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Re: If God exists, how can God be Eternal (without a beginning)? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#21746095 - 05/31/15 08:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I've always thought about time being correlated with god. Time is essential to anything. Shit doesn't happen without time. Time basically doesn't exist, it's just a way to keep track of shit. Then you got how time is cyclical but then the displacement would always be 0 if that was true.
i always kind of thought about the universe as how halo 2 maps used to be setup. You'd have the world we are in now but if you found the glitch you could hang out in the infinite bullshit area but there was really no purpose because without the surround environment you don't have anything for the brain to reflect on.
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Re: If God exists, how can God be Eternal (without a beginning)? [Re: Gorlax]
#21746290 - 05/31/15 08:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Multiple multiverses.
Now if that doesn't boggle the mind nothing will.
The best part Is that scientists say its probably that multiple multiverses exist.
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Re: If God exists, how can God be Eternal (without a beginning)? [Re: rxb]
#21746311 - 05/31/15 08:56 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
rxb said: if god is "the box that holds everything"
that box still exists when there is nothing.
Yeah but what's outside the box? A Taco Bell?
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Re: If God exists, how can God be Eternal (without a beginning)? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#21746312 - 05/31/15 08:56 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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even if multiple multiple multiple verses exist....
they are all in the box that holds everything
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Re: If God exists, how can God be Eternal (without a beginning)? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#21746319 - 05/31/15 08:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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man, it there are multiple collections of multiverses, and a Heaven dimension exists, then the Heaven Dimension must be SUPER crowded!
That would be insane if in the far far future, like 2000 years or more from now, Humans develop technology to travel into other Universes.
How crazy would that be?
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Re: If God exists, how can God be Eternal (without a beginning)? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#21746324 - 05/31/15 08:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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you know whats crazy, is that the box that holds everything always watches when you masturbate.
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Re: If God exists, how can God be Eternal (without a beginning)? [Re: rxb]
#21746328 - 05/31/15 09:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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God doesn't exist -> Therefore no paradox -> Time is just an illusion of the current state of reality -> Events happen formed by matter which was formed by ?????? (God?) -> Paradox -> Nobody knows -> LOL at all human beings
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Re: If God exists, how can God be Eternal (without a beginning)? [Re: Uzziel]
#21746385 - 05/31/15 09:16 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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there is a box.
it holds everything.
it was here before everything.
when something got here, box was happy... box was finally full.
then there was more stuff, and box got its first consciousness
box liked having a consciousness.
then box saw, and box saw very neat things.
then box saw horrible things.
box saw everything.
then there was nothing, and box was sad.
and eventually there was something again.
box likes something better than nothing.
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Re: If God exists, how can God be Eternal (without a beginning)? [Re: rxb]
#21746397 - 05/31/15 09:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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There is no time. Time is a conceptual illusion. nothing trully has a beginning or an end..
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Re: If God exists, how can God be Eternal (without a beginning)? [Re: Stardust]
#21746404 - 05/31/15 09:21 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
Stardust said: There is no time. Time is a conceptual illusion. nothing trully has a beginning or an end..
that is true.
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Re: If God exists, how can God be Eternal (without a beginning)? [Re: rxb]
#21746417 - 05/31/15 09:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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and even tho there is no time. you can change things.
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Re: If God exists, how can God be Eternal (without a beginning)? [Re: rxb]
#21746426 - 05/31/15 09:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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And if you say there is a "box" that hold everything.. then what holds the box? That is also part of this "everything" that you are talking about that is also somthing. This realm is limitless there are no boundaries how could there be? If anythin or everytjing is contained there has to be a container and that is a paradox because thats part of this everything.. the thing is that the universe contains its self. It expands into its self from itsels like an infaltable ballon wich is still just a 2 demintional interpretation.
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Re: If God exists, how can God be Eternal (without a beginning)? [Re: Stardust]
#21746429 - 05/31/15 09:27 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yes everything is always changing. Nothing ever stays the same
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Re: If God exists, how can God be Eternal (without a beginning)? [Re: Stardust]
#21746432 - 05/31/15 09:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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the box is a concept that cant be held. the box which holds everything is in the box that holds everything. so that when that infinity gets crowded otherthings pop out like weasels.
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Re: If God exists, how can God be Eternal (without a beginning)? [Re: rxb]
#21746451 - 05/31/15 09:34 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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when this happens... there is a big bang... and eventually someone comes up with a theory.
what they dont know is that the person coming up with the theory is a tiny speck which makes up a tiny portion of a glint in the universe... which is just a blip on the box that holds everything because of its issue with holding itself.
i too hold myself, i do this to pay respect to the box that holds everything... and its dog.
the dog of the box that holds everything.
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Re: If God exists, how can God be Eternal (without a beginning)? [Re: rxb]
#21746725 - 05/31/15 10:45 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Could a hyper-dimensional eternal being be a box?
Or would it be a hyper-box?
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Re: If God exists, how can God be Eternal (without a beginning)? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#21746852 - 05/31/15 11:39 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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with the simulation theory, if we were in one, shouldn't, like at some point, the power should have went out by now? i mean even if you had access to alien power sources, shouldn't like, someone trip over a wire or something, you'd expect after however many millions of years, at some point, they would have fucked up some how and the power went out.
if it did, what would our experience of that feel like? what would we see?
earth would be the ultimate game tho right? think about it, spiders in the corners of your wall = them watching you
bugs n shit all a bunch of mini games
then politics, gov, war, economy
but then how would they access that to play i wonder, some people are fake? or are we the ones playing?
i guess the ultimate game would be the one you wouldn't know you were playing, to make it seem more real
why is it, that i feel like the box HAD to be created, and then whatever created it had to be created. every part of life, has a beginning and a end, everything is given birth and had parents of one form.
the beginning was most likely a stream of atoms or smaller, filling up the box. black holes suck things in, they must be sucking what our box created, and using it to fill a new box.
then there is dark matter, which can't be seen, its like dark matter is a bunch of tiny black holes almost
thing is, if a blackhole was the beginning of our box, being filled with atoms and such, how is our universe expanding? i guess the other side of a blackhole could be a bubble, and bubbles being filled would expand, but, the atoms would fill one area mostly right, so our universe would have a big clump of shit in one area
then the other thing is, why does our universe have so many other blackholes? wouldn't a new blackhole fuck us up and suck us out, i guess they are doing that slowly but i mean, its been a long time, why havn't we all been slowly sucked into them by now.
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Re: If God exists, how can God be Eternal (without a beginning)? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#21746906 - 06/01/15 12:06 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well the way we experience life is definitely like a simulation. I read somewhere that life is actually 2d and we are wired to perceive it as a physical 3d dimensional realm but in actuality its not. Our eyes view and interpret images in the finest pixels ever and we are constantly viewing and interpreting things in our minds. If thats not a simulation then I don't know what is. If you've done high doses of any psychedelic you will know this as well. What we see isn't what is really here. How ever that does not mean that we all exist within an actual computer simulation like the theory states. It just means since our bodies are organic machines life to us is a virtual simulation. Take a dream for example while you are in it you swear that it is real and don't realize that it is fake until you wake up. Sometimes your body reacts to dreams as if they were real. There is a huge similarity between dreams and actual life. They're both a series of images interpreted by the brain.
Black holes are merely the result of massive stars that died. They create explosions so big and powerful that they leave tears in the fabric of the universe. They're holes in the box they're not responsible for the box in itself
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Re: If God exists, how can God be Eternal (without a beginning)? [Re: LiquidVisions] 1
#21746930 - 06/01/15 12:14 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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We'll find out eventually :P this is something I try not to get too hung up on.. it's fun to ponder, but really we won't know until we know. Spread good vibes & enjoy the ride!
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Re: If God exists, how can God be Eternal (without a beginning)? [Re: The5thBeatle] 1
#21746962 - 06/01/15 12:28 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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But what if life is a puzzle waiting to be "solved"
Definitely is good to not get hung up on some of the more ineffable mysteries of life though. Also very fun to ponder like you said.
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