|
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
|
eatyualive
Eat's You Alive :)



Registered: 08/17/01
Posts: 19,026
Loc: In Your Head
|
Re: Oysters on Scott's Mulch in grocery bags [Re: Munchauzen]
#23198437 - 05/07/16 10:20 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
yeah not really required for oysters either. you would probably melt the plastic bag. i wouldn't want to plague the inside of my pressure cooker with a melted plastic bag. it will end up burning later on and causing a bunch of problems.
|
eatyualive
Eat's You Alive :)



Registered: 08/17/01
Posts: 19,026
Loc: In Your Head
|
Re: Oysters on Scott's Mulch in grocery bags [Re: eatyualive]
#24352729 - 05/26/17 09:37 PM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
eatyualive said: believe it or not this culture is from 2007. stored in a liquid culture syringe in the fridge since then.
got any pics id like to see it on some different wood chips?
bam! this culture is still rocking! 
|
TravelAgency
The ongoing "wow"


Registered: 12/25/10
Posts: 4,431
Last seen: 11 months, 22 days
|
Re: Oysters on Scott's Mulch in grocery bags [Re: eatyualive]
#24352740 - 05/26/17 09:47 PM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
That's awesome Eat good to see ya mate
|
eatyualive
Eat's You Alive :)



Registered: 08/17/01
Posts: 19,026
Loc: In Your Head
|
Re: Oysters on Scott's Mulch in grocery bags [Re: TravelAgency]
#24352761 - 05/26/17 10:03 PM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
|
TheMadHatter420
Trusted Farmer


Registered: 10/12/16
Posts: 12,941
|
Re: Oysters on Scott's Mulch in grocery bags [Re: eatyualive]
#24355280 - 05/27/17 10:38 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
I am SOOOO glad I stumbled upon this. I am just starting to get interested in oysters, and wasn't really sure of an easy way to fruit them. This seems perfect for me to learn about oyster. This is like noob introduction to oyster spawning/fruiting.
-------------------- JOIN THE POW WOW
|
jkz
Padawan


Registered: 06/16/13
Posts: 1,910
Loc: Coruscant
|
Re: Oysters on Scott's Mulch in grocery bags [Re: TheMadHatter420]
#24359473 - 05/29/17 04:45 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
TheMadHatter420 said: I am SOOOO glad I stumbled upon this. I am just starting to get interested in oysters, and wasn't really sure of an easy way to fruit them. This seems perfect for me to learn about oyster. This is like noob introduction to oyster spawning/fruiting.
 I literally just get some blue and king oyster agar. Gonna be giving this a go as son as I can make clean spawn. Excited.
|
Ziran
The Hero of Time




Registered: 02/03/16
Posts: 6,030
Loc: Temple of Time
|
Re: Oysters on Scott's Mulch in grocery bags [Re: eatyualive]
#24363541 - 05/30/17 09:11 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
yo eats. did you fruit those bags inside a GH?
-------------------- Song Of Healing
Updated Pf Tek Guide Ziran's Teks AMU Q&A Thread The Chinese word for nature is zìrán and it means that of which is of itself.

|
Tripping2Adventure
StealingKnowledge



Registered: 03/28/16
Posts: 371
Loc: Under a Rock, Bottom of t...
|
Re: Oysters on Scott's Mulch in grocery bags [Re: eatyualive]
#24363602 - 05/30/17 09:38 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
|
eatyualive
Eat's You Alive :)



Registered: 08/17/01
Posts: 19,026
Loc: In Your Head
|
|
no ziran,
i just mist when i walk by a few times daily. when you open up the holes around the pin clusters, the rest of the moisture of the substrate is kept inside the bag. if you open the bag too much you can have drying issues. this method is for a quick dinner a few times weekly. its not meant to be a method that gives you mass yield. just a quick and easy way to grow some oysters for fun and dinner.
you may find if you don't mist a few times daily your subs will dry out. a climate controlled environment is ideal but not everyone has that. this is intended for those who just need enough for themselves to eat. i suppose you could use some 5ml clear plastic and rig up an area somewhere to keep the rh in the room a little higher. maybe a coolmist in the room would help. but you can get away with growing oysters without a controlled environment. you have to have lots of fresh air exchange. much more than cubes. if you try them in tubs, its very difficult and the flushes are meh. you don't get enough air exchange and the substrates dry out.
the cool thing is, you can use newspaper, all kind of mulch or even dung or compost or straw. i love straw personally, but i hate prepping straw and working with it. nor do i have space to do so. and when it comes to cleaning straw...damn. also, its a pain to cut without good equipment. i also don't have space for equipment like that. weedeater and a garbage bin i guess. i don't even have space for a weedeater.
personally, i like using recycled newspaper because it recycles and its free. i mostly use it because i have it and try not to be wastedful. if i had room to store a bale of straw i would use straw but that is not the case. i just tried the soaked mulch and it worked the same way as newspaper. im pretty sure oysters will grow on anything.
there is an awesome thread at topia and its by a guy named fugubarn or something like that. the guy was near an old cotton farm. so he would use the recycled wasted plant material from the cotton mills and grow oysters like that. he built an autocleave the size of an 18 wheeler and has a giant grow area. i have a link in my journal if you want to see it. pretty insane oyster grow. probably the biggest and most amazing one i have ever seen. it puts things to shame.
keep scrolling through the thread and you will find the truck size autoclave.
https://mycotopia.net/topic/59602-operation-dumb-ass-the-great-outdoors/page-11
|
Ziran
The Hero of Time




Registered: 02/03/16
Posts: 6,030
Loc: Temple of Time
|
Re: Oysters on Scott's Mulch in grocery bags [Re: eatyualive]
#24366599 - 05/31/17 10:05 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
right on. I have a bunch of shredded paper at my disposal. that should work just fine.
-------------------- Song Of Healing
Updated Pf Tek Guide Ziran's Teks AMU Q&A Thread The Chinese word for nature is zìrán and it means that of which is of itself.

|
TheBlackCat
Possibly Human



Registered: 10/05/16
Posts: 2,819
Last seen: 1 year, 5 months
|
Re: Oysters on Scott's Mulch in grocery bags [Re: Ziran]
#24507275 - 07/25/17 01:38 PM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
WOW! I never thought of this. I bet I could hang the bags off of little hooks on the beams in my basement too to save space since they have handles.
|
SalviaGod
Bad Person, Good Guy



Registered: 05/07/12
Posts: 747
Last seen: 6 days, 26 minutes
|
Re: Oysters on Scott's Mulch in grocery bags [Re: TheBlackCat]
#24519151 - 07/30/17 08:16 PM (6 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
I found some mulch labled "hardwood mulch" at my walmart that dosent appear to be dyed at all. Would this be ideal? Is working with it fresh out of the bag non pastrurized recommended or is there a degree of risk to it?
|
TravelAgency
The ongoing "wow"


Registered: 12/25/10
Posts: 4,431
Last seen: 11 months, 22 days
|
Re: Oysters on Scott's Mulch in grocery bags [Re: SalviaGod]
#24519503 - 07/30/17 11:58 PM (6 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
SalviaGod said: I found some mulch labled "hardwood mulch" at my walmart that dosent appear to be dyed at all. Would this be ideal? Is working with it fresh out of the bag non pastrurized recommended or is there a degree of risk to it?
Not ideal but may work quite well! And yes I would pasteurize- so much nasties in a Walmart I'd definitely take that precaution.
|
SalviaGod
Bad Person, Good Guy



Registered: 05/07/12
Posts: 747
Last seen: 6 days, 26 minutes
|
Re: Oysters on Scott's Mulch in grocery bags [Re: TravelAgency]
#24519509 - 07/31/17 12:11 AM (6 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
TravelAgency said:
Quote:
SalviaGod said: I found some mulch labled "hardwood mulch" at my walmart that dosent appear to be dyed at all. Would this be ideal? Is working with it fresh out of the bag non pastrurized recommended or is there a degree of risk to it?
Not ideal but may work quite well! And yes I would pasteurize- so much nasties in a Walmart I'd definitely take that precaution.
Not "ideal" as in the best for oysters out of any standerd sub, i meant more of "ideal" for this tek, like if i was gonna use mulch it would be the best mulch to get.
|
TravelAgency
The ongoing "wow"


Registered: 12/25/10
Posts: 4,431
Last seen: 11 months, 22 days
|
Re: Oysters on Scott's Mulch in grocery bags [Re: SalviaGod]
#24519514 - 07/31/17 12:23 AM (6 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
As lon as it hasn't been super treated it should work fine. It's hard to tell with those things but if it's cheap I'd say its definitely worth a shot!
|
Munchauzen


Registered: 06/22/11
Posts: 14,342
|
Re: Oysters on Scott's Mulch in grocery bags [Re: TravelAgency]
#24519541 - 07/31/17 12:58 AM (6 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
SalviaGod said: I found some mulch labled "hardwood mulch" at my walmart that dosent appear to be dyed at all. Would this be ideal? Is working with it fresh out of the bag non pastrurized recommended or is there a degree of risk to it?
its in the OP. perhaps its time to give it a 2nd reading.
Quote:
You can use this mulch right out of the bag. Generally it has perfect moisture content when bought in the store. In this write up the bag used was several years old so it had to be rehydrated.
pasteurization is not called for in this tek. ive done this tek multiple times and never pasteurized anything, and its never failed. oyster myc is powerful stuff.
|
SalviaGod
Bad Person, Good Guy



Registered: 05/07/12
Posts: 747
Last seen: 6 days, 26 minutes
|
Re: Oysters on Scott's Mulch in grocery bags [Re: Munchauzen]
#24519638 - 07/31/17 03:19 AM (6 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Munchauzen said:
Quote:
SalviaGod said: I found some mulch labled "hardwood mulch" at my walmart that dosent appear to be dyed at all. Would this be ideal? Is working with it fresh out of the bag non pastrurized recommended or is there a degree of risk to it?
its in the OP. perhaps its time to give it a 2nd reading.
Quote:
You can use this mulch right out of the bag. Generally it has perfect moisture content when bought in the store. In this write up the bag used was several years old so it had to be rehydrated.
pasteurization is not called for in this tek. ive done this tek multiple times and never pasteurized anything, and its never failed. oyster myc is powerful stuff.
Awesome, thanks for the input 
Yeah i saw that it said it wasnt pasturized, but also the tek is two years old, so i was just wondering if opinions had changed since then.
|
eatyualive
Eat's You Alive :)



Registered: 08/17/01
Posts: 19,026
Loc: In Your Head
|
Re: Oysters on Scott's Mulch in grocery bags [Re: SalviaGod]
#24519685 - 07/31/17 05:07 AM (6 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
I've heard recently people have had issues with cedar mulch. Also I've seen some mulch that has pine straw and it didn't seem to colonize. I use this same method with newspaper and it requires no pasteurization. Some mulch comes hydrated in the bag. But you want to soak it in warm water in order to get the mulch to proper moisture content.
Most people have issues with oysters when it comes to fruiting. They need high fae when in doubt cut a small hole in the bag if your not getting pins.
Edited by eatyualive (07/31/17 08:59 AM)
|
SalviaGod
Bad Person, Good Guy



Registered: 05/07/12
Posts: 747
Last seen: 6 days, 26 minutes
|
Re: Oysters on Scott's Mulch in grocery bags [Re: eatyualive]
#24520590 - 07/31/17 02:25 PM (6 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
Awesome, thanks for the tips Eat.
Earlier in the thread i saw you say something about being at about 50% humidity. Was that indoor or outdoor humidity?
You grew these in open air right?
If my humidity is about 30% where i would be growing them do you think they would still be fine if i mist the fruits often?
|
eatyualive
Eat's You Alive :)



Registered: 08/17/01
Posts: 19,026
Loc: In Your Head
|
Re: Oysters on Scott's Mulch in grocery bags [Re: SalviaGod]
#24528165 - 08/03/17 06:37 PM (6 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
Indoor RH is between 45-50% in my house. I then mist the fruits anytime I walk by. Minimum 3 times a day. I drench the fruits dripping wet.
Yes open air. You can stack them in close proximity. That may help. I might even rig a 5ml plastic tarp near the bags and maybe mist that as well. You could automate but that is not the intention of this method. This is for super simple fruiting. The difficult part is keeping the balance of RH and fae for oysters. You want the moisture content in the sub block to be maintained. If your fruits are drying. Your losing moisture or aren't misting enough.
Also with the open air environment dont be afraid to heavily mist the fruits directly. they aren't as sensitive to wetspot like cubes are.
Edited by eatyualive (08/03/17 07:19 PM)
|
|