from the rhizo look of the myc and the metabs!
either that or a hidden contam in the sub?
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Re: Update on B+ and Ecuador Tubs [Re: spacechildo]
#21756255 - 06/03/15 06:34 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Meh I have maxed out the FAE but I am worried I will dry out the tub. The polyfil is off from the top holes and the fan is on MAX. Putting it in the sun is just going to dry it up even more.
If there was something growing in the tub wouldn't there be an indication such as a smell? The smell is off fresh mushrooms and nothing else. I think the metabolites showed up cause I damaged/shocked the mycelium.
From what I read, metabolite is like an antibiotic and it is a response to heal. Couldn't it be possible that this response was due to it being damaged from too close of a misting?
God damn it man I was so closed and I just fucked everything, I was so happy too
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Re: Update on B+ and Ecuador Tubs [Re: Rosen_Rot]
#21756259 - 06/03/15 06:36 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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dont worry either way..
sometimes subs with hidden contams sometime can surprise you with the biggest flush you ever had
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Re: Update on B+ and Ecuador Tubs [Re: Rosen_Rot]
#21756268 - 06/03/15 06:39 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Rosen_Rot said: Meh I have maxed out the FAE but I am worried I will dry out the tub. The polyfil is off from the top holes and the fan is on MAX. Putting it in the sun is just going to dry it up even more.
If there was something growing in the tub wouldn't there be an indication such as a smell? The smell is off fresh mushrooms and nothing else. I think the metabolites showed up cause I damaged/shocked the mycelium.
From what I read, metabolite is like an antibiotic and it is a response to heal. Couldn't it be possible that this response was due to it being damaged from too close of a misting?
God damn it man I was so closed and I just fucked everything, I was so happy too 
yeah dont dry it out, just give it as much FAE as you are comfortable with. somewhat drying of the surface will help keep bacteria at bay, and the sun is magic in so many ways so just a little every day will do.
you dont necessarily smell a small amount of bacteria, there's plenty more cube myc to be smelled you know! stressed sub from hurting it wouldn't have such dark metabolites IME.
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Re: Update on B+ and Ecuador Tubs [Re: mustangbob3]
#21756270 - 06/03/15 06:40 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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That's encouraging thank you man
So far the fruits don't look too great and the blobs on the caps is starting to make me think that I am doing something wrong and it's not just genetics either.
I am following spacechildo's advice maxed out FAE, stopped the misting and giving it 5-15mins of morning sunlight everyday.
From the pictures though, it's starting to look like the myc is recovering and taking over once again. It was yellower before when I misted the first time.
This is mind boggling, I was so sure I was in the clear but I guess that's my mistake I'm such a fool
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Re: Update on B+ and Ecuador Tubs [Re: Rosen_Rot]
#21756281 - 06/03/15 06:46 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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solid advice  follow it, but i would say a couple hours sun wouldnt hurt and may be beneficial for what you are trying to achieve
i could be wrong dont worry yourself, its just the general look of the mycelium screams to me hpoo or if its coir that myc is responding to something.
if it was hpoo you often have metabs too and in this case it would be fine aslong as its not drowning the surface
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Re: Update on B+ and Ecuador Tubs [Re: mustangbob3]
#21756295 - 06/03/15 06:51 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'll try and post pictures everyday on how my tub is doing and then perhaps you can give guidance on when I need to mist or not as I have no idea.
I was under the impression that I should up my misting and ensure the sub is glistening with droplets but in this case that method does not seem to apply and I am lost for now so I do need help from you guys who grew before
Thank you, to all of you, I really appreciate all of your help and support in this 
Even if it fails, this has been educational and thought me better control for next time
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Re: Update on B+ and Ecuador Tubs [Re: Rosen_Rot]
#21756324 - 06/03/15 07:07 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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let it dry for a while but not too much ( a few hours sun with out misting should do the job) you dont want the sub to dry just the surface
then resume a normal misting schedule like suggested above by space to keep it at the appropriate level..
space will not steer you wrong 
once surface is dry mist till it glistens all over and then repeat when these beads have mostly evaporated to return it to fully glistening again 
repeat as needed
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Re: Update on B+ and Ecuador Tubs [Re: mustangbob3]
#21759986 - 06/04/15 01:06 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Update of the B+ tub. Mushrooms are getting bigger and fast and also more pins started to show up
I gave it about 20mins of direct sun light in my balcony today. Below are pictures straight after I took them out of the sun.
This is Day 6 from introducing FC




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Re: Update on B+ and Ecuador Tubs [Re: Rosen_Rot]
#21760704 - 06/04/15 08:35 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Can the light brown caps be harvested yet?
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Re: Update on B+ and Ecuador Tubs [Re: Rosen_Rot]
#21764473 - 06/05/15 03:10 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm no expert but I'd wait at least until the veil starts to tear if not longer. I've found my fruits add significant size if left to flatten out. Not always but sometimes. This seems particularly true when the tub is producing sparsely like that.
Just don't wait so long that they drop spores.
Regarding the mutation, I'm having a lot of mushrooms with the same problem. I'd love to know if it's environmental...
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I love that ball on top...lol... I've seen that in a few grows on here... it's fuckin cool.
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Re: Update on B+ and Ecuador Tubs [Re: LocN9ne]
#21764495 - 06/05/15 03:32 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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as suggested above i would wait till the veil breaks before harvesting any mushrooms this will allow the best potency.
have you been keeping up with the misting schedule as recommended by space?
on them pics i would say it looks a little dry in there imo 
remember after a few hours when most of the beads of moisture have evaporated mist again.!! dont listen to others timings for misting everyones conditions are different and require differing amounts, use your eyes and listen to what the sub is telling you! if you need to mist 5 times a day as it evaporates fast do it!! it needs it. dont worry some people only need 2-3 they might live in a more humid enviroment. mist it well and dont be afraid, cover the whole surface with beads of moisture everytime you do it! as long as the water is evaporating it will do no harm its only sitting water that will become stagnant and lead to contams. as long as there is a cycle of evaporation you have no worrys about misting it will only do good. and dont spray the walls like so many do... spray the myc just if your mister is powerful do from a foot or two distance and let it rain down on the myc instead of directly at it as to avoid bruising.
for brevity... whenever there is no beads of moisture on the surface of your sub you are losing moisture from inside of it. you dont want to lose the moisture from in the sub as this is need for fruits as they are around 90% water. replacing surface moisture not only conserves the water levels in the sub but also keeps an evaporation cycle that help your mycelium achieve pinset as its the most important trigger at this time imo.
you want constant evaporation from the surface but not at a cost to the substrate water levels and this is acheived by misting as needed
Edited by mustangbob3 (06/05/15 03:52 AM)
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Re: Update on B+ and Ecuador Tubs [Re: mustangbob3]
#21764648 - 06/05/15 05:47 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have been taking the tub out every day for approx 15-20mins in direct morning sunlight and then misting a little bit afterwards but only once a day.
I have been very discouraged from misting ever since the whole metabolite incident. I wasn't sure since I was told to let the surface dry in order not to encourage any contaminants from growing. I wanted the myc to take over and recover.
What signs should I be looking for in order to know that my tub needs a mist?
I mist using a small spray bottle and about a foot away from the surface. Problem is, when I mist, since I crushed the fluff-myc, the water collect in pools and there is barely any glistening anymore
Evaporation is good. It barely stays "wet" for an hour since the fan is on high
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Re: Update on B+ and Ecuador Tubs [Re: Rosen_Rot]
#21764653 - 06/05/15 05:51 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Take a close up picture with your phone and the flash on... you'll see the tiny bb's of water all over it...if you don't then mist....that's what I do when I'm having trouble figuring out when to mist...lol kinda lame but eh I do what I do
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Re: Update on B+ and Ecuador Tubs [Re: LocN9ne]
#21764656 - 06/05/15 05:53 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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See the little bb's
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Re: Update on B+ and Ecuador Tubs [Re: Rosen_Rot]
#21764662 - 06/05/15 05:55 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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imo except for i would ditch the fan i cant really say any more than i did in the last post tbh 
if its pooling your misting too much.. just a few good squirts to cover the whole surface in a fine mist is needed.
refer to my last post as to when ect. 
EDIT tbh i dont think the metabs was cause from misting and space only recommended drying it up a bit if the pooling was extreme and as a benefit the bac would have a harder time with the drying and the sun maybe a lil too. once that was sorted (dryed up a bit) you needed to resume a normal misting schedule as explained above  but sort your poly fill too raise your fae above normal as this too will hinder the bacs progress. and when you say you take it out... out of where? it needs 12 hours light a day really your not hiding it away in the dark all the time are you?
i would also look for a ajustable pump up sprayer they are great(cheap too) for a nice fine mist and easy even application. just spray above the tub and let it rain down covering the surface in fine mist
like this one- http://www.brooklyntrading.co.uk/p-10985-garden-plant-pump-pressure-water-weedkiller-chemicals-sprayer-15l.aspx?utm_source=google&utm_medium=Product_Search&utm_campaign=google_base&CAGPSPN=pla&gclid=CKvnj4rD-MUCFafJtAods3wADg
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Re: Update on B+ and Ecuador Tubs [Re: mustangbob3]
#21764685 - 06/05/15 06:13 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I take it out of the vivarium where it gets 12hours of light from a 6500K CFL on a timer. That's what I mean by "taking it out"
I thought space suggested it cause of the metabs since sunlight does wonders to monotubs. I believe it was also space that suggested to put the fan on high in order to max my FAE
Thanks for the advice guys, I'll see what I can do and keep you guys posted
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Re: Update on B+ and Ecuador Tubs [Re: Rosen_Rot]
#21764692 - 06/05/15 06:18 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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uv rays from the sun have some antibac properties but imo that would not cure anything in your sub only on the surface if anything tbh
i think he meant that by maxing fae( by the fan or adjusting polyfil) and not misting for a while the pools of metabs would dry and become controlable and the sunlight would help this process. the increased fae combined with the sunlight as a by product will hinder the bacteria also 
but defo resume misting and ditch the fan soon as you have contol over the pooling metabs 
really was a long winded way to do it. i would have just used tissue to soak up the pooling to get rid of the excess and carried on misting from the start but thats just me
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Re: Update on B+ and Ecuador Tubs [Re: mustangbob3]
#21765476 - 06/05/15 11:14 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Just harvest my first 3 shrooms 
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Re: Update on B+ and Ecuador Tubs [Re: Rosen_Rot]
#21765485 - 06/05/15 11:17 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Haha not your first fruits ever though right? Nice nipples haha. My first ever fruits were green capped LOL. Potent as balls too. Wish I had it or cloned it.. I'm angry I was so noobie back then haha
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Re: Update on B+ and Ecuador Tubs [Re: Rosen_Rot]
#21765487 - 06/05/15 11:18 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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wtg

they look way bigger and meatier now they out the tub! 
hope you enjoy
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Re: Update on B+ and Ecuador Tubs [Re: Mad Season]
#21765498 - 06/05/15 11:23 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yes actually these are my first ever fruits.
I never grew mushrooms before and this was my first attempt.
I left some of the stem still attached to the sub as I had sliced it with a scalpel. I had read you shouldn't pull the off the substrate. Is it okay to leave part of the stem still attached to the sub?
It has stained so blue!! 
I think my tub is already stricken with trich though :/ Not sure if it's bruising or trich. There are still loads of mushrooms that are still growing.
This was rather....anti-climatic lol
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Re: Update on B+ and Ecuador Tubs [Re: Rosen_Rot]
#21765511 - 06/05/15 11:26 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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If it looks like it isn't part of the mycelium, and has a Sandy powdery look, it's trich. Take a pic if you want .
Stumps are fine. Bruising is a good sign :P
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Re: Update on B+ and Ecuador Tubs [Re: Rosen_Rot]
#21765517 - 06/05/15 11:28 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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pull or cut the choice is yours  either is fine.
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Re: Update on B+ and Ecuador Tubs [Re: Mad Season]
#21765522 - 06/05/15 11:30 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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It has no powdery look to it, no blobs or anything like that. It just looks like it's part of the mycelium. This turquoise pimple pushing upwards lol
I'll post some pictures tomorrow
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Re: Update on B+ and Ecuador Tubs [Re: Rosen_Rot]
#21777123 - 06/08/15 02:35 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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*UPDATE*
Just made another harvest It's not a second flush just some shrooms that were a day behind in fruiting. It yielded a good 120g 
I fell in love with their coloration :3 It's just like on the internet! 

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Re: Update on B+ and Ecuador Tubs [Re: Rosen_Rot]
#21777127 - 06/08/15 02:39 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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so pretty!
way to go! 
have you sampled any yet?
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Re: Update on B+ and Ecuador Tubs [Re: Rosen_Rot]
#21777144 - 06/08/15 02:49 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I also stayed around messing with some photography on my favorite one. This little guy was small but absolutely perfect. I'm going to dry and preserve it and add it in a scrap book "My first mushroom" 

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Re: Update on B+ and Ecuador Tubs [Re: mustangbob3]
#21777151 - 06/08/15 02:53 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Unfortunately no, I'm having some legal issues and I need to stay clean for a while but I gave most of my harvest to people cause sharing is caring.
I did get some feed back though. They went to a psy-party and said they really enjoyed themselves, the trip was very mellow compared to acid and they frequently commented on how "natural" their state was. Visuals were mild, colors were intensified and their state of mind was unexplainable. They just felt really comfortable on them. It lasted 4hours in intensity and then started to come down. I gave them around 30g wet weight
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Re: Update on B+ and Ecuador Tubs [Re: Rosen_Rot]
#21796892 - 06/12/15 10:56 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Just harvested this fat guy, he was the last to come out from the first flush. Second flush is underway, 2 pins so far and it's been two days since the dunk. The cake looks disastrous lol
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Re: Update on B+ and Ecuador Tubs [Re: Rosen_Rot]
#21796927 - 06/12/15 11:05 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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they often do after harvest especially if you had a spore drop from the odd fruit.
it should recover fine 
fingers crossed for you for the next flush
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Re: Update on B+ and Ecuador Tubs [Re: mustangbob3]
#21800293 - 06/13/15 12:23 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah I really messed up on my first mono cake but so far the Gods have been good to me. Thank you man I'm holding my breath for the second flush, I really want it come out It's like supporting some one in labor "Come on, push baby push! You can do it! Just push!"
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Re: Update on B+ and Ecuador Tubs [Re: Rosen_Rot]
#21800340 - 06/13/15 12:42 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
Rosen_Rot said: I gave most of my harvest to people cause sharing is caring.
Karma baby!   
Mush success to you
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