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fromthestars


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My grow, friends, and money
#21742518 - 05/30/15 08:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I've told a few trusted friends that I'm growing mushrooms. This is my first grow. All of their responses are, "OMG I want to partake with you." This is totally great. But I don't think they realize how much money, time, and effort I put into the grow. Basically I want to cover my costs because I'm about to be a student and finances are an issue.
I don't know how to bring this up with them. What would/do you say?
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Re: My grow, friends, and money [Re: fromthestars] 3
#21742554 - 05/30/15 08:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Too late. You already fucked up. Don't tell anyone, that's part of why this site exists...just talk to us when you feel like flapping your gums.
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Re: My grow, friends, and money [Re: Matt87]
#21742603 - 05/30/15 08:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Explain the situation to them. People are usually pretty reasonable if you communicate properly with them.
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fromthestars


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Re: My grow, friends, and money [Re: HardTrippin]
#21742610 - 05/30/15 08:43 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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What's "properly" - that's what I'm struggling with..
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fromthestars said: I've told a few trusted friends that I'm growing mushrooms. This is my first grow. All of their responses are, "OMG I want to partake with you." This is totally great. But I don't think they realize how much money, time, and effort I put into the grow. Basically I want to cover my costs because I'm about to be a student and finances are an issue.
I don't know how to bring this up with them. What would/do you say?
This has nothing to do with Philosophy, Sociology & Psychology.
This kind of stuff belongs in the Pub 
What is happening to this place? It's like the mods are on strike or something.
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Now now.... Psychology could certainly be a foundation for this post. Don't dismiss questions so quickly.
Psychologically speaking you talking to your friends about this has much to do with the esteem you carry. You say to friends "Friends, I've spent much time and money on this grow and if you wish to partake you owe me X amount of dollars." Seems to be you are apprehensive to do this? Why? This is psychology. What fear, doubt, worry do you have that prevents you from requesting monetary payments from said "friends"?
My opinion is this. You portray your self as a high school age teenager. Your "Friends dont give a shit about your effort and want your outcome. a few may be like "sure dude of course you rock heres 20 bucks" just be careful is my advice. Shrooms are not a party "drug" so please dont treat them as such. take them alone and use them to further your knowledge or expand your conciousness. I took shroom as a teen for the hahahaha fuckin A dude effect and it is a poor one"
that is all
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Re: My grow, friends, and money [Re: fromthestars] 2
#21743588 - 05/31/15 02:07 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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the people closest to you are the ones you need to worry about. you done fucked up.
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sociology's and the pub's Venn diagram circles have so much overlap in they're intersection the two forums can be considered interchangeble.
Edited by falcon (05/31/15 05:51 AM)
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Re: My grow, friends, and money [Re: falcon]
#21744570 - 05/31/15 11:58 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah i have to agree with everyone. Best, safest thing to do is stop growing for a few months and tell everyone that your setup was "destroyed" or that you can't continue to grow because of how your house is so cross contaminated.
Then when everyone thinks you arent the producer, tell them you found a connection for shrooms. Even that is risky but at least nobody will know you are manufacturing a schedule I narcotic.
Never tell anyone, even your houseplant, that you are committing a felony punishable by 3 to 7 years in prison on average.
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Cognitive_Shift said: This has nothing to do with Philosophy, Sociology & Psychology.
This kind of stuff belongs in the Pub 
What is happening to this place? It's like the mods are on strike or something.
I put this in the psychology forum because I wanted people to discuss what the possible psychological reactions would be to different ways of asking and hopefully find the most constructive way of broaching the subject.
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Spankle said: Psychologically speaking you talking to your friends about this has much to do with the esteem you carry. You say to friends "Friends, I've spent much time and money on this grow and if you wish to partake you owe me X amount of dollars." Seems to be you are apprehensive to do this? Why? This is psychology. What fear, doubt, worry do you have that prevents you from requesting monetary payments from said "friends"?
Yes that is definitely it. The fear is that they will think I'm not their friend because I asked for payment. Don't like to lean on people.
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Spankle said:My opinion is this. You portray your self as a high school age teenager. Your "Friends dont give a shit about your effort and want your outcome. a few may be like "sure dude of course you rock heres 20 bucks" just be careful is my advice. Shrooms are not a party "drug" so please dont treat them as such. take them alone and use them to further your knowledge or expand your conciousness. I took shroom as a teen for the hahahaha fuckin A dude effect and it is a poor one"
I appreciate your first paragraph, but, um, this one frankly confuses the hell out of me! No idea what you're saying here. Are you saying that in my post I come off as a high school teenager? Or are you suggesting that in the shroom transaction that should I comport myself as a high school teenager and give all that advice to my friends about shrooms not being a party drug? So confused hahaha!
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the people closest to you are the ones you need to worry about. you done fucked up.
Thank you for your constructive feedback! But considering that you say you're a "RUINER" and that "who cares the least has the power." With all due respect, I hesitate to take what you say to heart.
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Toadstool5 said: Yeah i have to agree with everyone. Best, safest thing to do is stop growing for a few months and tell everyone that your setup was "destroyed" or that you can't continue to grow because of how your house is so cross contaminated.
Then when everyone thinks you arent the producer, tell them you found a connection for shrooms. Even that is risky but at least nobody will know you are manufacturing a schedule I narcotic.
Never tell anyone, even your houseplant, that you are committing a felony punishable by 3 to 7 years in prison on average. 
Thanks Toadstool5 for the advice. I don't think that will be necessary. I trust my friends more than that and don't want to construct an elaborate lie for them. And I don't think the consequences in Canada are that severe.
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"Hey, can you help me out with a bit of cash? I'll pay you back in shrooms."
or, if you've seen How High...
"Got brown rice flower?" *nods* "Got spores?" *nods*
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Thanks Toadstool5 for the advice. I don't think that will be necessary. I trust my friends more than that and don't want to construct an elaborate lie for them. And I don't think the consequences in Canada are that severe.
I'm a Canadian, I have good friends. What Toadstool suggests is just smart living. If you aren't going to change the circumstance take his approach with new people from here out. No one needs to be "this guy that grows it" that everybody knows. the penalty for your grow op is a slap on the wrist the penalty for a distribution ring is much greater. Be careful first, but trust who you've got to trust I suppose.
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Re: My grow, friends, and money (moved) [Re: fromthestars]
#21762267 - 06/04/15 04:21 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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This thread was moved from Philosophy, Sociology & Psychology.
Reason: Not suited for PS&P, you'll get better responses here.
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Re: My grow, friends, and money (moved) [Re: CosmicJoke]
#21762316 - 06/04/15 04:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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just give em away bro. unless u;ve got like a ton of friends. u wont make much selling them to ur closest friends anyway, nothing that will cover ur student finances at the least, maybe it'll buy u couple meals buts that's it..
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fromthestars said: I've told a few trusted friends that I'm growing mushrooms.
Fail from the get go.
Where you from OP?
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Yeah like others have said you shouldn't really tell anyone. Unless you know for a fact that person doesn't talk much.
I had a medical grow that was legal and I kept that a secret. I told a few friends because it was legal so I didn't care much. I kid you not one of the kids I've known forever is just stupid. He would invite people over and bring up the grow like totally forgetting I didn't want people to know. It's more of a safety concern then even a legal concern. He was basically the splinter cell in my operation. It never led to problems because everyone I told was relatively normal but if you are around sketchy people then that could all change.
You get to learn who will talk and who won't. With shrooms I'd be a lot more sketched out because those are totally illegal and you will get fucked hands down.
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Re: My grow, friends, and money [Re: Gorlax]
#21762366 - 06/04/15 04:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah I told only two friends something that I didn't want to get around a long time ago, next thing you know I had the most random of people asking me about it, even bartenders who knew me.
I never told the one a single thing that involved trust again.
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Re: My grow, friends, and money (moved) [Re: zZZz]
#21762388 - 06/04/15 05:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm going to give it one more good try. People are pointing out your probable age because, like it or not, older people are typically smarter. Age does give wisdom. These guys are right though.. There's no reason to tell your friends. You may not get turned on, but word will get around. And it's nearly impossible to determine how someone will react on psychedelics, so it's not unlikely for someone to have a bad trip and say call the cops? Or say your mushrooms are poisoned or whatever.
And you should simply start talking about the money you spent on growing them and stuff and, if they are grade A friends, they will automatically offer money, you won't have to ask. If they don't, those are the people who will talk about your grow.
Better safe then sorry man. You got nothing to gain telling them and everything to lose getting caught. No benefits
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Re: My grow, friends, and money [Re: Matt87]
#21762399 - 06/04/15 05:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Matt87 said: Too late. You already fucked up. Don't tell anyone, that's part of why this site exists...just talk to us when you feel like flapping your gums.
Yeah that's a true rookie mistake,even telling close friends u have a pot grow can go sour quick. You are right though the do not understand the labors of growing something like that but you're average person doesn't really care.
You might be able to say hey this shit ain't free but GL on that
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Yeah I don't think I'd tell anyone about mushrooms because when people have a bad trip they aren't really normal.
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Re: My grow, friends, and money [Re: Gorlax]
#21762625 - 06/04/15 06:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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When I used to grow mushrooms, I would just tell people that I "used to grow mushrooms a few years ago". That way I get to run my stupid mouth about it, and they think I stopped doing it a couple years ago. In fact, I could even be doing it right now, and you'd never know.
Seriously though it's been a few years.
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Re: My grow, friends, and money [Re: drr]
#21762668 - 06/04/15 06:32 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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In regards to the actual question asked....
A couple years ago I was growing and stupidly talking about it with some people - ones that I felt were harmless and trustworthy but nonetheless stupid. But this female friend of mine was dead set on doing it herself. She wanted me to teach her how to do it and help her get all the supplies. She gave me money with a little extra for my trouble, to order her spores and get everything together that she'd need to grow them, and promised she'd hook me up with some in the end too. I ordered her the spores. I went and bought her a plastic container to make an SGFC, jars, verm, perlite, etc. I even drilled the holes in the SGFC for her. I came over to her house and showed her how to steam sterilize the jars. We let them cool for a night, I called her the next day to say I could come over and show her how to inject the spores.... And she said she was busy. I wasn't about to put any more effort into it so I figured she'd call me when she's ready to inject the spores. Well she didn't call me back again until two weeks later. I told her that at this point I'd like to run the jars through the steam again just to be safe, she said she didn't have time for that right now, and said she'd call me when she has time> Didn't hear from her about it again and I'm assuming she left the jars sitting there forever until she finally threw everything away or whatever. I have no idea. Oh well, not my problem, I did more than my part to help...
If somebody doesn't have the motivation and brains to figure it out and make it happen on their own, they're not serious about it. They're just latching on to your idea. Tell them "sure, someday we can do that" and just give them some mushrooms to eat. They'll lose interest pretty soon.
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Re: My grow, friends, and money [Re: drr]
#21762851 - 06/04/15 07:14 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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OP, I know it has already been repeated but don't tell anyone you are growing. Nothing EVER good comes out of that. People like to gossip. When the time comes, tell them you have a hookup through an imaginary 3rd party.
It'll make your life easier.
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Re: My grow, friends, and money [Re: Spankle]
#21762859 - 06/04/15 07:16 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Spankle said: Now now.... Psychology could certainly be a foundation for this post. Don't dismiss questions so quickly.
Psychologically speaking you talking to your friends about this has much to do with the esteem you carry. You say to friends "Friends, I've spent much time and money on this grow and if you wish to partake you owe me X amount of dollars." Seems to be you are apprehensive to do this? Why? This is psychology. What fear, doubt, worry do you have that prevents you from requesting monetary payments from said "friends
Treat it like you're going in on a case of beer.
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