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PussyFart
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Re: Am I Understanding this correctly? Advice please [Re: mustangbob3]
#21755903 - 06/03/15 02:12 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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You seem to have an ego the size of Texas.......
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mustangbob3
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Re: Am I Understanding this correctly? Advice please [Re: PussyFart]
#21755907 - 06/03/15 02:19 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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nothing to do with ego... how can having an opinion and standing by it as you have not proved it to be wrong and then standing up for myself when being bullied be misconstrewed as ego?? you say silly things just to try to tarnish my words and you cant take them down with your own knowledge. it seems its you who has ego and a sore one at that! insulting or trying to insult my ego does nothing to take away your wrong words and only gains the support of muppets  attack me on the original argument or cant u stick to that you have to constantly divert it?? just standing up for my beliefs and not letting people making out im saying shit im not!!
not my fault you cant read ,keep context and keep the whole argument in mind so have to carefully cherry pick your battles.
leading you to look a dick with no brain!!
remember bobo- 'smarter than the average fucking bear'
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Edited by mustangbob3 (06/03/15 02:27 AM)
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mustangbob3
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Re: Am I Understanding this correctly? Advice please [Re: mustangbob3]
#21755910 - 06/03/15 02:23 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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and first thing you replied to me...
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mustangbob3 said: light will trigger the formation of hyphal knots in a bag or jar long before any FAE is given!!
you said...
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No it won't......
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PussyFart
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Re: Am I Understanding this correctly? Advice please [Re: mustangbob3]
#21755929 - 06/03/15 02:39 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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And I stick by it....light doesn't trigger anything......enough.....no more of this in this thread.....
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Edited by PussyFart (06/03/15 02:43 AM)
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mustangbob3
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Re: Am I Understanding this correctly? Advice please [Re: PussyFart]
#21755938 - 06/03/15 02:46 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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yes only your opinion no proof... i gave you lots of supporting evidence to back up my reported opinion!!
you have shown the value of your knowledge too even showed u how your knowledge contradicts itself!!lol
a silly person who is faced with contradiction and doesnt realise there must be something a miss with his opinion.
put that contradiction to the back of your mind... it might hurt after a while
that TC tag dosent make you right or others opinions wrong!! look at guideline for that there tag...
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It doesn't mean that those without the tag are not to be listened to or respected for their advice and opinions, but rather that those with the tag have repeatedly proved to the staff here that they're competent to answer questions and give advice. Hopefully, this will take some of the burden off the moderating staff to try to read each and every thread. RR
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/8903929
Seems you dont think others can have or voice their opinions unless it agrees with your own and other opinions are somehow invalid.
imo you dont deserve that tag. you got experience and skills yes, but your crap with people or with teaching and mostly see fear in and threat in any opinion that is not ur own
finally im going to relay some advice you gave me 3 months ago.. i suggest you take you own...
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If you cannot prove it when challenged, you may want to think twice about giving advice.....
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21281414#21281414
Edited by mustangbob3 (06/03/15 03:33 AM)
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PussyFart
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Re: Am I Understanding this correctly? Advice please [Re: mustangbob3]
#21756008 - 06/03/15 03:42 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ok....I will use the search function for you....then no more of this in this thread.....you want facts and proof?
Lets start off with opinions from professionals, who do this for a living.....maybe their opinion is worth more than mine....
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RogerRabbit said: Light anywhere on a substrate will help trigger pinning anywhere else on the substrate where conditions are right, such as in the gap around the edges. However, fresh air exchange is the biggest pinning trigger. Cubensis will pin in total darkness if given fresh air exchange and full colonization. Light helps the mushrooms grow to full size and weight after pinning. RR
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RogerRabbit said: Mushrooms do not just use light as a pinning trigger. Light is only a secondary pinning trigger. Mushrooms do however use light as a source of energy, and this is why they tend to orient their caps towards it: to receive the maximum possible energy from the light. RR
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14802329#14802329
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RogerRabbit said: Light is merrily a secondary pinning trigger, considering P cubensis will pin in total darkness. The main benefits of proper lighting come after pinning when light can help the mushrooms double or more in weight and other qualities. RR
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17163857#17163857
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RogerRabbit said: Light and fresh air are required for fruits to develop to full size and potential. However, they're not required for pins to form. Some strains will pin right at full colonization whether they're out of the jar or not. RR
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19432564#19432564
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LeopardMan said: Mushrooms will grow even in total darkness, but with poor results. To the OP: when growing cubes the most important pinning triggers are FAE, full colonization and evaporation of water from the substrate. Temps and humidity are important as well, but not as important as the first ones. Furthermore a drop in temperature at night is absolutely normal and can even be beneficial. IME a very high RH (over 95%) is required only once pins have appeared. During the first 5 or 6 days 90% will be more than enough.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/12340811#12340811
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Citric said: Secondly light on its own may not be enough to initiate pinning, but it IS a pinning trigger.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/10846152#10846152
Now....no more discussion about this here.....create a new thread, with a poll about the light situation if u like.......just not here.
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THIS HOBBY IS NOT FOR THE IMPATIENT! PLEASE BE PATIENT, DON'T BE A PATIENT! A Tale of 10 Isolates, GT Cluster Clone Monotubs, RR's Let's Grow Mushrooms DVD, SGFC(Shotgun Fruiting Chamber), Monotub Tek, Damion5050's Coir Tek, TL's Tek List, Frank's Tek List, EvilMushroom666's Pasteurization Tek, How It Should & Shouldn't Look - NEW CULTIVATORS GUIDE *** *** AFGHAN KUSH GROW LOG *** ***
Edited by PussyFart (06/03/15 03:43 AM)
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Inocuole
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Re: Am I Understanding this correctly? Advice please [Re: PussyFart]
#21756014 - 06/03/15 03:46 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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mustangbob3
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Re: Am I Understanding this correctly? Advice please [Re: PussyFart]
#21756021 - 06/03/15 03:50 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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most of what you put agrees with me!! are you mad!!
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RogerRabbit said: Light and fresh air are required for fruits to develop to full size and potential. However, they're not required for pins to form. Some strains will pin right at full colonization whether they're out of the jar or not. RR
read what i said and shifting of responsabilitys of stimuli...
rr says the same thing in them quotes.
the only reason he classes it as secondry(his opinion) is because they will pin in dark if other stimuli is missing or inadeuet lol
i explained how i incorporate this in to my opinion its not my fault your reading skills are crap
he says the same as me!!
re-read what i said a a 'whole' not indiviual groups of words.. that way what i say will have 'context' a very important thing when chatting on the internet and not face to face.
just for brevity's sake here is a taster of what i said-
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so there is enough evidence to say light is effective to be used as a pinning trigger but in conjunction with a balance of other stimuli but cannot be said to be less or more important as responsibility shifts if it is not optimal, satisfactory or missing all together.
i think u will find this sums up the whole thing and even RR agrees on it too!!
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RogerRabbit said: Light anywhere on a substrate will help trigger pinning anywhere else on the substrate where conditions are right, such as in the gap around the edges. However, fresh air exchange is the biggest pinning trigger. Cubensis will pin in total darkness if given fresh air exchange and full colonization. Light helps the mushrooms grow to full size and weight after pinning. RR
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Citric said: Secondly light on its own may not be enough to initiate pinning, but it IS a pinning trigger.
this is what i said too. full colonised+ consolidated +light helping iniciate pinning(hyphal knots)... conditions allowing the right place for these to become pins!!
like i said i think u will find its water tight
and for that reasoning i will continue to colonise in light for the percieved gift of a smoother transition into fruiting and a bountiful harvest 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
Edited by mustangbob3 (06/03/15 05:31 AM)
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lutherarkwright93
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Re: Am I Understanding this correctly? Advice please [Re: mustangbob3]
#21756190 - 06/03/15 05:50 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Nobody is gonna read this shit.
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mustangbob3
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Re: Am I Understanding this correctly? Advice please [Re: lutherarkwright93]
#21756196 - 06/03/15 05:56 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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i didnt write it for show??
i couldnt careless who reads it! i was defending myself and the only people who i care about reading it is the ones who it was between.
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Re: Am I Understanding this correctly? Advice please [Re: buttermycoface]
#21756212 - 06/03/15 06:04 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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you're all over the place bob, try quitting while you're still behind..
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buttermycoface said: I was washing jars drilling holes and stuffing them with poly for like 5 hours yesterday. Was great fun.
I went to the pet shop and couldn't find WBS but I found a lot of different seeds and they not very expensive so I am going to make my own mix of seeds.
Another thing, The 70% rubbing alcohol I got yesterday is like a green colour and smells like hospital, is that the right shit? I think they added something to make it green?
Nice find on the cheap grains! Have you tried a feed store yet? I'd imagine pet stores' seeds/grains are way more expensive than at a store that sells food in bulk for larger animals like horses.
idk about the green ISO, mine is clear like water, called antibac surface cleaner. anyway, as long as its 70% alcohol I can't imagine it being wrong
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buttermycoface


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Re: Am I Understanding this correctly? Advice please [Re: spacechildo]
#21756377 - 06/03/15 07:32 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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spacechildo said: you're all over the place bob, try quitting while you're still behind..
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buttermycoface said: I was washing jars drilling holes and stuffing them with poly for like 5 hours yesterday. Was great fun.
I went to the pet shop and couldn't find WBS but I found a lot of different seeds and they not very expensive so I am going to make my own mix of seeds.
Another thing, The 70% rubbing alcohol I got yesterday is like a green colour and smells like hospital, is that the right shit? I think they added something to make it green?
Nice find on the cheap grains! Have you tried a feed store yet? I'd imagine pet stores' seeds/grains are way more expensive than at a store that sells food in bulk for larger animals like horses.
idk about the green ISO, mine is clear like water, called antibac surface cleaner. anyway, as long as its 70% alcohol I can't imagine it being wrong 
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Climbhigher
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Re: Am I Understanding this correctly? Advice please [Re: buttermycoface]
#21756446 - 06/03/15 07:59 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Are you sure that green stuff isn't like a detergent? I use to use an antiseptic solution that was green to clean my ambulance. It would be good to wipe everything down, but I wouldn't want to apply it liberally to everything, it would be a mess. Put some on your finger, see if it's slippery.
Edited by Climbhigher (06/03/15 08:01 AM)
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Re: Am I Understanding this correctly? Advice please [Re: Climbhigher]
#21756503 - 06/03/15 08:23 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Dude he's talking about the isopropyl alcohol that's dyed green for some weird ass reason. If anything it has some kinda methyl something in there or other, but I can't remember what it is. I believe it just makes it smell minty.
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Climbhigher
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Re: Am I Understanding this correctly? Advice please [Re: Inocuole]
#21756603 - 06/03/15 09:07 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ya I thought he might of been talking about this stuff http://firstaidsupplystores.com/green-soap-antiseptic-cleanser-250-ml-3/
Never seen that "wintergreen" ISO before, minty ISO, weird... I personally like the smell of regular ISO lol.
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Re: Am I Understanding this correctly? Advice please [Re: Climbhigher]
#21756827 - 06/03/15 10:33 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah I think it's pretty dumb, personally. Why do that to isopropyl?
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Climbhigher
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Re: Am I Understanding this correctly? Advice please [Re: Inocuole]
#21757176 - 06/03/15 12:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: Yeah I think it's pretty dumb, personally. Why do that to isopropyl?
Tastes better?
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Re: Am I Understanding this correctly? Advice please [Re: Climbhigher]
#21757233 - 06/03/15 12:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Climbhigher said:
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Inocuole said: Yeah I think it's pretty dumb, personally. Why do that to isopropyl?
Tastes better? 
-------------------- "No great mind has ever existed without a touch of madness" - Aristotle "I have just three things to teach: Simplicity, Patience, Compassion. These three are your greatest treasures." - Lao Tzu "You've just gotta keep on keepin' on, man. You can't have 'no' in your heart" - Joe Dirt ThirtyCigarettes said: "All I know is every other thread I see in the Cultivation forum goes like this: QUESTION > ANSWER > DIFFERENT ANSWER > ARGUE > TC COMES AND CLEARS IT UP"
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Re: Am I Understanding this correctly? Advice please [Re: Myconin]
#21759935 - 06/04/15 12:32 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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It's not slippery, its just a minty smell, and it says wintergreen on the bottle, it evaporates really fast and makes everything cold where it touches the surface.
I take that it should be fine.
Thank you for feedback.
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