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Re: If God exists, how can God be Eternal (without a beginning)? [Re: musiclover420]
#21747100 - 06/01/15 01:38 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ive thought about the simulation theory a couple times and well.. i mean who cares and if it is a simulation it doesnt really matter because that gives rise to a million more questions, life does feel like a simulation and actually science has proven that it has pretty much all the same properties of one.. if its a simulations all you gotta do is love it! Cause its damn good one. I personally dont believe it it but it doesnt matter to me either way. I while back after i watched a morgan freeman through the wormhole episode about it i was definitely botherd with the idea. Now i have found peace in love.. it overcomes all thos mind bending scary theorys we can so easily get hung up on.. All you gotta do is love
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Re: If God exists, how can God be Eternal (without a beginning)? [Re: rxb]
#21747489 - 06/01/15 07:00 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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rxb said: there is a box.
it holds everything.
it was here before everything.
when something got here, box was happy... box was finally full.
then there was more stuff, and box got its first consciousness
box liked having a consciousness.
then box saw, and box saw very neat things.
then box saw horrible things.
box saw everything.
then there was nothing, and box was sad.
and eventually there was something again.
box likes something better than nothing.
Ur mom must have a big box
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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Re: If God exists, how can God be Eternal (without a beginning)? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#21747742 - 06/01/15 09:12 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
Bill_Oreilly said:
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rxb said: there is a box.
it holds everything.
it was here before everything.
when something got here, box was happy... box was finally full.
then there was more stuff, and box got its first consciousness
box liked having a consciousness.
then box saw, and box saw very neat things.
then box saw horrible things.
box saw everything.
then there was nothing, and box was sad.
and eventually there was something again.
box likes something better than nothing.
Ur mom must have a big box
my mom is your mom has an infinite box
-------------------- ->$10 FLOW HOOD ALTERNATIVE <- . i cleaned a mold contaminated live culture and saved it. (might have useful applications) [quote]Enlil said: I'd be the guy with thousands of minions doing my bidding and all of the hot women locked in a cage for my use.[/quote]
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Re: If God exists, how can God be Eternal (without a beginning)? [Re: rxb]
#21747793 - 06/01/15 09:44 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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if your mom went into his moms box, is it possible his mom could exit through your moms box?
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Re: If God exists, how can God be Eternal (without a beginning)? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#21747834 - 06/01/15 10:05 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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makaveli8x8 said: if your mom went into his moms box, is it possible his mom could exit through your moms box?
i wouldnt have it any other way
-------------------- ->$10 FLOW HOOD ALTERNATIVE <- . i cleaned a mold contaminated live culture and saved it. (might have useful applications) [quote]Enlil said: I'd be the guy with thousands of minions doing my bidding and all of the hot women locked in a cage for my use.[/quote]
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Re: If God exists, how can God be Eternal (without a beginning)? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#21748077 - 06/01/15 11:42 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said: I cannot figure this mystery out.
How can God have no beginning? How can God be outside of time completely?
Can someone explain how this is possible, cause this question is really bothering me....
God doesn't exist so stop wasting your time trying to answer useless questions
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Re: If God exists, how can God be Eternal (without a beginning)? [Re: Patlal]
#21748095 - 06/01/15 11:47 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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And you know this how?
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Re: If God exists, how can God be Eternal (without a beginning)? [Re: SirShroomsAlott] 1
#21748105 - 06/01/15 11:50 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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-------------------- Omnicyclion.org higher knowledge starts here
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Re: If God exists, how can God be Eternal (without a beginning)? [Re: Asante]
#21748130 - 06/01/15 11:58 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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To say the religious god doesn't exist, is almost definitely true and has a lot of logic and is IMO a pretty rational statement, to say there is no such thing as a higher power to all of this..is something no one can know...no matter how unlikely it seems...religion has twisted the idea of what God is...making such a thing seem impossible, when really it's just our perception of what we think god is that is wrong
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Re: If God exists, how can God be Eternal (without a beginning)? [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
#21748151 - 06/01/15 12:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Exactly... but who decides who you are? Why are you you instead of me ? There are certain questions only a god like concept can answer. The religious god is a twisted idea but to say there is no such thing as a god to all this is a little to close minded to unserstand what is being asked..
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Re: If God exists, how can God be Eternal (without a beginning)? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#21748182 - 06/01/15 12:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Some believers of simulation theory state that if the simulation was started, it will exist regardless of whether or not it stays on.
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Re: If God exists, how can God be Eternal (without a beginning)? [Re: Stardust]
#21748210 - 06/01/15 12:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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thing is tho if you believe in a higher being, then it isn't that far fetched that he made contact at some time, and magically every country has a form of god, well most of them. and they all originated around the same time period.
the storys of each religion may be twisted, its almost impossible for it to not be twisted after so many years. but its possible contact was made. if something did create the universe, and us, it seems likely they would have visited us at least once, for lots of reasons.
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Re: If God exists, how can God be Eternal (without a beginning)? [Re: ModestMouse]
#21748228 - 06/01/15 12:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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ModestMouse said: Some believers of simulation theory state that if the simulation was started, it will exist regardless of whether or not it stays on.
why do they think it would stay on?
the only way it would stay on is if it wasn't a simulation, but an actual creation. like nano bots built the entire universe or something. i mean, i just don't see how a computer, or any form of a computer, could be powered forever. the greatest form of energy that we known of is suns, and even they burn out
back to the software side, i guess you could "save" the game per say. perhaps thats what sleep is
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Re: If God exists, how can God be Eternal (without a beginning)? [Re: Stardust]
#21748251 - 06/01/15 12:27 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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My logic for why God exists is based on what user Bill_Oreliey believes. In that God somehow put itself into being.
Its the same with life. I believe life evolved from primative bacteria billions of years ago in primal soups bubbling away right here on Earth.
And as life came into being on this perfectly-viable planet, God must have being born somehow from nothing. A weird concept, but as Bill puts it "God exists cause it wants to."
the problem is you can never prove the existance of God since God is outside our observable dimensions.
hence, u got to take a leap of Faith that a super-powerful being of some sort created the whole Universe (multiverse?) out of Love. Why did God create the Universe? Maybe God just wants to do something with Gods power in some physical, tangible way to express Itself. Who knows.
Sure, there is violence, famine, disease, death, suffering, saddness, pain, etc. Its not perfect here by any stretch, maybe all the problems of the world are for us to figure out. Maybe God created all those things on accident or are just unavoidable. I honestly dont know.
If you chose not to believe in God, thats totally fine with me. I just want to believe that all of this matter, time, space and experiences of this Universe has some kind thoughtful purpose behind it
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Re: If God exists, how can God be Eternal (without a beginning)? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#21748274 - 06/01/15 12:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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the simulation is a perfect representation of reality.
-------------------- ->$10 FLOW HOOD ALTERNATIVE <- . i cleaned a mold contaminated live culture and saved it. (might have useful applications) [quote]Enlil said: I'd be the guy with thousands of minions doing my bidding and all of the hot women locked in a cage for my use.[/quote]
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Re: If God exists, how can God be Eternal (without a beginning)? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#21748297 - 06/01/15 12:34 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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makaveli8x8 said: thing is tho if you believe in a higher being, then it isn't that far fetched that he made contact at some time, and magically every country has a form of god, well most of them. and they all originated around the same time period.
the storys of each religion may be twisted, its almost impossible for it to not be twisted after so many years. but its possible contact was made. if something did create the universe, and us, it seems likely they would have visited us at least once, for lots of reasons.
If there is a god, that means he/she/it created us and every single thing in this universe, in that sense everything came from god, everything would be part of god, it would be far fetched for him to visit us, because it would only be an illusion that we would be separate from god, since we came from him, we are part of him, he would not need to visit us because we are all part of him...and he would be all of us.
This has a slight religious outlook but I only phrased it like that because you said it's possible religion has part of it and got twisted the rest of the way
Religious gods do not in anyway stem from the same time period....thousands of years apart even, and even newer ones that are somehow gaining credibility and in the future will have a lot of its bulls hit shrouded in mystery like today's major religions. Mormon ism and scientology being the main two that come to mind
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Re: If God exists, how can God be Eternal (without a beginning)? [Re: rxb]
#21748300 - 06/01/15 12:35 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I agree with logical. Chaos
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Re: If God exists, how can God be Eternal (without a beginning)? [Re: Stardust]
#21748313 - 06/01/15 12:38 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Jesus has been dead for a long time, end of story.
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Re: If God exists, how can God be Eternal (without a beginning)? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#21748323 - 06/01/15 12:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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makaveli8x8 said:
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ModestMouse said: Some believers of simulation theory state that if the simulation was started, it will exist regardless of whether or not it stays on.
why do they think it would stay on?
the only way it would stay on is if it wasn't a simulation, but an actual creation. like nano bots built the entire universe or something. i mean, i just don't see how a computer, or any form of a computer, could be powered forever. the greatest form of energy that we known of is suns, and even they burn out
back to the software side, i guess you could "save" the game per say. perhaps thats what sleep is
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Re: If God exists, how can God be Eternal (without a beginning)? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#21748329 - 06/01/15 12:43 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Innit this a mushroom site? Eat 4g+ and stop trying to rationalize such a topic
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