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Urgent, need help.
    #21747062 - 06/01/15 01:19 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

So I have been extremely manic. I havent slept in 5 days, I am vomiting, hearing slight auditorial halluciantions, and completely wide awake. I take 1200 mg of lithium on the daily, along with 300mg of seroquel xr, and 200mg of modafinil. Today I finally decided to try and drug myself to sleep with 5mg of klonopin and 200mg of quetiapine, and it didn't even do shit to me. How do I sleep


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Re: Urgent, need help. [Re: MushyMatt]
    #21747078 - 06/01/15 01:25 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If you cut off your capillary and airway at the same time for 4 seconds you'll pass out. It's called a blood choke or something. Otherwise maybe...weed? But why are you up? What'd you do? Nothin?


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Re: Urgent, need help. [Re: King Klick]
    #21747082 - 06/01/15 01:28 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

noooo, don't pass out.

Go to the doctor man it could be like encephalitus or something.
wait monafidil keeps u awake doesn't it?


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Re: Urgent, need help. [Re: teamkiller]
    #21747089 - 06/01/15 01:31 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I've been doing something every day, going to the river, fishing, bonfires, got drunk, and just never have fallen asleep. I've tried forcing myself to sleep and nothing. I don't have any herb or I would try that route


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Re: Urgent, need help. [Re: MushyMatt]
    #21747091 - 06/01/15 01:32 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

And modafinil use to, but I've been on it now to the point where I don't have the stimulant effect.


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Re: Urgent, need help. [Re: MushyMatt]
    #21747102 - 06/01/15 01:38 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Shit man...if you've been up 5 days and doing all that shit you really need to go to a doctor.


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Re: Urgent, need help. [Re: MushyMatt]
    #21747105 - 06/01/15 01:40 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Holy shit. 5mg of Klonopin should have done the trick.


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Re: Urgent, need help. [Re: Astral Pain]
    #21747112 - 06/01/15 01:41 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I have an appointment with my psych on tuesday. Hopefully I will get sleep by then, gunna take another 5mg of klonopin and see how it goes


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Re: Urgent, need help. [Re: Astral Pain]
    #21747114 - 06/01/15 01:43 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Give it some time. How long ago did you take the first dose?


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Re: Urgent, need help. [Re: MushyMatt]
    #21747116 - 06/01/15 01:44 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

When I was big into meth and had nothing to knock me out I'd usually just go into a dark room, jack off for a few hours and play some quiet music to overpower the voices and lay down for a few hours to try to sleep.


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Re: Urgent, need help. [Re: Astral Pain]
    #21747117 - 06/01/15 01:44 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Give it some time. How long ago did you take the first dose?



7 hours, 5mg is my average dose


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Re: Urgent, need help. [Re: MushyMatt]
    #21747121 - 06/01/15 01:45 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Bro  just get really drunk and go to sleep.


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Re: Urgent, need help. [Re: MushyMatt]
    #21747122 - 06/01/15 01:45 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Chew it up with your front teeth and put it under your tongue. It will hit you really quick


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Re: Urgent, need help. [Re: Astral Pain]
    #21747124 - 06/01/15 01:46 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Guarantee this mother clucker is blacked out.


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Re: Urgent, need help. [Re: King Klick]
    #21747125 - 06/01/15 01:46 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Shit man...if you've been up 5 days and doing all that shit you really need to go to a doctor.



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Re: Urgent, need help. [Re: Astral Pain]
    #21747126 - 06/01/15 01:48 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I suspect there is a mystery ingredient to all this


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Re: Urgent, need help. [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #21747127 - 06/01/15 01:49 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Don't wait for an appointment man, get your ass to an emergency room. 5 days is not fucking normal, especially since you're on enough fucked up psychiatric medicine to drug a small town.


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Re: Urgent, need help. [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21747130 - 06/01/15 01:50 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I've stayed up six days without sleep several times he will be fine just go to sleep buddy.


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Re: Urgent, need help. [Re: Astral Pain]
    #21747133 - 06/01/15 01:51 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I suspect there is a mystery ingredient to all this



I am bipolar 1, and I think I'm just pretty fucking manic


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Re: Urgent, need help. [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21747135 - 06/01/15 01:52 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I've stayed up six days without sleep several times he will be fine just go to sleep buddy.




Stupid ass advice. Just because you were fine doesn't mean he doesn't have encephalitis.


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Re: Urgent, need help. [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21747145 - 06/01/15 01:56 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I've stayed up six days without sleep several times he will be fine just go to sleep buddy.




Stupid ass advice. Just because you were fine doesn't mean he doesn't have encephalitis.


I just looked that up and I do have a lot of those symptoms. I was extremely nauseous earlier today and ended up vomiting after drinking a Gatorade. I also think that the symptoms are just caused by the lack of sleep


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Re: Urgent, need help. [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21747148 - 06/01/15 01:57 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

BC, you did meth to stay up, thats different. None of us even understand why he is still awake so we can't give him good advice.

Go to a doctor.

I have kind of weird shit happen like this too but it always put into motion by dosing/re-dosing dex amphetamine all day, just for one day and then for some reason i'll be up for 2-3 days straight unable to sleep. Most recently this happened and i couldn't even get to sleep with a 10mg dose of ambien. Luckily i had GHB around and 6 grams of GHB got me to sleep, but then 4 hours later i woke up, then the next night i couldn't sleep so i had to take some GHB again...4 hours later back up and wide awake. If i didn't have the GHB i would have just been up the whole time. The time before that was from dropping acid and mixing in amphetamines.

I am guessing OP's dopamine levels are through the roof...that would also explain the hallucinations. Not good.


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Re: Urgent, need help. [Re: MushyMatt]
    #21747150 - 06/01/15 01:58 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Is brain swelling something you want to risk though? I think you should get it checked out for sure.

Better safe than sorry having your brains leak out of your ears


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Re: Urgent, need help. [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21747157 - 06/01/15 02:02 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Scary shit.


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Re: Urgent, need help. [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21747161 - 06/01/15 02:04 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I'll mention it to my doc tomorrow. Gunna try putting on dark side of the moon and put in headphones and see if the music and guide me to sleep. Just thought of this, I think it's genius. It just might work.


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Re: Urgent, need help. [Re: MushyMatt]
    #21747171 - 06/01/15 02:08 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Sending you my good vibes, but I really wish you'd just head to the ER tonight..


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Re: Urgent, need help. [Re: MushyMatt] * 2
    #21747177 - 06/01/15 02:11 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

"If you are experiencing a medical emergency, hang up and dial 9-11"


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Re: Urgent, need help. [Re: MushyMatt]
    #21747184 - 06/01/15 02:18 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Do you think the seroquel helps you? It may not be the culprit here as it seems to make people pass out, but damn that's a hella demonic feeling drug - unless you really think it does - I doubt it's helping... Psyches and doctors prescribe it having NO FUCKING CLUE what so fucking ever what it's like. The exact opposite action of psychedelics... yeah have fun :sad:


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Re: Urgent, need help. [Re: twighead]
    #21747190 - 06/01/15 02:21 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

The same could be said about all drugs in regards to a GP sadly.


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Re: Urgent, need help. [Re: Astral Pain]
    #21747193 - 06/01/15 02:21 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

dude meditation... are you thinking a lot when you try sleep?


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Re: Urgent, need help. [Re: Astral Pain]
    #21747199 - 06/01/15 02:24 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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The same could be said about all drugs in regards to a GP sadly.



True, but I would be surprised if any are as hellish as Seroquel and friends... that one is special in its supreme negative effect.


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Re: Urgent, need help. [Re: Krazent]
    #21747227 - 06/01/15 02:48 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Do you think the seroquel helps you? It may not be the culprit here as it seems to make people pass out, but damn that's a hella demonic feeling drug - unless you really think it does - I doubt it's helping... Psyches and doctors prescribe it having NO FUCKING CLUE what so fucking ever what it's like. The exact opposite action of psychedelics... yeah have fun :sad:


I was on respridone before seroquel and that was hell. Seroquel is absolutely amazing for me. Works very well with lithium.


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dude meditation... are you thinking a lot when you try sleep?



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Re: Urgent, need help. [Re: MushyMatt]
    #21747236 - 06/01/15 02:55 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

i was just saying random disease. If drugs aren't knocking you out, i'd be worried about a physical cause.  I think encephalitus actually makes people sleepy.


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Re: Urgent, need help. [Re: twighead]
    #21747251 - 06/01/15 03:06 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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The same could be said about all drugs in regards to a GP sadly.



True, but I would be surprised if any are as hellish as  and friends... that one is special in its supreme negative effect.




I don't know any specifics regarding that drug and I'm sure it's bad news, but the extent of doctors writing scripts for meds with zero knowledge is alarming. Like ssri's for general anxiety when getting off said drugs is damn near impossible without horrific withdrawals. This is by design no doubt, and aone who has taken one has a story to tell.  http://ssristories.org/


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Re: Urgent, need help. [Re: Astral Pain]
    #21747274 - 06/01/15 03:29 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Oh yeah those SSRI's are really special too :lol: Anti-depressants in general besides less kosher approaches like mxe, mdma, mushrooms... seem to be pretty bad news :lol:


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Re: Urgent, need help. [Re: twighead] * 2
    #21747285 - 06/01/15 03:36 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Especially when you give veterans with PTSD those SSRI's and wonder why they kill themselves.

Doctors are fucking retarded sometimes getting paid way too much for killing people.


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Re: Urgent, need help. [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21747300 - 06/01/15 03:48 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Fuck i hate SSRI's :ohgodpleaseno:


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Re: Urgent, need help. [Re: Krazent]
    #21747307 - 06/01/15 03:52 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

My mother was on anti depressants about a year or two back, I'm not sure what kind they were, but I used to sneak into her room and empty out the capsules whenever I had the chance...

Does that make me a terrible person, or some kind of medicinal vigilante?


I feel like I'm going to get flamed for admitting this, but fuck it.


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Re: Urgent, need help. [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21747317 - 06/01/15 03:57 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)



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Re: Urgent, need help. [Re: Astral Pain]
    #21747346 - 06/01/15 04:28 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

enough with the drugs already.

should be obvious.


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Re: Urgent, need help. [Re: thescientist] * 2
    #21747350 - 06/01/15 04:36 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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enough with the drugs already.

should be obvious.



Only drugs I do is what is prescribed for my mental illnesses.

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Re: Urgent, need help. [Re: MushyMatt]
    #21747373 - 06/01/15 05:02 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Rest up! 5 days is pretty crazy, did the floyd help lul you to sleep? Works for me sometimes but I love floyd to much it keeps me up as well...


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Re: Urgent, need help. [Re: MushyMatt]
    #21747399 - 06/01/15 05:30 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

yeah sleep depp is shit dude. 5 days is a long time to be awake. that feels like almost a week and a half worth of wakefulness.. hopefully OP has gotten to sleep now.


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Re: Urgent, need help. [Re: MushyMatt]
    #21747825 - 06/01/15 10:00 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I've been doing something every day, going to the river, fishing, bonfires, got drunk, and just never have fallen asleep. I've tried forcing myself to sleep and nothing. I don't have any herb or I would try that route




hey matt.

although youre doing things, youre not doing anything that will fatigue the body or mind.

I too suffer from insomnia like a bitch. getting drunk will actually make your insomnia worse in the long run, so I would be careful going down that route.

I would throw on some headphones, and run. run until you can run no more. until you feel like youre going to pass out. fatigue your body to the point of no return. make sure its early'ish in the day, so the adrenaline wears off by nighttime. at night, throw a set of stereo headphones on, and listen to this:



its isochronic tones, which help to promote different brain waves patterns to induce sleep. mix this with some Seroquel and benzos as you have done in the past, and id be shocked to hear that u didn't sleep the night.

give it a shot. at this point, it cant hurt right?

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Re: Urgent, need help. [Re: MushyMatt]
    #21747856 - 06/01/15 10:21 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah, u should definitely go to an Urgent Care immediaately.

Staying up that long can damage the brain.

I find the come down of alcohol helps me sleep, but not sure if drinking alcohol with all your pills u take is a good idea


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Re: Urgent, need help. [Re: MushyMatt]
    #21747946 - 06/01/15 10:58 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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So I have been extremely manic. I havent slept in 5 days, I am vomiting, hearing slight auditorial halluciantions, and completely wide awake. I take 1200 mg of lithium on the daily, along with 300mg of seroquel xr, and 200mg of modafinil. Today I finally decided to try and drug myself to sleep with 5mg of klonopin and 200mg of quetiapine, and it didn't even do shit to me. How do I sleep



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    #21749750 - 06/01/15 06:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Well I slept for 13 hours..


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Re: Urgent, need help. [Re: MushyMatt]
    #21749811 - 06/01/15 06:44 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I've had one manic episode like this, it was the most terrible thing of my life - if there is a hell, that's mine.

I did not go to the emergency room when I had my episode, while the worst of it went away after two weeks(I honestly don't think I slept more than a few hours through those two weeks, I was so scared and so tired but it was impossible to sleep), it took a full month for me to be able to go to bed without having a panic attack, and a month of really intensive therapy to get me back on track. I was fully lucid and aware I was manic, so I was fighting it every step of the way, but mania does not just go away and even if you're extremely self aware and have a lot of insight as to what's happening to your brain - it is a really traumatic experience, and I you're not alone.
I have PTSD so I was having terrible flashbacks and hearing voices outside my windows discussing breaking in, raping, and killing me. That's extremely hard to ignore even when you know it's not real. I woke my roommate up every night and made her sleep on the couch while I sat in on the other one with the phone in my hand, staying up all night.

Don't wait for a therapist.
I highly suggest you call hospital psychiatric departments and see if they're willing to see new patients. Also ask about alternative partial hospitalization, it's usually about two weeks or a little less, and you go to group therapy for like 5 hours a day at the hospital and see a psychiatrist or psychiatric nurse who will work immediately to stabilize you you and set you up with outpatient care after the program is over.

Most people are referred by doctors, or are transitioning from in-patient, but I actually called the hospital on my own and they took me in the next day and I was able to work part time. Aside from that I never have had to be hospitalized or even close for bipolar, and it really changed my view on things and it helped me FAST. The people who are there are very normal and everyone is very nice and accepting, some of them are just coming out of inpatient treatment, and they were all very adamant that it saved their life.


You could also check out this site and see if there's any resources that would be useful to you.
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Re: Urgent, need help. [Re: MushyMatt]
    #21749961 - 06/01/15 07:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Gotta love dat rejuvenation from sleep


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Re: Urgent, need help. [Re: MushyMatt]
    #21750089 - 06/01/15 07:40 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah kind of hard to give advice if we don't really know why you have these symptoms. It is most likely from your medication. Which we really don't know what your on. Guessing K-pins, lithium, and seroquel.

- I'm sure all those will give you insomnia if you stop or try not to take them. Combining that with a frantic weekend of partying your bound to be in the red zone.

You mention you just started seroquel which 1-10% of the population experience insomnia from it. You could also be having withdrawal from risperidone. Something to mention to your doc is that you haven't slept in days.


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Re: Urgent, need help. [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21750113 - 06/01/15 07:46 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Stupid ass advice. Just because you were fine doesn't mean he doesn't have encephalitis.



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    #21750120 - 06/01/15 07:48 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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    #21750131 - 06/01/15 07:50 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

The same thing happened to my friend Tyler.
He was able to find a solution, but sadly, the 1st rule is he's not supposed to talk about it... And the 2nd rule is, he's not supposed to talk about it. :awesketch:


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    #21750135 - 06/01/15 07:51 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Yeah kind of hard to give advice if we don't really know why you have these symptoms. It is most likely from your medication. Which we really don't know what your on. Guessing K-pins, lithium, and seroquel.

- I'm sure all those will give you insomnia if you stop or try not to take them. Combining that with a frantic weekend of partying your bound to be in the red zone.

You mention you just started seroquel which 1-10% of the population experience insomnia from it. You could also be having withdrawal from risperidone. Something to mention to your doc is that you haven't slept in days.





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Re: Urgent, need help. [Re: Gorlax]
    #21750141 - 06/01/15 07:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

yeah when i came off seroquel i couldn't sleep for a few days, which was troubling given that my symptoms are all a result of sleep deprivation and the seroquel would mellow me out and prevent any issues.

but i gritted through it and was alright after that.

fucked myself up with meth a few years later and am getting worse now though fml

also to  knyggaplease, seroquel isnt a stimulant at all its a heavy downer that makes you dopey for a few hours even when you wake up. asif it had a stimulant effect on yourself??


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Re: Urgent, need help. [Re: Soulidarity]
    #21750157 - 06/01/15 07:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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yeah when i came off seroquel i couldn't sleep for a few days, which was troubling given that my symptoms are all a result of sleep deprivation and the seroquel would mellow me out and prevent any issues.

but i gritted through it and was alright after that.

fucked myself up with meth a few years later and am getting worse now though fml

also to  knyggaplease, seroquel isnt a stimulant at all its a heavy downer that makes you dopey for a few hours even when you wake up. asif it had a stimulant effect on yourself??




I know exactly what it is lol,  it's a D2 and 5HT2 antagonist so naturally it should have a heavy downer effect especially because dopamine is converted to noradrenaline...


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Re: Urgent, need help. [Re: KnyggaPlease]
    #21750163 - 06/01/15 07:57 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

right, fair enough. just seems strange cos for me i was doped out on it for sure


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    #21750198 - 06/01/15 08:05 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

everybody reacts to meds differently, its crazy.

ive taken amitriptyline and doxepin which are prescribed as sleep aids, n both of them gave me worse insomnia.

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    #21750306 - 06/01/15 08:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

amitriptyline is the worst drug to ever pass into the market. I honestly can't even see how it could be remotely beneficial to anyone. I've never heard of positive experience from it. Never. lol


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Re: Urgent, need help. [Re: Soulidarity]
    #21750385 - 06/01/15 08:46 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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right, fair enough. just seems strange cos for me i was doped out on it for sure



Hahah, shit made me pass out in the middle of a store and topple all over a beef jerky rack..

But afterwards when trying to rest it was nearly impossible because I was already having waking nightmares before I could even rest a bit...

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    #21750397 - 06/01/15 08:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

hahaha thats funny as lol. but yeah dude the first time i took it i fully had like this night terror brain zap thing. like actual real schitzophrenic symptoms no shit. more then what i had experienced up untill that point. that was only just once though. other then that it just made me dopey and mellowed out - which is good because i'm definitely the bounce off the walls type of personality and go at a million miles an hour naturally

i think taking it daily for 6 months or so messed my liver up a bit too. i had increased liver enzymes. but have been taking milk thistle to balance it out


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Re: Urgent, need help. [Re: Soulidarity]
    #21750549 - 06/01/15 09:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I got off respridone and started seroquel about 4 weeks ago. Started modafinil about 2 weeks ago, and been on lithium for 3 months along with klonopin (as needed).

Medications maybe had a slight role in the mania, but I really do think I just hit a manic cycle and had to let my brain play it out. Ended up falling asleep after redoing 5mg of klonopin and listening to pink floyd.


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Re: Urgent, need help. [Re: MushyMatt]
    #21750589 - 06/01/15 09:40 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

you feel better now??

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    #21750878 - 06/01/15 10:48 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Much better, gunna go take some dabs with some buddies and relax. Refused to take my modafinil today


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Re: Urgent, need help. [Re: MushyMatt]
    #22195448 - 09/06/15 01:28 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The time has come guys. Not now, but it will next year. I promised my daughter I'll take her to disneyworld for her 4th birthday, and after that, it is time to cross sides. I love you all, but its inevitable...


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    #22195462 - 09/06/15 01:34 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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When I was big into meth and had nothing to knock me out I'd usually just go into a dark room, jack off for a few hours and play some quiet music to overpower the voices and lay down for a few hours to try to sleep.



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    #22195481 - 09/06/15 01:43 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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The time has come guys. Not now, but it will next year. I promised my daughter I'll take her to disneyworld for her 4th birthday, and after that, it is time to cross sides. I love you all, but its inevitable...



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    #22195484 - 09/06/15 01:46 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I've stayed up six days without sleep several times he will be fine just go to sleep buddy.




Stupid ass advice. Just because you were fine doesn't mean he doesn't have encephalitis.


I just looked that up and I do have a lot of those symptoms. I was extremely nauseous earlier today and ended up vomiting after drinking a Gatorade. I also think that the symptoms are just caused by the lack of sleep



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    #22195687 - 09/06/15 03:59 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Dude. Don't... You need to get off the drugs. Do whatever it takes besides taking your own life. I can't recommend anything to help make that happen because only you know what needs to be done. Don't take your own life man. This is what the the status quo wants. It needs you dead. Fight it. You are a child of God and you have the power to set this world on fire. Don't waste this opportunity. You are the product of unfathomable odds. And so if everyone you know. Don't give up man. Your life is only beginning.


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So start a forest fire then down myself in ocm? I prefer to not physically harm other on my passing..


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So start a forest fire then down myself in ocm? I prefer to not physically harm other on my passing..





Really?

Well you will. Your friends, your family, your daughter is going to grow up confused and hurt. I can tell you from experience that suicide is like setting off a nuclear bomb in the lives of your close friends and family.

Please re-think how much you actually matter, because I can tell you even without knowing you that it's much, much more than you think. Don't do that to the people in your life, it's incredibly devastating to have a friend or family member depart this world in such a way.


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    #22197916 - 09/06/15 03:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

It's true. Everyone will also think it is their fault. That they should have done more. Including us. Don't do it for us though... Do it for you.


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    #22198071 - 09/06/15 04:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

And for your daughter, do it for her, too. I believe you can pull through this. I'm glad that you're not making any rash decisions now, but I also hope that you're waiting because deep down you think you can come back from this place yourself.

She deserves to have her dad there for her as she grows up. Existing is painful, and as someone who probably struggles with the same thing you do right down to the days with no sleep and the psychosis, I understand. It takes work, but it gets better, if you need medication, there are options out there that are very very benign and have very little side effects present in most people - Lamictal is one, and because of it I'm in remission and will probably be able to go off of it in the near future.
Even if you want to stay away from meds, cognitive behavioral therapy is really really helpful, and there are probably some options if you don't have insurance or means to see a shrink.

It's not gonna be a quick fix. Think of it like any other ailment, it's going to take some time and work to be able to manage your mental health and your problems won't necessarily go away - but remission is very, very possible. You're going to have to make changes in you're life, and you're going to have to change yourself, but you can do it, and you will be so much happier for it. Life is a real motherfucker, but it's beautiful and it's an adventure, and you will get through this and discover it on your own - and because of everything you've gone through, you'll be a stronger, more interesting person who has greater perspective on things.

I'm gonna leave you with a few links, in case you do not have a therapist or doctor and are interested in looking for one. I'm a firm believer in Cognitive Behavioral Therapy and think that literally every single person who can do it, should do it, because if you dive in and really work with your therapist, you'll come out a better and happier person regardless of who you are or what kind of shit you're dealing with.



http://www.mentalhealthamerica.net/finding-therapy

http://www.healthcentral.com/depression/c/84292/70431/money-insurance/

http://www.medicaid.gov/medicaid-chip-program-information/by-topics/benefits/mental-health-services.html

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    #22198309 - 09/06/15 05:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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It's true. Everyone will also think it is their fault. That they should have done more. Including us. Don't do it for us though... Do it for you.




:whathesaid:

I support peoples right to commit suicide and I respect you for not letting it be an impulsive decision. However, suicide is an ABSOLUTE last resort. You only quit if truly nothing works. You don't quit just because it's easier than trying. This is your life, you have a family and people who care about you, you have things in this life that you care about. You owe it to them and to yourself to exhaust each and every option.

Try moving to a new place that appeals to you. Take up some hobby/interest/religion that has always appealed to you. If the drugs aren't helping you (and it sounds like they're not) then gtfo them. Instead try a strict regiment of a healthfreak diet with daily meditation, daily exercise and weekly or even daily therapy consultation. And for god's sake don't let the system trap you. Find what makes you happy, what really speaks to your soul, and DO IT. Fuck anything that stands in your way. You can get around it. I promise you.

No matter what you do man, don't you ever give up without trying. I guarentee you there's something out there that you haven't tried that will make life infinitely better for you.



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Re: Urgent, need help. [Re: CookieCrumbs] * 1
    #22199992 - 09/06/15 10:57 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

hey matt.

I know the feels bro. Im truly sorry that you have to experience this. 3 years ago I drove my car into a river running from the cops in an attempt to drown myself. I was done. if it had not been for a fireman that arrived at the scene n pulled me from the submerged car, I wouldn't be here today.

my point is, you don't have to live like this. Im not saying life is gonna be sunshine and rainbows 24/7, but you certainly don't have to go on with the desire to kill yourself on a daily basis. it starts first with putting the booze/drugs down. as someone whos also mentally ill, and has a severe drug and alcohol addiction, things never really improved for me until I stopped all drugs and alcohol, entirely. like somebody stated above, suicide is always an option. but why even consider it until you've exhausted each and every option? give yourself a chance man. put the booze n the drugs down, give your meds a chance to work. this shit takes time, and I know it seems impossible while youre sitting in it, but if you do the right thing each and everyday, your life is going to improve little by little.

life isn't fair dude. if it were, id be dead. but you have a shot to turn it all around. n its not going to happen overnight, but youre exactly where youre supposed to be right now. things will get better matt, I promise. you just gotta buckle down and give it your all.


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Re: Urgent, need help. [Re: poke smot!]
    #22204048 - 09/07/15 07:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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thescientist said:
enough with the drugs already.

should be obvious.



Only drugs I do is what is prescribed for my mental illnesses.

On side note, this dose of klonopin is workinh. Sleep is imminent!




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The time has come guys. Not now, but it will next year. I promised my daughter I'll take her to disneyworld for her 4th birthday, and after that, it is time to cross sides. I love you all, but its inevitable...




This all sounds like a cop out. I mean, modafinil, and klonopins? You have a drug problem.

Have you ever sincerely tried not taking drugs? Or maybe, just sticking with one, like lithium?



I've been on lithium for 6 months, but thanks for assuming you fuck.


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Re: Urgent, need help. [Re: MushyMatt]
    #22204059 - 09/07/15 07:40 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Does that mean you don't have a  drug problem that though? :lol:


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Re: Urgent, need help. [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #22204081 - 09/07/15 07:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I have an alcohol problem, I can admit that, but alcohol isn't a drug, it's a solution.


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Re: Urgent, need help. [Re: MushyMatt]
    #22204108 - 09/07/15 07:51 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

:justinwilson:

If you really feel that way I don't really wanna hear your bitchin then :shrug:

And this is coming from an alcoholic


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Re: Urgent, need help. [Re: MushyMatt]
    #22204113 - 09/07/15 07:52 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

A doctor prescribed me nearly the same cocktail you've been taking and it fucked me up so hard.  I didn't sleep for months and  I looked like hell.  I ended up in the hospital for a suicide attempt.

Once I got out of the hospital, I stopped taking the meds.  I went cold turkey and I super don't suggest that to anyone because it can fucking kill you.  My body felt like electricity was constantly running through it.  After about 6 weeks, everything cleared up and I didn't want to die anymore.

All's I'm saying is, maybe take a step back and analyze your mental health timeline along with how long you've been on the meds.  Could the meds be making you worse?  It's certainly not outside of the realm of possibility.

Funny seroquel story - When I was in the hospital, they gave this dude so much seroquel, we was walking around like a zombie with his junk hanging out.


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