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OfflineKonyap

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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: Astral Pain]
    #21748630 - 06/01/15 01:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

get some 000 gel caps and eat like 5 of them with a shit ton of water to wash it down


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: Astral Pain]
    #21749074 - 06/01/15 03:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Kratom is a great muscle relaxed! I took my normal dose yesterday of 5 caps of a mix and felt great all day, then took 3 red vein caps in the evening and wow I felt great. Stayed up til like 2:30+ am playing music before I decided I should lay down and it was heavenly.

I slept like a baby, of course I get super :stoned: too and they go great together but kratom honestly works better for many things for me.


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You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by

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I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free



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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: musiclover420]
    #21749158 - 06/01/15 03:47 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

It sounds incredible. Weed worked great for relaxation at bed time, but I had to stop due to piss tests from my pain management doc. I can't even watch a fucking movie now without weed. I hope this does the trick, but from what I;m reading it's the bomb.


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: Astral Pain]
    #21749271 - 06/01/15 04:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

It really is :lol: If I take it too late in the day + get super stoned the combo ends up keeping me awak usually, partly becouse I am already on a late schedule and partly becouse cannabis keeps me up sometimes and that + the kratom makes a pretty productive and motivated relaxed headspace where I want to do stuff not lay down and rest. I need to start eating it earlier I think partly.

Whenever I do lay down eventually though it is magical :drooling:


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You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by

I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me

I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free



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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: Astral Pain]
    #21749275 - 06/01/15 04:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Don't get your hopes up too much. Its a good/useful drug, but nothing really great. I mean its not like a party drug or anything. And I've found it doesn't work on everyone. Make sure your stomache is empty when you try it and good luck


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: Lophosaurus]
    #21749316 - 06/01/15 04:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I honestly prefer eating something with it half the time, as long as it is light.

Just becouse it isn't great for you doesn't mean it won't be for others. I personally get amazing effects off of kratom even in the 2-3 gram range :shrug:

Eating 5-7 capsules and feeling good and relaxed over half the day is pretty great to me...

Definitely does not work for everyone though, I feel blessed by nature. Though I really believe it is from me never fucking with opiates.


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You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by

I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me

I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free



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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: musiclover420]
    #21749365 - 06/01/15 04:46 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Don't get me wrong. I love the stuff and eat it all the time. Its just with my experience, when I gave some to someone new they thought it would be way stronger than it was. They were expecting it to be like a percocet and then they were disappointed. The effects are more of a subtle feeling for me.


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: Lophosaurus]
    #21749444 - 06/01/15 05:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I have given it to people who compared it to pharms actually, that same person got pretty fucked up off of 5 grams and ended up getting some opiate sickness.

:shrug:

The effects can be pretty subtle for me too but I generally just stick to a couple grams, when I eat more solid amounts the effects can be very pronounced.


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Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky

You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by

I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me

I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free



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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: musiclover420]
    #21750048 - 06/01/15 07:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah I had some and this kid wanted to know what it was like. I had some pretty fire maeng da. He was an ex-heroin addict possibly still doing shit. I gave him 5g and he said it felt just like oxy. He was pretty shocked because he had no clue it existed.

Same goes for my good friends brother. This kid swallows like 6 (10mg hydros) at a time and I have him 5g for his flight back and he was texting me the whole time saying it was amazing and he felt it.


- No use of giving anyone with a tolerance less then 5g in my opinion. I'd be pretty smacked if I did 5g myself. I take 2-3g at a time.


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: Gorlax]
    #21750206 - 06/01/15 08:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

That's impressive the opiate abusers felt it too.

I have noticed those are generally the ones who don't feel it or at least just very weakly.

Also I have noticed people who use pharms are always the ones comparing it to the pharms.

I personally have never tried them so it reminds me more of natural things like cannabis.


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Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky

You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by

I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me

I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free



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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: musiclover420]
    #21750294 - 06/01/15 08:27 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah, it resembles hydrocodone the most imo


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: Gorlax]
    #21750392 - 06/01/15 08:48 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

ugh this thread was a joke but I didn't take any today and cant sleep

downin some red vein in yogurt:awesome:


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #21757451 - 06/03/15 01:32 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If anyone here wants to try kratom, or needs some, I just made a post looking to trade some red vein thai for spore prints. :fonda:


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: danielx]
    #21758341 - 06/03/15 05:40 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I don't know if I'd be able to get by right now without kratom.
No money for painkillers and I've been having a bad flare with my GI tract lately.
I'm only taking a gram a day after I eat and it calms things down enough that I can rest well.
Didn't think this small of an amount would do anything, but it really saves the day.
Lucky to have a good vendor.


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #21758433 - 06/03/15 05:57 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Ya bro I found a good vendor too on the kratom coinesseurs forum.

Just ordered a kilo for a hundred bucks. Going through minor withdrawals and just feel restless and useless. Can't wait to burn five grams of some delicious kratom.


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21758636 - 06/03/15 06:43 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I was suprised the other day to find just a pinch held in the cheek was nice for the dog walk, spit out when we got home.  I try not to swallow the leaf unless it's been freeze-thawed repeatedly for comfort and effect.

I made a filtered brew for a girl who usually slams but was that day sober and she said she felt good.

I prefer kratom to many other substances because it has a good multidimensional character.

I hear L-Theanine significantly eases withdrawals; combo with B6 to boost absorption.


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Favorite entheogen experiences in descending order:
1)Combo of oral DMT + smoked Bufotenine
2)Amanita (urine drank twice)
3)Mushrooms > Achuma 16"+cid(still need higher dose Achuma)> Cid (still need high dose)
4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators)
5)Salvia (need to try quid)


All readable matter in the above post is ficticious... any similarities to real life are purely coincidental.

Blessing.


Edited by flickedbic (06/03/15 06:51 PM)


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #21758645 - 06/03/15 06:45 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

a large majority of withdrawl is all in your head.  Most drugs are out of your system in a matter of hours..  tops 48.  Benzo and booze withdrawl aint in your head, opiate withdrawl is the most uncomfortable. but you cant die from it


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: sprinkles]
    #21758665 - 06/03/15 06:50 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

All good my order should be here in a week so all is good.

The thing I like about kratom is I am always excited to get out of bed to burn a few grams when I have supply. Without it I just feel less motivated to do stuff.


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: sprinkles]
    #21758684 - 06/03/15 06:54 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I find cannabis more "addicting" than kratom personally :shrug:

I do know what you mean about the motivation thing BC.

I would argue, at least for me, that the real issue is I am not a morning person anyways.

So when I take kratom early on I get a nice enrgy boost and mood enhancement that makes me productive.

Than if I at it daily for a couple weeks when I stop I feel extra tired in the mornings. But I wouldn't say it makes me tired necessarily, it just stands out more.


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Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky

You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by

I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me

I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free



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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21758703 - 06/03/15 07:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Try a TnW of a few grams of quality korean ginseng root and/or a nice microdose.

Look into things like mucuna and kanna also.  Maybe a rotation of recreation is better than the same tune on a daily loop...


I also like smoking Salvia on days off for the kappa agonism to help reset that system and prevent addiction.  Poor man's Ibogaine.


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Favorite entheogen experiences in descending order:
1)Combo of oral DMT + smoked Bufotenine
2)Amanita (urine drank twice)
3)Mushrooms > Achuma 16"+cid(still need higher dose Achuma)> Cid (still need high dose)
4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators)
5)Salvia (need to try quid)


All readable matter in the above post is ficticious... any similarities to real life are purely coincidental.

Blessing.


Edited by flickedbic (06/03/15 07:05 PM)


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