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OfflineConnoisseur

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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: Gorlax]
    #21746164 - 05/31/15 08:21 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Gorlax said:
Slam some kratom extract.




Acetylate some kratar and shoot it


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InvisiblePsychonautica
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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: Connoisseur]
    #21746178 - 05/31/15 08:27 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Krateroin?


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21746222 - 05/31/15 08:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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lets_drive_around said:
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vinsue said:
:classictroll: . . . :peace:







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OfflineKonyap

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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: Mental Taco]
    #21746484 - 05/31/15 09:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I stopped kratom cold turkey after I hit rock bottom. At least that's what I tell myself.


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #21746515 - 05/31/15 09:50 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Taper off kratom with kratom?

Seems pretty easy logic.

You must be taking heavy doses to be very addicted; kratom alkaloids have a higher affinity for delta-opioid receptors; which aren't addictive like the kappa opioid receptors (which kratom begins bonding too in very high doses when there are no more available delta-opioids).


For me, getting off kratom was like getting off caffeine.

I'd suggest you taper your dose over a month.
Then go cold turkey, and just have some coffee and cannabis for the first couple of days.


I personally love kratom, and think I will always enjoy a few grams of some potent maeng da occasionally.

I could see myself cutting out cannabis entirely before kratom.


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #21746526 - 05/31/15 09:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

The first time I did jenkem I told myself I was only going to try that, but then I heard about kratom.

Kratom. Not even once.


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: Konyap] * 1
    #21746564 - 05/31/15 10:01 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

has anyone been so far as to really want do look more like shooting mitragynine?


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: Mental Taco]
    #21746811 - 05/31/15 11:21 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Mental Taco said:
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lets_drive_around said:
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vinsue said:
:classictroll: . . . :peace:










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You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by

I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me

I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free



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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: musiclover420]
    #21746898 - 05/31/15 11:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Apparently you can smoke kratom.

I estimate I have taken kratom over a thousand times and it still makes me feel good. I take a few months off usually then a few months on and repeat the cycle.

Kratom is one of the best medicines ever especially for depression and ADD. 


I also think it is totally a blue collar drug. It makes you able to lift stuff better and do labour longer.



Oh and for kratom withdrawal just man up dude. I am gonna go through a minor w/d in a few days when I run out and I could care less.


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21746938 - 06/01/15 12:20 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

:trolldance:


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: daz01]
    #21747026 - 06/01/15 01:01 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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daz01 said:
:trolldance:




what?


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21747263 - 06/01/15 03:17 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah that may have been the least troll post I have seen from BC, minus the smoking kratom part. Idk about that.


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You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by

I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me

I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free



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OfflinePsychedelics yummy
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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: musiclover420]
    #21747273 - 06/01/15 03:29 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

pretty sure that was directed at OP, BC was just the last post.


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: Psychedelics yummy]
    #21747276 - 06/01/15 03:32 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Also you can smoke kratom.

You can smoke anything. It just might not do anything :wink:

I've heard different things in seriousness about the effectiveness of smoking kratom, it seems you can smoke it, but to get the effects you need to smoke like, ounces of it in a matter of minutes, not physically possible.


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yeah, i said i was afraid of psychonautica


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21747281 - 06/01/15 03:35 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

My thoughts were that certain alkaloids might be smokable, but who knows what conditions they smoke best at and then you miss out on everything else.

Not to mention with all the variance some strains could be smokable and others could not :lol:

Extracts of the specific smokable alkaloid/ alkaloids could work well but it seems like a lot of effort for something you can just eat :shrug:


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You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by

I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me

I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free



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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: musiclover420]
    #21747290 - 06/01/15 03:41 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I can only imagine how horrible burning kratom would taste as well.


I think smoking an extract might be viable, but the "that's a lot of work" thing doesn't really apply to me, but I can see how it'd be too much to go from leaves to that.

Kratom doesnt do shit to me unless I make my own extract so that's the first thing I do when I get leaf, I just boil everything I buy down with some lemon and lime juice, evap that, scrape it up, and grind it into a powder.

So since I'm already holding an active powder extract I could smoke that and it shouldn't be too disgusting.

Sorry if anyone is hoping I'll be the one to do this for science, because fuck that. You first.


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yeah, i said i was afraid of psychonautica


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21747420 - 06/01/15 05:47 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

How effective is kratom on pain? I need something to add to my norcos. I would love to not have to take as many as I do, and I even added some DLPA to the mix a few months ago. That shit worked great right out of the gates for my pain and a little on mood, but I wonder how much better kratom would be.


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: Astral Pain]
    #21747794 - 06/01/15 09:45 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Kratom is like a mini speedball.

My dose is kicing in now with my concerta feels good bro. Love my add meds too.


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21748525 - 06/01/15 01:30 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I sprinkle kratom in my taco shell before I eat so that way I won't want to get up


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Re: kratom withdrawal [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21748579 - 06/01/15 01:42 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Bitter Cactus said:
Kratom is like a mini speedball.

My dose is kicing in now with my concerta feels good bro. Love my add meds too.




I will be placing an order tomorrow. Can't wait to try it out and chime in. Shit, I'm getting the feeling this is something I should have started long ago. I'm just waiting for Illinois yo get their shit together with medical marijuana, but it sounds like kratom may take it's place if it's a muscle relaxer.


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