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Re: If God exists, how can God be Eternal (without a beginning)? [Re: rxb]
#21742943 - 05/30/15 10:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_dilation
now if you ask me this is just evidence that our simulation code has a bug 
but no matter how you look at it, time is subjective.
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Re: If God exists, how can God be Eternal (without a beginning)? [Re: rxb]
#21743109 - 05/30/15 11:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Simulation suck a chode!
Eat 300mg of MXE and simulate being a free floating god for gods sake and then we'll understand how perfectly bugged we are
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Re: If God exists, how can God be Eternal (without a beginning)? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 2
#21743786 - 05/31/15 04:24 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said: I cannot figure this mystery out.
How can God have no beginning? How can God be outside of time completely?
Can someone explain how this is possible, cause this question is really bothering me....
Because God's not just beyond the laws of time and space, but also the rules of basic logic and reasoning.
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Re: If God exists, how can God be Eternal (without a beginning)? [Re: NotTheDevil]
#21743791 - 05/31/15 04:29 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: If God exists, how can God be Eternal (without a beginning)? [Re: NotTheDevil]
#21743795 - 05/31/15 04:32 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: If God exists, how can God be Eternal (without a beginning)? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#21743808 - 05/31/15 04:41 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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How can a man be outside of a mouth? Its because a mouth is entirely contained within a man, a part of him.
The same with God and time. Within God is encompassed all of time and because of that God is eternal, God transcends the limitation of time.
God is greater than the limits we see because God is all things, these limits, and beyond.
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Re: If God exists, how can God be Eternal (without a beginning)? [Re: Asante]
#21743946 - 05/31/15 06:20 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Eternity cannot be comprehended by the human mind. So even if i could explain it, nobody would understand anyway.
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Re: If God exists, how can God be Eternal (without a beginning)? [Re: stratocast]
#21744100 - 05/31/15 08:00 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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God (an invisible woman that patrols outerspace, loves planet earth, spies on 7 billion humans simulatenously, loves humans (even though 30K children starve to death a day because she didn't design earth very well)), etc., is a primitive invention of early humans.
Back then they had no electricity, thought demons made you sick, life expectancy was less than 30, you were lucky to survive pregnancy, no running water, no agriculture, no such thing as paper, air conditioning, plumbing, etc. Anyone who lives in the modern age and thinks that these primitive humans were correct in believing that an invisible woman lives in the sky and secretly loves humans is a complete imbecile.
You guys don't think very deeply, any question that doesn't have an answer does not mean God did it. Or even worse, you just make something up, and boom! you have the answer.
- How can God not have a beginning? "Because God can".
- It takes 222 years to count 7 billion humans (at rate of 1/second). How can God watch all of us simultaneously while listening to prayers and answering them? "Because She is God."
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Re: If God exists, how can God be Eternal (without a beginning)? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#21744139 - 05/31/15 08:23 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think one of the biggest issues in understanding god, is the tendency to personify. It's natural to use our human condition as a reference point but it's just not what god is.
God is everything that is and isn't and every shade in between. The chaos, the perfection. I believe god is every blade of grass, every thought, everything.
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Re: If God exists, how can God be Eternal (without a beginning)? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 2
#21744302 - 05/31/15 10:07 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Energy cannot be created or destroyed so I don't really believe anything has a beginning or end, only changes.
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Re: If God exists, how can God be Eternal (without a beginning)? [Re: Asante]
#21744383 - 05/31/15 10:48 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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So, if God is outside of time, does God know all the entireity of time, into the future?
And how is that possible when humans have free will? Are we all that predictable that the future is known by God?
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#21744399 - 05/31/15 10:55 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: If God exists, how can God be Eternal (without a beginning)? [Re: rxb]
#21744427 - 05/31/15 11:06 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Nigga that's recursion not regression
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Re: If God exists, how can God be Eternal (without a beginning)? [Re: fapjack]
#21744430 - 05/31/15 11:08 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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fapjack said: Energy cannot be created or destroyed so I don't really believe anything has a beginning or end, only changes.
There ya go. Science!
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Re: If God exists, how can God be Eternal (without a beginning)? [Re: Sanguin3]
#21744449 - 05/31/15 11:13 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Sanguin3 said: Oh boy here we go…
I believe that God does know the future in its entirety, how could he not? As far as free will, knowing something will happen does not necessarily mean he caused it to happen. He could know what our decisions will be while still letting us choose. I can give my dog a choice between a vegetable and a steak and I know what he'll choose every time.
Where it gets iffy for me is does God create everyone with certain personalities and tendencies? If so you could argue he gives us certain traits to influence our decisions one way or another.
It does when he created it...
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Re: If God exists, how can God be Eternal (without a beginning)? [Re: NotTheDevil]
#21744495 - 05/31/15 11:26 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Perhaps he's been living longer than you could even fathom? I dunno I'm agnostic and have read all the major books. I believe there are things that we can't even comprehend happening.
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Re: If God exists, how can God be Eternal (without a beginning)? [Re: Enjoywho]
#21744500 - 05/31/15 11:29 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I believe there are things that you can't even comprehend not comprehending happening
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Re: If God exists, how can God be Eternal (without a beginning)? [Re: ModestMouse]
#21744504 - 05/31/15 11:30 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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ModestMouse said: I believe there are things that you can't even comprehend not comprehending happening
Agreed
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Re: If God exists, how can God be Eternal (without a beginning)? [Re: Enjoywho]
#21744603 - 05/31/15 12:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Theyre actually in the process of testing whether or not this is a simulation as we speak. The basic concept is that if it was a simulation its resolution wouldnt be perfect. Eventually the location of things would be lost in noise, which were working on detecting. Finding out that objects "edges" are only tracked to a finite degree and not exactly would have such far reaching implications that it would be blow anything weve discovered so far out of the water.
http://m.phys.org/news/2014-08-d-hologram-fermilab-nature-universe.html
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Re: If God exists, how can God be Eternal (without a beginning)? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#21744641 - 05/31/15 12:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said: So, if God is outside of time, does God know all the entireity of time, into the future?
And how is that possible when humans have free will?
We do not have free will.
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