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Invisibleluvdemboomers
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kratom withdrawal * 4
    #21744954 - 05/31/15 02:17 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

will slamming some dope make it go away?


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: luvdemboomers] * 2
    #21744967 - 05/31/15 02:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Slamming dope makes everything okay, or are you just asking for permission to relapse and shoot up?


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: luvdemboomers] * 1
    #21744969 - 05/31/15 02:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

:scumbagsteve:


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: Adden]
    #21744972 - 05/31/15 02:21 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Dys said:
Slamming dope makes everything okay, or are you just asking for permission to relapse and shoot up?



I just need something to taper off kratom with


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: luvdemboomers] * 4
    #21744983 - 05/31/15 02:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Pretty sure Kratom is used to taper off of other more intense shit.
Mind > Matter ???


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: Spoorman]
    #21744991 - 05/31/15 02:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

yea no shit

I got addicted to loperamide and used kratom to taper off that now I need something to taper off kratom with


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: luvdemboomers] * 1
    #21745003 - 05/31/15 02:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Literally the only thing I can think of is just relax and smoke some bud?
However, if you make bud something you're addicted to as well, you should probably just tell yourself you can do it and go cold turkey. There can't always be a substance to assist you. IMO


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: Spoorman]
    #21745008 - 05/31/15 02:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

think 5 bags of #4 will take the edge off?


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: luvdemboomers] * 1
    #21745017 - 05/31/15 02:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

luvdemboomers said:
Quote:

Dys said:
I just need something to taper off kratom with




I used kratom daily for half a year... i did not get any withdrawals...


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: AIRDOG]
    #21745116 - 05/31/15 03:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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AIRDOG said:
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luvdemboomers said:
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Dys said:
I just need something to taper off kratom with




I used kratom daily for half a year... i did not get any withdrawals...









I'm on a week long break from the leaf atm, after several months of daily use....it's really not that bad. Some not so great sleep for two nights, some lethargy during a few days, some anxiety and feeling a wee irritable for a day or two, and feeling a bit restless and sore for a couple days. All of that is on the mild side and mostly just returning to how I normally feel with out the leaf in my life......Since I use it as an anxiolytic, add med, coffee, and pain killer all in one.




To the OP.....just taper down your daily intake of kratom over 3 to 5 days. When I taper down before taking a break wd is virtually non-existent, just returning to my normal feels.






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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #21745142 - 05/31/15 03:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

yes :syringe:


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: Connoisseur]
    #21745303 - 05/31/15 03:56 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

kratom is like drinking dirty diarrhea water
that's what it looks like when you're trying to filter it

reminded me of these 'special herbs' I got that had no business going anywhere near my mouth


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: Konyap] * 1
    #21745314 - 05/31/15 04:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Or its as simple as eating capsules filled with powdered leaf :lol:


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: luvdemboomers] * 3
    #21745640 - 05/31/15 05:45 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

:classictroll: . . . :peace:


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #21745802 - 05/31/15 06:46 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

luvdemboomers said:
yea no shit

I got addicted to loperamide and used kratom to taper off that now I need something to taper off kratom with



Taper yourself down by decreasing dosage.


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: Magicman69]
    #21745826 - 05/31/15 06:54 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

ya just slowly decrease the dosage over time. I eat about 20g a day and it's probably bout that time I should start tapering myself.


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: LittleDipster] * 2
    #21745830 - 05/31/15 06:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Hi,m my name is Daniel, and I too am a kratom addict. This is a troll thread though, so yeah.


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: danielx]
    #21745849 - 05/31/15 06:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Why do i think this is a troll post

Could always not be a pussy and go cold turkey. Smoke bud when you really need to. Its fucking kratom dude... fucking kratom


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: Mescalean] * 1
    #21745977 - 05/31/15 07:34 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Slam some kratom extract.


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: vinsue]
    #21746025 - 05/31/15 07:48 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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:classictroll: . . . :peace:




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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: Gorlax]
    #21746164 - 05/31/15 08:21 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Gorlax said:
Slam some kratom extract.




Acetylate some kratar and shoot it


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: Connoisseur]
    #21746178 - 05/31/15 08:27 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Krateroin?


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21746222 - 05/31/15 08:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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:classictroll: . . . :peace:







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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: Mental Taco]
    #21746484 - 05/31/15 09:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I stopped kratom cold turkey after I hit rock bottom. At least that's what I tell myself.


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #21746515 - 05/31/15 09:50 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Taper off kratom with kratom?

Seems pretty easy logic.

You must be taking heavy doses to be very addicted; kratom alkaloids have a higher affinity for delta-opioid receptors; which aren't addictive like the kappa opioid receptors (which kratom begins bonding too in very high doses when there are no more available delta-opioids).


For me, getting off kratom was like getting off caffeine.

I'd suggest you taper your dose over a month.
Then go cold turkey, and just have some coffee and cannabis for the first couple of days.


I personally love kratom, and think I will always enjoy a few grams of some potent maeng da occasionally.

I could see myself cutting out cannabis entirely before kratom.


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #21746526 - 05/31/15 09:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

The first time I did jenkem I told myself I was only going to try that, but then I heard about kratom.

Kratom. Not even once.


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: Konyap] * 1
    #21746564 - 05/31/15 10:01 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

has anyone been so far as to really want do look more like shooting mitragynine?


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: Mental Taco]
    #21746811 - 05/31/15 11:21 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Mental Taco said:
Quote:

lets_drive_around said:
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:classictroll: . . . :peace:










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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: musiclover420]
    #21746898 - 05/31/15 11:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Apparently you can smoke kratom.

I estimate I have taken kratom over a thousand times and it still makes me feel good. I take a few months off usually then a few months on and repeat the cycle.

Kratom is one of the best medicines ever especially for depression and ADD. 


I also think it is totally a blue collar drug. It makes you able to lift stuff better and do labour longer.



Oh and for kratom withdrawal just man up dude. I am gonna go through a minor w/d in a few days when I run out and I could care less.


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21746938 - 06/01/15 12:20 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

:trolldance:


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: daz01]
    #21747026 - 06/01/15 01:01 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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:trolldance:




what?


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21747263 - 06/01/15 03:17 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah that may have been the least troll post I have seen from BC, minus the smoking kratom part. Idk about that.


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: musiclover420]
    #21747273 - 06/01/15 03:29 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

pretty sure that was directed at OP, BC was just the last post.


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: Psychedelics yummy]
    #21747276 - 06/01/15 03:32 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Also you can smoke kratom.

You can smoke anything. It just might not do anything :wink:

I've heard different things in seriousness about the effectiveness of smoking kratom, it seems you can smoke it, but to get the effects you need to smoke like, ounces of it in a matter of minutes, not physically possible.


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21747281 - 06/01/15 03:35 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

My thoughts were that certain alkaloids might be smokable, but who knows what conditions they smoke best at and then you miss out on everything else.

Not to mention with all the variance some strains could be smokable and others could not :lol:

Extracts of the specific smokable alkaloid/ alkaloids could work well but it seems like a lot of effort for something you can just eat :shrug:


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: musiclover420]
    #21747290 - 06/01/15 03:41 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I can only imagine how horrible burning kratom would taste as well.


I think smoking an extract might be viable, but the "that's a lot of work" thing doesn't really apply to me, but I can see how it'd be too much to go from leaves to that.

Kratom doesnt do shit to me unless I make my own extract so that's the first thing I do when I get leaf, I just boil everything I buy down with some lemon and lime juice, evap that, scrape it up, and grind it into a powder.

So since I'm already holding an active powder extract I could smoke that and it shouldn't be too disgusting.

Sorry if anyone is hoping I'll be the one to do this for science, because fuck that. You first.


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21747420 - 06/01/15 05:47 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

How effective is kratom on pain? I need something to add to my norcos. I would love to not have to take as many as I do, and I even added some DLPA to the mix a few months ago. That shit worked great right out of the gates for my pain and a little on mood, but I wonder how much better kratom would be.


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: Astral Pain]
    #21747794 - 06/01/15 09:45 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Kratom is like a mini speedball.

My dose is kicing in now with my concerta feels good bro. Love my add meds too.


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21748525 - 06/01/15 01:30 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I sprinkle kratom in my taco shell before I eat so that way I won't want to get up


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21748579 - 06/01/15 01:42 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

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Kratom is like a mini speedball.

My dose is kicing in now with my concerta feels good bro. Love my add meds too.




I will be placing an order tomorrow. Can't wait to try it out and chime in. Shit, I'm getting the feeling this is something I should have started long ago. I'm just waiting for Illinois yo get their shit together with medical marijuana, but it sounds like kratom may take it's place if it's a muscle relaxer.


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: Astral Pain]
    #21748630 - 06/01/15 01:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

get some 000 gel caps and eat like 5 of them with a shit ton of water to wash it down


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: Astral Pain]
    #21749074 - 06/01/15 03:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Kratom is a great muscle relaxed! I took my normal dose yesterday of 5 caps of a mix and felt great all day, then took 3 red vein caps in the evening and wow I felt great. Stayed up til like 2:30+ am playing music before I decided I should lay down and it was heavenly.

I slept like a baby, of course I get super :stoned: too and they go great together but kratom honestly works better for many things for me.


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: musiclover420]
    #21749158 - 06/01/15 03:47 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

It sounds incredible. Weed worked great for relaxation at bed time, but I had to stop due to piss tests from my pain management doc. I can't even watch a fucking movie now without weed. I hope this does the trick, but from what I;m reading it's the bomb.


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: Astral Pain]
    #21749271 - 06/01/15 04:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

It really is :lol: If I take it too late in the day + get super stoned the combo ends up keeping me awak usually, partly becouse I am already on a late schedule and partly becouse cannabis keeps me up sometimes and that + the kratom makes a pretty productive and motivated relaxed headspace where I want to do stuff not lay down and rest. I need to start eating it earlier I think partly.

Whenever I do lay down eventually though it is magical :drooling:


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I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free



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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: Astral Pain]
    #21749275 - 06/01/15 04:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Don't get your hopes up too much. Its a good/useful drug, but nothing really great. I mean its not like a party drug or anything. And I've found it doesn't work on everyone. Make sure your stomache is empty when you try it and good luck


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: Lophosaurus]
    #21749316 - 06/01/15 04:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I honestly prefer eating something with it half the time, as long as it is light.

Just becouse it isn't great for you doesn't mean it won't be for others. I personally get amazing effects off of kratom even in the 2-3 gram range :shrug:

Eating 5-7 capsules and feeling good and relaxed over half the day is pretty great to me...

Definitely does not work for everyone though, I feel blessed by nature. Though I really believe it is from me never fucking with opiates.


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: musiclover420]
    #21749365 - 06/01/15 04:46 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Don't get me wrong. I love the stuff and eat it all the time. Its just with my experience, when I gave some to someone new they thought it would be way stronger than it was. They were expecting it to be like a percocet and then they were disappointed. The effects are more of a subtle feeling for me.


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: Lophosaurus]
    #21749444 - 06/01/15 05:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I have given it to people who compared it to pharms actually, that same person got pretty fucked up off of 5 grams and ended up getting some opiate sickness.

:shrug:

The effects can be pretty subtle for me too but I generally just stick to a couple grams, when I eat more solid amounts the effects can be very pronounced.


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: musiclover420]
    #21750048 - 06/01/15 07:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah I had some and this kid wanted to know what it was like. I had some pretty fire maeng da. He was an ex-heroin addict possibly still doing shit. I gave him 5g and he said it felt just like oxy. He was pretty shocked because he had no clue it existed.

Same goes for my good friends brother. This kid swallows like 6 (10mg hydros) at a time and I have him 5g for his flight back and he was texting me the whole time saying it was amazing and he felt it.


- No use of giving anyone with a tolerance less then 5g in my opinion. I'd be pretty smacked if I did 5g myself. I take 2-3g at a time.


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: Gorlax]
    #21750206 - 06/01/15 08:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

That's impressive the opiate abusers felt it too.

I have noticed those are generally the ones who don't feel it or at least just very weakly.

Also I have noticed people who use pharms are always the ones comparing it to the pharms.

I personally have never tried them so it reminds me more of natural things like cannabis.


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: musiclover420]
    #21750294 - 06/01/15 08:27 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah, it resembles hydrocodone the most imo


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: Gorlax]
    #21750392 - 06/01/15 08:48 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

ugh this thread was a joke but I didn't take any today and cant sleep

downin some red vein in yogurt:awesome:


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #21757451 - 06/03/15 01:32 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If anyone here wants to try kratom, or needs some, I just made a post looking to trade some red vein thai for spore prints. :fonda:


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: danielx]
    #21758341 - 06/03/15 05:40 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I don't know if I'd be able to get by right now without kratom.
No money for painkillers and I've been having a bad flare with my GI tract lately.
I'm only taking a gram a day after I eat and it calms things down enough that I can rest well.
Didn't think this small of an amount would do anything, but it really saves the day.
Lucky to have a good vendor.


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #21758433 - 06/03/15 05:57 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Ya bro I found a good vendor too on the kratom coinesseurs forum.

Just ordered a kilo for a hundred bucks. Going through minor withdrawals and just feel restless and useless. Can't wait to burn five grams of some delicious kratom.


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21758636 - 06/03/15 06:43 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I was suprised the other day to find just a pinch held in the cheek was nice for the dog walk, spit out when we got home.  I try not to swallow the leaf unless it's been freeze-thawed repeatedly for comfort and effect.

I made a filtered brew for a girl who usually slams but was that day sober and she said she felt good.

I prefer kratom to many other substances because it has a good multidimensional character.

I hear L-Theanine significantly eases withdrawals; combo with B6 to boost absorption.


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5)Salvia (need to try quid)


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #21758645 - 06/03/15 06:45 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

a large majority of withdrawl is all in your head.  Most drugs are out of your system in a matter of hours..  tops 48.  Benzo and booze withdrawl aint in your head, opiate withdrawl is the most uncomfortable. but you cant die from it


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: sprinkles]
    #21758665 - 06/03/15 06:50 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

All good my order should be here in a week so all is good.

The thing I like about kratom is I am always excited to get out of bed to burn a few grams when I have supply. Without it I just feel less motivated to do stuff.


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: sprinkles]
    #21758684 - 06/03/15 06:54 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I find cannabis more "addicting" than kratom personally :shrug:

I do know what you mean about the motivation thing BC.

I would argue, at least for me, that the real issue is I am not a morning person anyways.

So when I take kratom early on I get a nice enrgy boost and mood enhancement that makes me productive.

Than if I at it daily for a couple weeks when I stop I feel extra tired in the mornings. But I wouldn't say it makes me tired necessarily, it just stands out more.


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21758703 - 06/03/15 07:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Try a TnW of a few grams of quality korean ginseng root and/or a nice microdose.

Look into things like mucuna and kanna also.  Maybe a rotation of recreation is better than the same tune on a daily loop...


I also like smoking Salvia on days off for the kappa agonism to help reset that system and prevent addiction.  Poor man's Ibogaine.


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2)Amanita (urine drank twice)
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4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators)
5)Salvia (need to try quid)


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: flickedbic]
    #21758727 - 06/03/15 07:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

:strokebeard:

Interesting with the salvia, too bad more people aren't into it :shrug:


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21758863 - 06/03/15 07:47 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

It's good stuff, on par or better than the ~$200/kilo vendors I've tried. 


@flickedbic
:thumbup: Jealous, it's been a few years since I could buy it. Plain leaf or extract?


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: DustBunny]
    #21759066 - 06/03/15 08:25 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Both...  I started with the leaf and gained a relationship.  Now I work with plain leaf and a sprinkle of 20x on top.

Salvia is a dear ally, and altho she can be a very demanding mistress I deeply appreciate her stern yet loving hand...  What a good facilitator she makes for addiction cessation...  Kind of like how mushrooms affect neurogenesis. 

Constant flows the universal wisdom.


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1)Combo of oral DMT + smoked Bufotenine
2)Amanita (urine drank twice)
3)Mushrooms > Achuma 16"+cid(still need higher dose Achuma)> Cid (still need high dose)
4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators)
5)Salvia (need to try quid)


All readable matter in the above post is ficticious... any similarities to real life are purely coincidental.

Blessing.


Edited by flickedbic (06/03/15 08:46 PM)


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