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agarmeister
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solo ayahuasca
#21744784 - 05/31/15 01:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hey,
A few months ago I attended an event where ayahuasca was drunk with about 40 people participating.
It was nice but I really didn't care for the vomiting sounds all around me, and generally felt that the presence of all those people, along with the poor musical choices made by the organisers were hindering my experience.
I'm used to trip alone on shrooms and acid, and can handle high doses on my own.
My question is: Do people take ayahuasca alone as well? I'm sure that there are other people like me who don't care for the ceremonial and social elements and are more interested in the brew's effect on its own. I also don't see a reason to do this during the night, as I enjoy tripping during the day a lot more. So, any solo ayahuasca / mescaline trippers around here?
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thewanderer25
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Well its unwise to do it alone for a couple reasons number one is that if you vomit facing up you could drown in your own vomit and die. If you do this make sure not to lye down facing upwards and the other reason is if something whent wrong you would have a sober person to help you. That being said you can still do it if you want to but just be careful and mindful to the set and setting and make sure not to lye facing up. Some good music to listen to is this or sounds of the rain forest.
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agarmeister
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thank you, friend.
So basically, doing it with a sober friend during the day should be good, right?
I wonder why it's not commonplace to do it that way.. psychedelics and being social is not a very good mix for an introvert such as I.
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Yes you don't have to but its a risk prevention sort of thing. Most likely you would be fine but i wouldn't risk my life on it. But the day is not the best time because of the light it hurts your eyes a lot more because their so dilated and when your that far gone a little thing like that can cause a terrible trip.
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I would try to make some pharmahuasca. Way less sickness for most people that way.
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Re: solo ayahuasca [Re: Eggtimer]
#21747085 - 06/01/15 01:28 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I've always done it by myself, nothing wrong with it. As long as you have a strong mind, you're fine.
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agarmeister
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Re: solo ayahuasca [Re: Sabnock]
#21748214 - 06/01/15 12:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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thewanderer25 - Thanks, I'll be sure to have shades nearby then 
Eggtimer - Pharmahuasca sounds interesting. How do I go about doing that? Is there a definitive (and easy) tek?
Sabnock - Good to know! I figured I wasn't the only one...
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thewanderer25
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well i have never researched into making it but I do know a bit about chemistry so this is my idea and from a chemistry stand point. Get some naphtha or another non polar solvent and let the bark sit in it for 3 to four days and make sure its in a powdered form (in order to make the purest extract keep doing it till the solvent is clear this will take more time and multiple washes but one wash is fine) then throw out the liquid and dry the bark for another 3 days till you cant smell the solvents (this is very important the solvents are bad for your health) next get some isopropyl alcohol the higher the percent the better. pour the isopropyl alcohol in a jar with your defatted bark and let it sit for three days shaking it every now and again. After three days filter the bark and keep the liquid dry the liquid and keep the junk that drys from the alcohol. Put the junk into a pill capsule or just eat it straight. Do the same with the MAOI and you should be good. The way this works is the non polar solvent takes all the fat and nasty crap that makes you sick from ayahuasca and it dissolve it so you can pour it out. The alcohol takes all the polar stuff (DMT) and dissolve it its the same with water except the water takes a long time to dry. but there may be a better tek this is just a standard polar to nonpolar extraction I use for LSA.
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agarmeister
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Wow, thanks you for that!
I'll have to get a hold of some bark first. I saw some at Amazon if I'm not mistaken, I hope it's the real thing. It would be faster than growing it I guess.
About the MAOI, should I use Syrian Rue or try to get pharmaceutical stuff?
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thewanderer25 said: well i have never researched into making it but I do know a bit about chemistry so this is my idea and from a chemistry stand point. Get some naphtha or another non polar solvent and let the bark sit in it for 3 to four days and make sure its in a powdered form (in order to make the purest extract keep doing it till the solvent is clear this will take more time and multiple washes but one wash is fine) then throw out the liquid and dry the bark for another 3 days till you cant smell the solvents (this is very important the solvents are bad for your health) next get some isopropyl alcohol the higher the percent the better. pour the isopropyl alcohol in a jar with your defatted bark and let it sit for three days shaking it every now and again. After three days filter the bark and keep the liquid dry the liquid and keep the junk that drys from the alcohol. Put the junk into a pill capsule or just eat it straight. Do the same with the MAOI and you should be good. The way this works is the non polar solvent takes all the fat and nasty crap that makes you sick from ayahuasca and it dissolve it so you can pour it out. The alcohol takes all the polar stuff (DMT) and dissolve it its the same with water except the water takes a long time to dry. but there may be a better tek this is just a standard polar to nonpolar extraction I use for LSA.
 Good luck with that tek for dmt extraction! You should never give advice on something you obviously have no idea about.
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paperbackwriter
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Caapi.
And I've taken Ayahuasca alone on a number of occasions. I've never been so far gone that I couldn't aim for a puke bucket let alone was in danger of choking on my own puke. Granted, I go heavy on the vine and light on admixture.
Some excellent advice here.
http://www.ayahuasca.com/spirit/safety-for-the-solitary-drinker/
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agarmeister
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paperbackwriter, thanks for the excellent link, I'll get reading pronto. And I love the quotes in your signature.
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thewanderer25
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thewanderer25 said: well i have never researched into making it but I do know a bit about chemistry so this is my idea and from a chemistry stand point. Get some naphtha or another non polar solvent and let the bark sit in it for 3 to four days and make sure its in a powdered form (in order to make the purest extract keep doing it till the solvent is clear this will take more time and multiple washes but one wash is fine) then throw out the liquid and dry the bark for another 3 days till you cant smell the solvents (this is very important the solvents are bad for your health) next get some isopropyl alcohol the higher the percent the better. pour the isopropyl alcohol in a jar with your defatted bark and let it sit for three days shaking it every now and again. After three days filter the bark and keep the liquid dry the liquid and keep the junk that drys from the alcohol. Put the junk into a pill capsule or just eat it straight. Do the same with the MAOI and you should be good. The way this works is the non polar solvent takes all the fat and nasty crap that makes you sick from ayahuasca and it dissolve it so you can pour it out. The alcohol takes all the polar stuff (DMT) and dissolve it its the same with water except the water takes a long time to dry. but there may be a better tek this is just a standard polar to nonpolar extraction I use for LSA.
 Good luck with that tek for dmt extraction! You should never give advice on something you obviously have no idea about.
shit sorry don't use my tek i forgot DMT is salubale in just about everything. maybe an a/b tek would work best.
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paperbackwriter
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agarmeister said: paperbackwriter, thanks for the excellent link, I'll get reading pronto. And I love the quotes in your signature.
Hey thanks
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Re: solo ayahuasca [Re: Sabnock]
#21749407 - 06/01/15 05:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Sabnock said: I've always done it by myself, nothing wrong with it. As long as you have a strong mind, you're fine.
^^^^ This. 
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