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Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened??
    #21743004 - 05/30/15 10:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Ok so I had to try my own grow.  I'm sorta a big guy and I've tripped on a few different things before, and I have this rule.  Never go balls to the wall until you know how you'll act.  If you like what you take then go for it.  So first time I ate an 8th.  I was almost so disappointed I nearly threw all my grow out in the trash.  Then I thought well hell I am a bigger dude so maybe I need to up it up some.  Well I invited some friends to trip with me.  They all ate 8ths and I decided to eat 7 grams...plus 3 papaya (whatever that digestive thing is called) enzimes and what ensued was a total fuckage of my mind.  Within twenty minutes I was telling people "guys...shit is looking weird".  And it was.  The entire room came alive with vibrating colors that shined and glowed and objects began to actually move but we're stationary.  I don't mean "oh hey that thing looks like it moved...cool".  Nah man the box fan sitting on the floor actually floated the fuck away.  I literally felt as if I was trapped inside a hallucination.  So when they notice I am tripped out my friends decide its time for some beatles and why not play the magical mystery tour?  I can not tell you how much sense that movie made but it made no sense at all.  I was so in touch with my thoughts feelings....everything was funny as hell and I could not for the life of me control anything that was going on.  So I have two questions for experienced trippers...

1.  Was any of that the tell tale signs of the famed "ego death"?

And 2.  Why in the Sam hell was my face looking distorted, demonic and at times having deep cuts and scratches on it when I looked in the mirror? I was told to try this out and I honestly did not care for what I saw.  For one it was hard to focus because it seemed as if things were caving in but I literally saw my face morph into something demonic....then the image wiped away to normal and then the next thing that happened I saw deep scratches and cuts on my face the that seemed to wipe away.  That kept going on and on.  The fuck is that all about?

Anyways...just curious


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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: 1sttimeshroomer]
    #21743811 - 05/31/15 04:43 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

An eighth and a quarter of shrooms is a huuuuuuuuuuuugeeeee jump. It's not even near the double mark. It doesn't sound like ego death whatsoever.

And to the cuts and scratches, it is all subconscious. You probably took way too much. Just curious what was your 3.5 gram trip like? What made you want to "throw your grow out"?


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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: Achillita] * 1
    #21743834 - 05/31/15 04:52 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

your experience was nowhere near an ego death, and you are asking us why you saw hallucination type affects whilst looking at yourself in the mirror???

Do you even know what you are doing dude?? Lol


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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: Blazer420]
    #21743895 - 05/31/15 05:39 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

When I ate an 8th there were very very mild visuals and color glow.  No giggles not even a sense of a "trip".  It was more like...ok colors are sorta...doing something,  it was enough to kinda piss me off....sorta like taking half a puff of a joint and someone saying that's all you get for now lol.  A close relative of mine said he tripped his nuts off an 8th and at the time I never tripped mushrooms before so I was expecting something intense and nothing much happened.  I was going to toss it cause I had spent all this time and effort and I thought well shit dude an 8th is a lot and if this is as good as it gets....screw this.  Then I decided to up it pretty hard to see what balls to the wall was like and all I can say is holy....shit batman.  Lol sooooo glad I gave em a second chance!!

Blazer420....as far as tripping goes I am an experienced tripper on other psychs but as far as mushrooms go that was my second trip (actually first real hard trip but second time I ate shrooms I should say).  I take psychedelics just because it gives me a chance to open my mind and view things in a different way...sorta just makes me think I suppose.  Being that I was new to the drug I tried to seek some advice on things to do while tripping (like when rolling typically you listen to dubstep when tripping acid I usually sit and listen to beatles and watch cartoons or something ect...) someone suggested I look into the mirror but diddnt really tell me why.  That's the long story of why I did that lol

Yup.  7 grams.  Definitely worth it imo.  I wouldn't mind upping it to 8 or higher next time that was the tits


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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: Blazer420]
    #21744185 - 05/31/15 08:50 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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your experience was nowhere near an ego death, and you are asking us why you saw hallucination type affects whilst looking at yourself in the mirror???

Do you even know what you are doing dude?? Lol




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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: Blazer420] * 1
    #21744193 - 05/31/15 08:54 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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your experience was nowhere near an ego death, and you are asking us why you saw hallucination type affects whilst looking at yourself in the mirror???

Do you even know what you are doing dude?? Lol



:lol::facepalm3: "I ate hallucinogenic mushrooms and I started hallucinating, is this normal" buhahaha

And why in the fuck is everyone just chasing after their ego death experiences. It's not like a fucking psychedelic badge


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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #21744235 - 05/31/15 09:21 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

1. Doesnt sound like you achieved ego death, you were just trippin, pretty decently. If 7 made you triplike that, 10 will probably make you ego death, maybe even between 7-10.

2. What you saw in the mirror depends on the person, how they feel with themselves, alot of personal things. Not everyone will see the same tjings in the mirror.
For example, when i look in the mirror my face always morphs and changes, still my own face, but i always end up giving myself a nice evil smile, which makes me look like the guy on the front cover of Warcraft 3 frozen throne.
Love it, love it love it. Feel like the biggest badass on the face of the earth.

3. Keep ezperimenting man, every month or coiple weeks.youll learn to enjoy it. Ans learn from it.


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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: MajickMuffin]
    #21744318 - 05/31/15 10:11 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Also, on your next flush or another grow, don't just eat 7 grams again. The potency could be much higher than what you have now.


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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: Achillita]
    #21744410 - 05/31/15 10:59 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Also, on your next flush or another grow, don't just eat 7 grams again. The potency could be much higher than what you have now.



:werd:

sounds like the 3.5g trip was just bad genetics.  don't be foolish.  respect it or it will kick your ass.


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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: 1sttimeshroomer]
    #21744477 - 05/31/15 11:21 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Firstly, about the face thing...... it's hard to answer why your open-eye visuals manifest themselves in any particular way. It's a bit like if you dreamed that you had cuts on your face - it could be a psychological thing that relates to a fear of yours, it could be related to a specific thing you watched or heard about (e.g a scene in a film, a news report) or it could just be totally random. Stare at anything while tripping and it will probably start to look weird.

Another possible reason is that there are specific areas of the brain dedicated to recognizing very subtle differences between faces....if you are tripping and these go into overdrive the "face-morph" might be a side effect of over-activity in those brain circuits....at a guess.

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what ensued was a total fuckage of my mind....... I literally felt as if I was trapped inside a hallucination




As for the ego death thing....like the previous replies, it doesn't sound like ego death, but that feeling of being "trapped inside a hallucination" is characteristic of the loss of reality on a strong trip; at the end of that road you get "ego death". I would be cautious about deliberately aiming for it - those kind of trips can feel like you took too much and you are paying for it....punishing intensity and the feeling of "no way out". If you gradually push the dose higher, you will eventually end up in a trip that really takes over and gives you an experience so overwhelming that it feels downright supernatural.

These are a couple of posts where I attempted to give a rough description of an "ego-death" trip without getting too caught up in definitions and metaphysical stuff:

Ego death question

The trajectory of a strong trip


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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: Aldebaran]
    #21744544 - 05/31/15 11:49 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I don't have an explanation for it but I've also seen my face morphing in the mirror before. It shifted between a very demonic, evil looking face to one of bliss and compassion. Good and evil I guess. I don't remember seeing cuts and scratches but I did become so enthralled by the shifting mirror that I forgot to pull my pants back up before leaving the bathroom lol. So embarrassing. But just shows how hard I was tripping. Was with only 2g + an MAOI. If you ever have weak shrooms or only a small amount left, combine with an MAOI to more than double their potency! Careful tho.


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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: Aldebaran]
    #21744575 - 05/31/15 12:01 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

People talking about their ego dying. But has anyone stopped to think that we have an ego for a reason? Why would we as human beings, come with an ego if we weren't meant to have it? Perhaps it serves some function for this life, that has now been destroyed because of this ego death effect.


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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #21744591 - 05/31/15 12:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Blazer420 said:
your experience was nowhere near an ego death, and you are asking us why you saw hallucination type affects whilst looking at yourself in the mirror???

Do you even know what you are doing dude?? Lol



:lol::facepalm3: "I ate hallucinogenic mushrooms and I started hallucinating, is this normal" buhahaha

And why in the fuck is everyone just chasing after their ego death experiences. It's not like a fucking psychedelic badge





To be honest I really dont understand why everyone these days always post asking if they attained ego death (etc) either. Not meaning to be critical it just seems to be a new fad these days. Has a celebrity somewhere talked about his own ego death with psychedelics or something?

Day to day we walk around holding very firm and fixed conceptions as to what and who we are but a drug like LSD will show you that actually this is all largely just a bullshit illusion and all you really are is series of sensory signals that generate from god knows where.

It's interesting to speculate why we have and obviously need ego's but it seems to be definitely some kind of defence mechanism that we wouldn't stay sane long for without.

Its like seeing yourself from far above and you get a good long peak at the absurdity of the cartoon character that back down there in sanity you actually believe yourself to be on a daily basis.

There are so many posts where people talk about ego death describing it in such horribly complicated terms that it seems possible that now many newbies in the psychedelic community have absolutely no idea what it is!

Ego death is an interesting experience but its not really indicative of huge doses or the ultimate psychedelic experience. For me DMT does not even cause ego death.

LSD was for me seriously ego deranging/diminishing and salvia was actual ego death as it basically wiped out all comprehension as to where, what, and when I was. It was fucking horrible though and one of the reasons I dislike salvia. No ego whatsoever is not nice at all. 

For me the really astonishing part of an LSD or psychedelic experience is not ego death but those lighting fast ineffable visions containing arcane universal truths that you are allowed to know momentarily but then never take home.


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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: bennylava]
    #21744599 - 05/31/15 12:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

It's there for survival, "I"
It's also there for creation purposes, "you"
And then it's also there to wash away, the next step, shedding flesh.  We have a big fucking step ahead of us.  Think about that the next time you get comfortable.. it's coming..


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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: wolf8312]
    #21744617 - 05/31/15 12:14 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Its the same thing as "heroic doses" it's just juvenile mental masturbation... it's like how kids brag about how many beers they drank, how much of a liquor bottle they killed, how far they got with a girl, how fast they just drove their car etc.... stroking their ego, declaring their importance for the moment..


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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: wolf8312] * 1
    #21744625 - 05/31/15 12:17 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

It's in the nature of animals, to try and stand out..

And we are still animals..


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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: wolf8312]
    #21744631 - 05/31/15 12:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Rebelutionsssss said:
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Blazer420 said:
your experience was nowhere near an ego death, and you are asking us why you saw hallucination type affects whilst looking at yourself in the mirror???

Do you even know what you are doing dude?? Lol



:lol::facepalm3: "I ate hallucinogenic mushrooms and I started hallucinating, is this normal" buhahaha

And why in the fuck is everyone just chasing after their ego death experiences. It's not like a fucking psychedelic badge





For me the really astonishing part of an LSD or psychedelic experience is not ego death but those lighting fast ineffable visions containing arcane universal truths that you are allowed to know momentarily but then never take home.




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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #21744725 - 05/31/15 12:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I'd be careful about your dosing that high especially working with different mushrooms. Sounds like you had a shitty batch of multispore genetics and the potency wasn't that great. I've had mushrooms where 3.5 grams will rock your world, and ive had mushrooms where 3.5 grams is just a mild trip, it all depends on the mushrooms and how they were grown, If you were to take 7 grams of some decently potent grown mushrooms you would be in a different dimension. If you have to ask if it was ego death it's not, you will know in the moment that you are experiencing ego death, it's a feeling of losing your entire self and merging with universal love and becoming one, it's a very humbling and enlightening experience, you should feel as if you are actually dead and living in a "heaven" at least in my experience.


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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: 1sttimeshroomer]
    #21744748 - 05/31/15 12:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Ego death is everything you think you are failing away and you're left with just your pure consciousness with no concepts piled on top of it.
You probably fear the loss of your body like everyone else so until you overcome these fears they will keep showing you these things.
I'd just lower the dose if you're not ready.


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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: Eggtimer]
    #21744902 - 05/31/15 01:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Interesting thoughts.  However,  I was not chasing ego death.  Personally I don't care if it ever happens to me or not.  Now that I am a bit older I do not trip to party like I did as a teen.  For me the psychedelic experience is more of a understanding of my life, who I am by a lowering of my vulnerabilities, seeing things for who or what they are, and just a complete different way of thinking and processing.  It is liberating.  We go day to day in almost a rat race of sorts thinking we need to buy what people tell us to, believe what they tell us to, feel what they tell us to.  Us as human beings when you beat us to death with a concept we tend to adopt it...typically.  I just find it freeing to be able to say okay, well what if all of that isn't true?  Could there be another way?  Or whatever. 

I'm not going to lie and say the "high" wasn't fun because it obviously was...but if I was looking for a party I would go eat some molly and sweat out the night.  That's just not my style any more.  I was just asking if that's what it was (the ego death) and obviously it wasent.  No big deal though and i still plan to trip like I always do.  For a better understanding of life and self.  Just my motives is all,  maybe I got it wrong but imo everyone trips for their own reasons.  That's mine. 

Interesting thoughts though thanks for the feedback!!


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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: Eggtimer]
    #21744905 - 05/31/15 01:54 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

When my mind and face contort in the grips of laughter I know ive reached the promised land....

Usualy my cheeks hurt from laughin to hard after a good trip. Im 6,2.....240lbs.....im concidered large by most.....and a half eigth of good shrooms will still light my mind on fire....weight doesnt realy make a difrence...you probly had shity ones...witch might be hard to admit since you grew them.

According to what you said it sounds like it went great.

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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: 1sttimeshroomer]
    #21744923 - 05/31/15 02:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Interesting thoughts.  However,  I was not chasing ego death.  Personally I don't care if it ever happens to me or not.  Now that I am a bit older I do not trip to party like I did as a teen.  For me the psychedelic experience is more of a understanding of my life, who I am by a lowering of my vulnerabilities, seeing things for who or what they are, and just a complete different way of thinking and processing.  It is liberating.  We go day to day in almost a rat race of sorts thinking we need to buy what people tell us to, believe what they tell us to, feel what they tell us to.  Us as human beings when you beat us to death with a concept we tend to adopt it...typically.  I just find it freeing to be able to say okay, well what if all of that isn't true?  Could there be another way?  Or whatever. 

Interesting thoughts though thanks for the feedback!!




I don't buy anything that most people call reality. If you look at movies, news, and books from 50 to 100 years ago their adduitudes and beliefs are quite silly by today's standards.
Do you think in 100 years they will look back to the 21st century and say "oh that's when humans got their shit together." I think they will say something more like "what a bunch of idiots they had forbidden words, their poltical systems were totally corrupt, and they were dumping garbage everywhere."

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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: wolf8312]
    #21745554 - 05/31/15 05:14 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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LSD was for me seriously ego deranging/diminishing and salvia was actual ego death as it basically wiped out all comprehension as to where, what, and when I was. It was fucking horrible though and one of the reasons I dislike salvia. No ego whatsoever is not nice at all.

For me the really astonishing part of an LSD or psychedelic experience is not ego death but those lighting fast ineffable visions containing arcane universal truths that you are allowed to know momentarily but then never take home.




I'd say the second part of this - the "ineffable visions containing arcane universal truths" is closer to the meaning of ego death than the aspect of losing consciousness or entering a dissociative state; it's what happens when you're in that state that is interesting.

I'd agree with the general theme on this thread that "ego death" is a bit of a pointless term to start throwing around; it's interesting arguing about the exact meaning as a kind of philosophical discussion, but in general it's much more informative if people just describe specifically what they experience in their own words.


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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: bennylava]
    #21745674 - 05/31/15 05:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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People talking about their ego dying. But has anyone stopped to think that we have an ego for a reason? Why would we as human beings, come with an ego if we weren't meant to have it? Perhaps it serves some function for this life, that has now been destroyed because of this ego death effect.




This all goes back to buddhist beliefs, where the ego / self is something illusory that is preventing you from being liberated from suffering. The idea is that if you can understand this aspect of reality, then at the moment of your death you will be released from the cycle of reincarnation and liberated to the realm of "nirvana" (that's a very rough explanation; I have a limited understanding of buddhist concepts and I'm trying to remember what I've read).

The link with psychedelics is that in the middle of a strong trip you can enter a state which feels like your death; you get this overwhelming feeling of liberation/nirvana that is like a kind of religious rapture.....that you've transcended death and seen beyond your normal reality.

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Of course, you don't actually die......your ego doesn't literally die.....it's a figure of speech. Your ego /self certainly does serve a function, but the general idea is that it can be enlightening to see beyond this.

It's good to be sceptical of these ideas. It's also worth pointing out that at high doses you can become highly delusional; any attempt to treat a trip as a serious spiritual pursuit aiming at "ego death" is likely to be derailed by the sheer insanity of the trip. It's much more interesting to trip without any specific agenda and see where it takes you. I think a lot of people take large doses of shrooms primarily to get stronger visuals, and then get taken by surprise by the strongly mystical / spiritual / sci-fi kind of trips that sometimes result.

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1sttimeshroomer wrote: For me the psychedelic experience is more of a understanding of my life, who I am by a lowering of my vulnerabilities, seeing things for who or what they are, and just a complete different way of thinking and processing. It is liberating.




....back to the the idea of liberation, maybe not so far from ego death after all :wink:


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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: Aldebaran]
    #21745771 - 05/31/15 06:34 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

EGO DEATH DOESNT EXIST.


I say that because its not truly defined as anything. its like saying "im shooting for total astonishment"...

its just too vague to be an actual thing. Like love. Love doesn't exist...but the act of being kind exists.

People need to stop acting as if "ego death" is something that is attached to the psychedelic experience. Whenever anyone talks about ego death, my "noob" and bongrippz" alert goes off.


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I do not know its name; I call it tao.
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Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21745876 - 05/31/15 07:05 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Ego Death exists for sure... I have seen it happen to friends and also myself from a birds eye view of the world. I was what you would consider "All". When you see friends ask if they are dying on high doses with frightful eyes, you know their soul is getting shattered into a million pieces inside. Next morning they feel revived/reborn and much more closer to the spiritual sense of mankind :awecid:


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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: Blazer420]
    #21745896 - 05/31/15 07:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

yeah and i also have strong feelings for my wife. does that mean i love her? no it means i have strong feelings for her.

your friend had an astonishing trip that may have felt like how someone would describe ego death...but since ego death isn't a real thing(because the ego isn't even a real thing) it never happened.


the ego is just a word for something else. same goes for "ego death"

that's why i say it doesn't exist.


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I do not know its name; I call it tao.
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Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21745948 - 05/31/15 07:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

No you said it yourself... you only have strong feelings for her, not love her. so what ever brother.. LOL


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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: Blazer420]
    #21745967 - 05/31/15 07:30 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

ok then genius...tell me..

What is ego death?


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Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21746027 - 05/31/15 07:48 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Hahahaha.  Seems as though I have created a monster in the form of a thread.


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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21746042 - 05/31/15 07:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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ok then genius...tell me..

What is ego death?




One simply does not explain the type of feelings and dimensions that goes on during ego deaths, you just have to embrace it for yourself to understand.


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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: Blazer420]
    #21746075 - 05/31/15 07:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Lol bill, are you being serious or trolling? What a dumbass if you're being serious.

EVERYONE has an ego, NO one lives without an ego. The ego isnt a bad thing either. However you want others to view you is your own choice, if you dont care it doesnt matter you still have an ego.

Ego death is definitely real.. Defined " When all self is lost ". However breif it is very important.

The way you're responding and the condescending " I know and you dont " buzz you're giving off is lolsy.


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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: Blazer420]
    #21746109 - 05/31/15 08:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Hell for the sake of debate... To say something doesn't exist that could be different for each person...I don't know there's too many variables to argue one way or another.  Take for instance the act of hallucinating in general.  I can tell you I am tripping balls and everything is swaying and glowing but I can not pull you into my body and make you see what I see or feel what I feel.

In my experiences everyone trips different.  Some people are more sensitive than others.  Some people can eat seven grams like I did and probably not really trip that hard...doubt it but statistics say it could possibly happen.  Others can take two puffs of reg and branch out.  Also with variables such mood, setting, environmental factors and others that determine the type of trip it could be possible that some people have a much more intense experience than others.

Human beings themselves are variables.  As the saying goes...no two snow flakes are alike.  What I am getting at is maybe some of you haven't experienced ego death and therefore believe it isn't real...cause seeing is believing right? (You know what I mean).  But how can you personally judge personal experience, emotion, and thought?  Hell for all any of you know nobody here even trips.  But based upon evidence of stories I read I conclude that yes there are definitely some stoners here cause some experiences I can relate to.  Which I think the pro ego death people may be trying to convey is based upon their experiences of transention they validate others experiences.


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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: xthrx]
    #21746117 - 05/31/15 08:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Love is real as well. You can literally "see" what love is in the brain. It's like saying happiness doesn't exist, or sadness, or anger. But they all exist. It's an emotion, humans have labeled these things for thousands of years across thousands of languages.

Ego death is a relatively new term. It is not completely defined, but it is a term for describing the feeling of something intense and destructive happening on psychedelics. It's literally is dissolution of your own self. It's hard to explain because it happens so very seldom, and it is different intensities each time it happens. Just like you might be a little sad, or completely depressed. Just kinda pissed, or you're furious. Ego death is a wide range of experiences describing an occasionally common experience we obtain from psychedelics.


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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: Blazer420]
    #21746122 - 05/31/15 08:12 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Blazer420 said:
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Bill_Oreilly said:
ok then genius...tell me..

What is ego death?




One simply does not explain the type of feelings and dimensions that goes on during ego deaths, you just have to embrace it for yourself to understand.





Ok so then let me ask...how does one know for sure when they get this undefinable "Ego death" ??


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All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: Achillita]
    #21746158 - 05/31/15 08:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Love is real as well. You can literally "see" what love is in the brain. It's like saying happiness doesn't exist, or sadness, or anger. But they all exist. It's an emotion, humans have labeled these things for thousands of years across thousands of languages.

Ego death is a relatively new term. It is not completely defined, but it is a term for describing the feeling of something intense and destructive happening on psychedelics. It's literally is dissolution of your own self. It's hard to explain because it happens so very seldom, and it is different intensities each time it happens. Just like you might be a little sad, or completely depressed. Just kinda pissed, or you're furious. Ego death is a wide range of experiences describing an occasionally common experience we obtain from psychedelics.




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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: xthrx]
    #21746181 - 05/31/15 08:27 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

love may have been a bad example.

But ego death...no such thing. Sorry guys.


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I do not know its name; I call it tao.
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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21746200 - 05/31/15 08:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I think its weird you dont love your wife lol


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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21746201 - 05/31/15 08:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Assuming your first grow was from spores, the potency is going to be hit or miss.

The most mushrooms I have ever ingested was 5 dry grams and it was sheer madness.

Generally 3.5 - 7 grams of good cubes will seriously fuck your shit up.

And ego death most certainly exists :shrug: I have genuinely experienced "death" on intense tryptamine rides before, ie no sense of existing in a human form / having an identity


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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21746239 - 05/31/15 08:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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ok then genius...tell me..

What is ego death?




One simply does not explain the type of feelings and dimensions that goes on during ego deaths, you just have to embrace it for yourself to understand.





Ok so then let me ask...how does one know for sure when they get this undefinable "Ego death" ??






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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: xthrx]
    #21746264 - 05/31/15 08:46 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I think its weird you dont love your wife lol





of course I do...I was making the example that love is undefinable therefore I cannot love her.

of course I fucking love her :lol:

but I still don't know how its possible when love really cant be defined..


but like I said, love was a bad example.


back to the matter at hand...ego death does not exist because nobody can tell me what it means and how you know if it happens to you.


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Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21746275 - 05/31/15 08:48 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Bill your like... 10 years old or something?? If you are older than that, I feel sorry for your lack of knowledge. Go read a book mate.


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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: Blazer420]
    #21746300 - 05/31/15 08:54 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

"of course I do...I was making the example that love is undefinable therefore I cannot love her.

of course I fucking love her :lol:"

This is just contradiction. You can define love, just like you can define happiness. I dont know why you're stuck on this path of perception..


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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21746302 - 05/31/15 08:54 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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EGO DEATH DOESNT EXIST. I say that because its not truly defined as anything.




The closest you'd get would be something like "psychedelic dissociative transcendence" but that's still pretty vague and creates more questions than answers.

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People need to stop acting as if "ego death" is something that is attached to the psychedelic experience.




I think Leary's concept of "ego loss" was supposed to be something pretty fundamental to the psychedelic experience....which is why he called his book "The Psychedelic Experience" ("ego death" was based on some bonkers stuff by Grof about re-experiencing birth trauma).

Relating the Tibetan Book of the Dead to the mental events of a psychedelic trip was never going to result in a well-defined concept.

The frustrating thing is trying to convey the power of the kind of trip that swallows your mind like a black hole before blasting you out across the universe in a supernova of revelations and delusional mayhem.....one of the few phrases available is "ego-death" so people use it, but it ends up as a kind of label that means little more than "I tripped to the max! You better believe it!"

I think there is a core experience that it refers to; the feeling of being swallowed up by a trip that leaves no room for you to exist in - the exact nature of what happens in the resulting state of fragmented consciousness is variable but would include elements of the things I listed in another post - Death, Transcendence, Rapture, Mystical, Spiritual, Hell, Surrender, Radiance, Wonder, Void, Inferno, Unity, Everything, Ecstasy, Annihilation, Rebirth, God.

It's almost like a trip within the trip.

The problem is that even if you can define the exact state of consciousness that comes about when you lose awareness of yourself, you would still only be talking about the container, not the contents. It's the trip that occurs within that state that is interesting.....similar to the way that dreams are not the same thing as sleep.

It's a real fuckfest of a concept. I did go into some detail in other posts but that's the problem - if you need reams of explanation to even begin to define a concept then it's not much use, especially if nobody else agrees on the details....

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Ok so then let me ask...how does one know for sure when they get this undefinable "Ego death" ??




You die within the trip. Then you come back. You experience God.

Something along those lines. Something that leaves you reeling from the impossibility of it. A pure state of rapture. A phenomenal delusional euphoria that feels like you finally solved every puzzle and answered every question. When you become God.

If the trips end up like that, who gives a fuck about definitions? The problem is not that these kind of trips don't happen, its that they don't have any sensible concise definition that is particularly helpful. For that reason it's probably better to forget about "ego-death" and just talk about the trip.

With DMT it's better because "breakthrough" doesn't have so much baggage attached to the term, people say things like "I broke through and X,Y,Z happened" which is more informative. With shrooms people say "I experienced ego death" and tend to leave it at that.

P.S How many bong rippz did you say you can take?


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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: Aldebaran]
    #21746327 - 05/31/15 09:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Damn.  See now I def gotta try this.  I am working on my second grow as we speak.  I think if I don't hit ego death at half an ounce then that pretty much answers it for me.  Lol...uh btw....half an ounce...is that possible WITHOUT puking my guts out? Not that I would want to try it or anything:evil:


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    #21746338 - 05/31/15 09:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Btw my last post was meant to make you lol.  No I don't plan on eating a half lol I should clarify


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    #21746381 - 05/31/15 09:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

A couple of things I should mention -

firstly, if you wanted to get all buddhist about it, the actual "ego death" would be the perfect moment of clarity when you see reality as it truly is, without the "self" intruding in any way, a state of pristine cognition, nirvana....... but good luck maintaining that for very long on a high dose of psychedelic drugs. I'm trying to define an "ego-death" trip in realistic overall terms.

Secondly, before you get swept up in this kind of black hole, you may well have a horrifying experience of slowly escalating madness and dread, and a really hard think about why you took so many drugs.....part of the euphoria that comes later is when you realize that you are still alive.

It doesn't have to get all apocalyptic, people use the term "ego loss" for the kind of meditative spiritual trip where you lose your sense of self in a more tranquil way.....so it does mean slightly different things but they all relate back to Buddhism mainly.


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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21746604 - 05/31/15 10:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You cease to identify as a living human, and perceive through our normal sensory means. If the peak begins subsiding and you realize that you are in fact still alive, then I would say that is fair grounds to label something as ego death... Seeing as how your concept of being a living human was non-existent for a period of time.

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    #21746977 - 06/01/15 12:33 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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your experience was nowhere near an ego death, and you are asking us why you saw hallucination type affects whilst looking at yourself in the mirror???

Do you even know what you are doing dude?? Lol



:lol::facepalm3: "I ate hallucinogenic mushrooms and I started hallucinating, is this normal" buhahaha

And why in the fuck is everyone just chasing after their ego death experiences. It's not like a fucking psychedelic badge





For me the really astonishing part of an LSD or psychedelic experience is not ego death but those lighting fast ineffable visions containing arcane universal truths that you are allowed to know momentarily but then never take home.




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^^^^yeah bro!



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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21747018 - 06/01/15 12:59 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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back to the matter at hand...ego death does not exist because nobody can tell me what it means and how you know if it happens to you.





Again with your EGO Bill. You should read a bit more before making statements about things you do not understand.

This PDF  from MAPS gives you a good idea of what ego death is about.>>>http://www.maps.org/news-letters/v20n1/v20n1-40to41.pdf


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    #21747423 - 06/01/15 05:52 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

nice link^^

I think ego loss and ego death are two entirely different things. "Ego" itself has several different definitions in itself.

For me ego loss can happen quite easily on a variety of substances.  Basely losing my ability to do as I normally would. Like cross a street,pour a glass of water or speak with someone. But still knowing who I am and that these functions are still possible.

Ego death is a total loss resulting into having no idea where you are and on which plane of existence.  Strong psychedelics and or dose can almost be like a jet or rollercoaster ride in a lot of ways. Because if you get too fucked up, one has no idea where the ground is. What is real and what is not. Dmt/4hodmt/ is notorious for being great at this function.

THe fastest ego death ive ever encountered would be from smoked dmt. I always experience ego loss on mushrooms but rarely experience complete ego death anymore.

THe experiencing "god" thing is funny because ive actually seen only one god like figure in a closed eye visual.
Ganesha

I found the whole thing to be extremely curious and surreal as ive never studied Hinduism. Nor have I ever studied this character/deity until after the trip.


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    #21747506 - 06/01/15 07:11 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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back to the matter at hand...ego death does not exist because nobody can tell me what it means and how you know if it happens to you.





Again with your EGO Bill. You should read a bit more before making statements about things you do not understand.

This PDF  from MAPS gives you a good idea of what ego death is about.>>>http://www.maps.org/news-letters/v20n1/v20n1-40to41.pdf





If ego death is an actual thing then why does everyone define it differently? Why do people explain ego death and in my point of view its nothing close to ny version of ego death? Oh i know why..because its purely subjective.

My only point is that the psych experience is so compkex that reducing an experience to call it ego death doesnt do justice.

It might exist in people's minds..but is it something that can ever be scientifically STUDIED?

no.


And just because i have an opinion doesnt mean its my ego. Maybe you need to stop casting stones and look  at yourself


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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21747518 - 06/01/15 07:18 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Honestly life is a subjective thing that everyone defines differently. We as humans make up so many ideas so we can attempt to get a grasp on reality.

The whole experience of living is subjective, I don't know if you see red the same color that I see red, but we both describe it as red because we have come to associate that color with red. It's the same with ego death IMO. It's a feeling that can be so unique and different to anyone, but we call it that for an overall understanding.

Plus I like to think ego death is a spectrum of intensities on psychedelics, and not just one level that can be reached. Ego loss is just another term to describe a similar effect, but with less intensity, to ego death. Like sadness and depression.


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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: Achillita]
    #21748627 - 06/01/15 01:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

yeah..its just I here the term just thrown around so loosely that im trying to get people to realize that it really isn't a built-in aspect to psychs.

When psychs were created its not like God(or whatever) was like "ok..now at a certain stage of the high im going to instil this thing called ego-death".

ego-death is just a way of describing the feeling of one-ness and feeling like you have died and been reborn. so I guess its real...but at the same time its not because egodeath can be achieved from anything...such as looking at the stars or getting into a car-accident.


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Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: 1sttimeshroomer]
    #21748687 - 06/01/15 02:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

OP I once gave 8g to friend to tripnutz and he split it with another friend down the middle (4g freshly dried cubies for the both of them). Heres's where it gets weird. my friend who I gave the cubes to tripped balls and his friend said it didn't work/ didn't feel the effects. I don't understand how one person can trip and the other guy cant. makes no sense to me. Has anyone reported the same thing?


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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21748712 - 06/01/15 02:12 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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ego-death is just a way of describing the feeling of one-ness and feeling like you have died and been reborn. so I guess its real...




that is all..... Now stop trying to argue over actual facts... LOL


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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: UncleFester]
    #21748970 - 06/01/15 03:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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OP I once gave 8g to friend to tripnutz and he split it with another friend down the middle (4g freshly dried cubies for the both of them). Heres's where it gets weird. my friend who I gave the cubes to tripped balls and his friend said it didn't work/ didn't feel the effects. I don't understand how one person can trip and the other guy cant. makes no sense to me. Has anyone reported the same thing?



Never had that happen to me honestly. Maybe the guy who didn't trip was on medication at the time?


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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: Achillita]
    #21749069 - 06/01/15 03:27 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I asked about that too and he said he doesn't take meds which was the even more bizarre part:shrug: is there a list of meds that would de-rail your trip to funky town?


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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: UncleFester]
    #21749089 - 06/01/15 03:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I know SSRI won't let you trip unless you take high doses. And if they were taking any benzos it could have greatly reduced the trip. Like if they took xanax that day.

I'm pretty sure SSRIs stay in your system for around 3 weeks or so.


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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: Blazer420]
    #21749301 - 06/01/15 04:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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ego-death is just a way of describing the feeling of one-ness and feeling like you have died and been reborn. so I guess its real...




that is all..... Now stop trying to argue over actual facts... LOL





im not arguing...im explaining why im right.


ego-death is an overrated term to describe something 10000x more detailed than the word implies...therefore only noobs use it.

that Is all


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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21751145 - 06/02/15 12:36 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Oh dam it says your mentally ill by your name, no point in carrying this debate on LMAO!


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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: Blazer420]
    #21751167 - 06/02/15 12:44 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

This is really funny.

'ego-death is an overrated term to describe something 10000x more detailed than the word implies...therefore only noobs use it.'

That is the most retarded shit ive ever read.. Have a gold fucking ribbon


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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: 1sttimeshroomer]
    #21751869 - 06/02/15 09:21 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Damn.  See now I def gotta try this.  I am working on my second grow as we speak.  I think if I don't hit ego death at half an ounce then that pretty much answers it for me.  Lol...uh btw....half an ounce...is that possible WITHOUT puking my guts out? Not that I would want to try it or anything:evil:




Lemon Tek that shit bro!...enjoi:feelshighman:....
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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: 1sttimeshroomer]
    #21751873 - 06/02/15 09:22 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Btw my last post was meant to make you lol.  No I don't plan on eating a half lol I should clarify




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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #21752076 - 06/02/15 10:21 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

This thread  :scumbagman:  :wtfsonic:

lol jk but I can't say I've had full ego loss or death. The most I've ever done is 4.6g of cubes and I was Trippin Dragon Ball-Z I can imagine some kind of ego death to be possible on 5g or more. Because I was like one with the grass and wind that day. So out of it and blazed that I couldn't keep my eyes open. The world was fondling my very existence in most pleasurable ways. The closed eye visuals I was having were almost like vague random geometric patterns and wavelength of visible darkness? Manifesting itself into endless figures with no meaning just bliss


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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: 1sttimeshroomer]
    #21760052 - 06/04/15 01:52 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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And 2.  Why in the Sam hell was my face looking distorted, demonic and at times having deep cuts and scratches on it when I looked in the mirror?



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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: Aldebaran]
    #21760082 - 06/04/15 02:13 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

This is how I would define "ego-death":

The "ego" is a false belief/illusion. When a person's consciousness is raised by an Entheogen, they may see through a false belief. This causes the belief to "die" - thus "ego-death".

One way that Entheogens cause this is by revealing that there is another "world" that exists beyond the commonly known one.

"What is beyond earthly life shines not to the childish, or careless, or those deluded by wealth. 'This is the only world, there is no other', they say. And thus they go from death to death."
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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: FriedEgg]
    #21760112 - 06/04/15 02:34 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Also, on your next flush or another grow, don't just eat 7 grams again. The potency could be much higher than what you have now.



:werd:

sounds like the 3.5g trip was just bad genetics.  don't be foolish.  respect it or it will kick your ass.



This ... LOL

7g is one hell of a ride I would not dare to just take even though I have tripped LSD high doses more times than I can count

I usually never go over 4.5 if I can avoid it, and 4.5 is very unpleasant too usually

3g chocolates is my dose

chocolates work stronger than normal dosing btw, so you should try that
with bad genetics it gives them a boost

with chocolates I need 3g vs 3.5-4g normally (got a recipe in journal)


the beginner doses are usually 2.5g-3g max I think... , people who have tripped go up to 3.5g for normal trip


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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: lessismore]
    #21760116 - 06/04/15 02:36 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I found out when I got to 5g or 5.5g chocolates dried one time

thought they didnt work, then after 4-5 hours they suddenly started working! (had eating on full stomach!)

never forgot that trip...
and it's really no fun, because you're so unconscious you cannot trip, but also unpleasant at the same time like being paralyzed for 8 hours


If I would want an asskicking trip I'd just drink 4-4.5G with orange juice on empty stomach!

but chocolates are always better than orange juice really, for many reasons.. also work equally strong often, you will not miss intensity with 3.5g chocolates i.e. and a good batch shrooms, can be surprisingly strong, too strong sometimes suddenly for many hours - it always surprises me just how strong chocolates can hit compared to normal sometimes

or maybe its just the genetics of homegrown shrooms that surprises me, how strong they can be

sometimes you get a really strong batch...


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