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1sttimeshroomer
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Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened??
#21743004 - 05/30/15 10:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ok so I had to try my own grow. I'm sorta a big guy and I've tripped on a few different things before, and I have this rule. Never go balls to the wall until you know how you'll act. If you like what you take then go for it. So first time I ate an 8th. I was almost so disappointed I nearly threw all my grow out in the trash. Then I thought well hell I am a bigger dude so maybe I need to up it up some. Well I invited some friends to trip with me. They all ate 8ths and I decided to eat 7 grams...plus 3 papaya (whatever that digestive thing is called) enzimes and what ensued was a total fuckage of my mind. Within twenty minutes I was telling people "guys...shit is looking weird". And it was. The entire room came alive with vibrating colors that shined and glowed and objects began to actually move but we're stationary. I don't mean "oh hey that thing looks like it moved...cool". Nah man the box fan sitting on the floor actually floated the fuck away. I literally felt as if I was trapped inside a hallucination. So when they notice I am tripped out my friends decide its time for some beatles and why not play the magical mystery tour? I can not tell you how much sense that movie made but it made no sense at all. I was so in touch with my thoughts feelings....everything was funny as hell and I could not for the life of me control anything that was going on. So I have two questions for experienced trippers...
1. Was any of that the tell tale signs of the famed "ego death"?
And 2. Why in the Sam hell was my face looking distorted, demonic and at times having deep cuts and scratches on it when I looked in the mirror? I was told to try this out and I honestly did not care for what I saw. For one it was hard to focus because it seemed as if things were caving in but I literally saw my face morph into something demonic....then the image wiped away to normal and then the next thing that happened I saw deep scratches and cuts on my face the that seemed to wipe away. That kept going on and on. The fuck is that all about?
Anyways...just curious
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An eighth and a quarter of shrooms is a huuuuuuuuuuuugeeeee jump. It's not even near the double mark. It doesn't sound like ego death whatsoever.
And to the cuts and scratches, it is all subconscious. You probably took way too much. Just curious what was your 3.5 gram trip like? What made you want to "throw your grow out"?
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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: Achillita] 1
#21743834 - 05/31/15 04:52 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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your experience was nowhere near an ego death, and you are asking us why you saw hallucination type affects whilst looking at yourself in the mirror???
Do you even know what you are doing dude?? Lol
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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: Blazer420]
#21743895 - 05/31/15 05:39 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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When I ate an 8th there were very very mild visuals and color glow. No giggles not even a sense of a "trip". It was more like...ok colors are sorta...doing something, it was enough to kinda piss me off....sorta like taking half a puff of a joint and someone saying that's all you get for now lol. A close relative of mine said he tripped his nuts off an 8th and at the time I never tripped mushrooms before so I was expecting something intense and nothing much happened. I was going to toss it cause I had spent all this time and effort and I thought well shit dude an 8th is a lot and if this is as good as it gets....screw this. Then I decided to up it pretty hard to see what balls to the wall was like and all I can say is holy....shit batman. Lol sooooo glad I gave em a second chance!!
Blazer420....as far as tripping goes I am an experienced tripper on other psychs but as far as mushrooms go that was my second trip (actually first real hard trip but second time I ate shrooms I should say). I take psychedelics just because it gives me a chance to open my mind and view things in a different way...sorta just makes me think I suppose. Being that I was new to the drug I tried to seek some advice on things to do while tripping (like when rolling typically you listen to dubstep when tripping acid I usually sit and listen to beatles and watch cartoons or something ect...) someone suggested I look into the mirror but diddnt really tell me why. That's the long story of why I did that lol
Yup. 7 grams. Definitely worth it imo. I wouldn't mind upping it to 8 or higher next time that was the tits
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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: Blazer420]
#21744185 - 05/31/15 08:50 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Blazer420 said: your experience was nowhere near an ego death, and you are asking us why you saw hallucination type affects whilst looking at yourself in the mirror???
Do you even know what you are doing dude?? Lol
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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: Blazer420] 1
#21744193 - 05/31/15 08:54 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Blazer420 said: your experience was nowhere near an ego death, and you are asking us why you saw hallucination type affects whilst looking at yourself in the mirror???
Do you even know what you are doing dude?? Lol
 "I ate hallucinogenic mushrooms and I started hallucinating, is this normal" buhahaha
And why in the fuck is everyone just chasing after their ego death experiences. It's not like a fucking psychedelic badge
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MajickMuffin
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1. Doesnt sound like you achieved ego death, you were just trippin, pretty decently. If 7 made you triplike that, 10 will probably make you ego death, maybe even between 7-10.
2. What you saw in the mirror depends on the person, how they feel with themselves, alot of personal things. Not everyone will see the same tjings in the mirror. For example, when i look in the mirror my face always morphs and changes, still my own face, but i always end up giving myself a nice evil smile, which makes me look like the guy on the front cover of Warcraft 3 frozen throne. Love it, love it love it. Feel like the biggest badass on the face of the earth.
3. Keep ezperimenting man, every month or coiple weeks.youll learn to enjoy it. Ans learn from it.
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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: MajickMuffin]
#21744318 - 05/31/15 10:11 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Also, on your next flush or another grow, don't just eat 7 grams again. The potency could be much higher than what you have now.
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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: Achillita]
#21744410 - 05/31/15 10:59 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Achillita said: Also, on your next flush or another grow, don't just eat 7 grams again. The potency could be much higher than what you have now.

sounds like the 3.5g trip was just bad genetics. don't be foolish. respect it or it will kick your ass.
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Firstly, about the face thing...... it's hard to answer why your open-eye visuals manifest themselves in any particular way. It's a bit like if you dreamed that you had cuts on your face - it could be a psychological thing that relates to a fear of yours, it could be related to a specific thing you watched or heard about (e.g a scene in a film, a news report) or it could just be totally random. Stare at anything while tripping and it will probably start to look weird.
Another possible reason is that there are specific areas of the brain dedicated to recognizing very subtle differences between faces....if you are tripping and these go into overdrive the "face-morph" might be a side effect of over-activity in those brain circuits....at a guess.
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what ensued was a total fuckage of my mind....... I literally felt as if I was trapped inside a hallucination
As for the ego death thing....like the previous replies, it doesn't sound like ego death, but that feeling of being "trapped inside a hallucination" is characteristic of the loss of reality on a strong trip; at the end of that road you get "ego death". I would be cautious about deliberately aiming for it - those kind of trips can feel like you took too much and you are paying for it....punishing intensity and the feeling of "no way out". If you gradually push the dose higher, you will eventually end up in a trip that really takes over and gives you an experience so overwhelming that it feels downright supernatural.
These are a couple of posts where I attempted to give a rough description of an "ego-death" trip without getting too caught up in definitions and metaphysical stuff:
Ego death question
The trajectory of a strong trip
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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: Aldebaran]
#21744544 - 05/31/15 11:49 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I don't have an explanation for it but I've also seen my face morphing in the mirror before. It shifted between a very demonic, evil looking face to one of bliss and compassion. Good and evil I guess. I don't remember seeing cuts and scratches but I did become so enthralled by the shifting mirror that I forgot to pull my pants back up before leaving the bathroom lol. So embarrassing. But just shows how hard I was tripping. Was with only 2g + an MAOI. If you ever have weak shrooms or only a small amount left, combine with an MAOI to more than double their potency! Careful tho.
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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: Aldebaran]
#21744575 - 05/31/15 12:01 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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People talking about their ego dying. But has anyone stopped to think that we have an ego for a reason? Why would we as human beings, come with an ego if we weren't meant to have it? Perhaps it serves some function for this life, that has now been destroyed because of this ego death effect.
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Rebelutionsssss said:
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Blazer420 said: your experience was nowhere near an ego death, and you are asking us why you saw hallucination type affects whilst looking at yourself in the mirror???
Do you even know what you are doing dude?? Lol
 "I ate hallucinogenic mushrooms and I started hallucinating, is this normal" buhahaha
And why in the fuck is everyone just chasing after their ego death experiences. It's not like a fucking psychedelic badge
To be honest I really dont understand why everyone these days always post asking if they attained ego death (etc) either. Not meaning to be critical it just seems to be a new fad these days. Has a celebrity somewhere talked about his own ego death with psychedelics or something?
Day to day we walk around holding very firm and fixed conceptions as to what and who we are but a drug like LSD will show you that actually this is all largely just a bullshit illusion and all you really are is series of sensory signals that generate from god knows where.
It's interesting to speculate why we have and obviously need ego's but it seems to be definitely some kind of defence mechanism that we wouldn't stay sane long for without.
Its like seeing yourself from far above and you get a good long peak at the absurdity of the cartoon character that back down there in sanity you actually believe yourself to be on a daily basis.
There are so many posts where people talk about ego death describing it in such horribly complicated terms that it seems possible that now many newbies in the psychedelic community have absolutely no idea what it is!
Ego death is an interesting experience but its not really indicative of huge doses or the ultimate psychedelic experience. For me DMT does not even cause ego death.
LSD was for me seriously ego deranging/diminishing and salvia was actual ego death as it basically wiped out all comprehension as to where, what, and when I was. It was fucking horrible though and one of the reasons I dislike salvia. No ego whatsoever is not nice at all.
For me the really astonishing part of an LSD or psychedelic experience is not ego death but those lighting fast ineffable visions containing arcane universal truths that you are allowed to know momentarily but then never take home.
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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: bennylava]
#21744599 - 05/31/15 12:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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It's there for survival, "I" It's also there for creation purposes, "you" And then it's also there to wash away, the next step, shedding flesh. We have a big fucking step ahead of us. Think about that the next time you get comfortable.. it's coming..
1 Corinthians 15:52 - In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: wolf8312]
#21744617 - 05/31/15 12:14 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Its the same thing as "heroic doses" it's just juvenile mental masturbation... it's like how kids brag about how many beers they drank, how much of a liquor bottle they killed, how far they got with a girl, how fast they just drove their car etc.... stroking their ego, declaring their importance for the moment..
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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: wolf8312] 1
#21744625 - 05/31/15 12:17 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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It's in the nature of animals, to try and stand out..
 And we are still animals..
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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: wolf8312]
#21744631 - 05/31/15 12:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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wolf8312 said:
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Rebelutionsssss said:
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Blazer420 said: your experience was nowhere near an ego death, and you are asking us why you saw hallucination type affects whilst looking at yourself in the mirror???
Do you even know what you are doing dude?? Lol
 "I ate hallucinogenic mushrooms and I started hallucinating, is this normal" buhahaha
And why in the fuck is everyone just chasing after their ego death experiences. It's not like a fucking psychedelic badge
For me the really astonishing part of an LSD or psychedelic experience is not ego death but those lighting fast ineffable visions containing arcane universal truths that you are allowed to know momentarily but then never take home.
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I'd be careful about your dosing that high especially working with different mushrooms. Sounds like you had a shitty batch of multispore genetics and the potency wasn't that great. I've had mushrooms where 3.5 grams will rock your world, and ive had mushrooms where 3.5 grams is just a mild trip, it all depends on the mushrooms and how they were grown, If you were to take 7 grams of some decently potent grown mushrooms you would be in a different dimension. If you have to ask if it was ego death it's not, you will know in the moment that you are experiencing ego death, it's a feeling of losing your entire self and merging with universal love and becoming one, it's a very humbling and enlightening experience, you should feel as if you are actually dead and living in a "heaven" at least in my experience.
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Ego death is everything you think you are failing away and you're left with just your pure consciousness with no concepts piled on top of it. You probably fear the loss of your body like everyone else so until you overcome these fears they will keep showing you these things. I'd just lower the dose if you're not ready.
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Re: Ate 7 grams of shrooms...wtf happened?? [Re: Eggtimer]
#21744902 - 05/31/15 01:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Interesting thoughts. However, I was not chasing ego death. Personally I don't care if it ever happens to me or not. Now that I am a bit older I do not trip to party like I did as a teen. For me the psychedelic experience is more of a understanding of my life, who I am by a lowering of my vulnerabilities, seeing things for who or what they are, and just a complete different way of thinking and processing. It is liberating. We go day to day in almost a rat race of sorts thinking we need to buy what people tell us to, believe what they tell us to, feel what they tell us to. Us as human beings when you beat us to death with a concept we tend to adopt it...typically. I just find it freeing to be able to say okay, well what if all of that isn't true? Could there be another way? Or whatever.
I'm not going to lie and say the "high" wasn't fun because it obviously was...but if I was looking for a party I would go eat some molly and sweat out the night. That's just not my style any more. I was just asking if that's what it was (the ego death) and obviously it wasent. No big deal though and i still plan to trip like I always do. For a better understanding of life and self. Just my motives is all, maybe I got it wrong but imo everyone trips for their own reasons. That's mine.
Interesting thoughts though thanks for the feedback!!
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