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Selling spore syringes
#21742445 - 05/30/15 08:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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If I were to start a small online business selling psilocybe cubensis spore syringes, how much attention would this attract from LE and what kinds of things would I have to worry about, if anything?
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Anonymous #2
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A gud question-o indeed.
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mustangbob3
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team up with someone in a legal country to grow for you... he send you the prints> you make and distribute the syringes.
its been done before and is legal too.
only takes 2 of you and super easy to set up- just need a good reputation and treat your customers well and then we may see you as a sponsor soon enough
damn it order prints from FSRE for 2 euro make 5-10 syringes then market at 10 euros a syringe. set up business over night any genetics you like cubes or otherwise
i thought about it before but seemed immoral to me lol
also shayana shop sell bulk spore suspension 1l whatever cube you want. suck up into syringes and sell... thats what they do it for lol
edit: shayanna dont do bulk now sorry but here is an alternative- never used them so no idea quality or reliability.
https://www.sporestore.com/product.php?xProd=44
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Edited by mustangbob3 (05/31/15 02:56 AM)
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Alan Rockefeller
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mustangbob3 said: team up with someone in a legal country to grow for you... he send you the prints> you make and distribute the syringes.
There are no legal countries, and no one does that.
I haven't heard any spore vendors complaining about heat recently, so I think you would be fine.
If you want less risk keep a clean house, but if you are willing to go down for a small grow that is also fine. It's not a huge deal in some places.
It would be smart to buy the prints from someone - for example buy 1000 clean prints for $1000 from a domestic grower.
From a legal standpoint, there exist some rather heavy handed laws about drug manufacture conspiracy. No one has complained about being hit with those recently, but it could happen. Not giving grow advice and marking them for microscopic use might help a bit.
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mustangbob3
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no legal countries? ok tolerated it a better word 
so that never happens? so all spore suppliers grow their own mushrooms for spores? even uk vendors?
i know a couple of vendors that actually advertise online to 'earn money from your printing skills' wanting people who grow to supply prints in exactly this manner for later distribution. 
even ralph does it im sure your aware of this!!!
http://www.ralphstersspores.com/CAN/
check right at the bottom.
i personaly know two english vendors that do the same, so it does happen alan!!
Edited by mustangbob3 (06/01/15 02:42 AM)
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Dr.Satan
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HOW you advertise them is everything. NEVER give grow tips or imply that the spores be used for cultivation. NEVER. Also know the laws of the country you plan to primarily distribute to. For example know which states have made spores illegal (I believe there is three, but don't remember them off the top of my head). Check out successful vendors sites in detail and observe the techniques they use to distance themselves from potential incrimination.
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Re: Selling spore syringes [Re: Dr.Satan]
#21879350 - 06/30/15 05:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Dr.Satan said: HOW you advertise them is everything. NEVER give grow tips or imply that the spores be used for cultivation. NEVER. Also know the laws of the country you plan to primarily distribute to. For example know which states have made spores illegal (I believe there is three, but don't remember them off the top of my head). Check out successful vendors sites in detail and observe the techniques they use to distance themselves from potential incrimination.
Those state spore laws don't really get enforced, so I wouldn't worry too much about shipping there.
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Dr.Satan
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Dr.Satan said: HOW you advertise them is everything. NEVER give grow tips or imply that the spores be used for cultivation. NEVER. Also know the laws of the country you plan to primarily distribute to. For example know which states have made spores illegal (I believe there is three, but don't remember them off the top of my head). Check out successful vendors sites in detail and observe the techniques they use to distance themselves from potential incrimination.
Those state spore laws don't really get enforced, so I wouldn't worry too much about shipping there.
Yea, but if you become a target by LE then you definitely don't want to give them any way to take ya down.
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Re: Selling spore syringes [Re: Dr.Satan]
#21883098 - 07/01/15 02:25 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Dr.Satan said: Yea, but if you become a target by LE then you definitely don't want to give them any way to take ya down.
They already have the laws they need to take down spore vendors - conspiracy to manufacture a controlled substance. A much more serious charge than any of the state spore rules.
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Dr.Satan
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Dr.Satan said: Yea, but if you become a target by LE then you definitely don't want to give them any way to take ya down.
They already have the laws they need to take down spore vendors - conspiracy to manufacture a controlled substance. A much more serious charge than any of the state spore rules.
Of course, but they have to prove you were selling spores with the intention of getting them into the hands of cultivators. This is exactly why I was telling him to observe the techniques used to keep from incriminating yourself used by popular spore sites. Now if they want to bad enough I'm sure they could find something to take down any vendor, but I'm just saying you don't want to make yourself an easy target.
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Re: Selling spore syringes [Re: Dr.Satan]
#21994741 - 07/25/15 11:11 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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every time I have ever ordered them, which has been years ago. they came with a disclaimer that said they were for microscopy use only, and in the right conditions they may germinate and at which point they become illegal and must be destroyed. and that the seller is not liable for any misuse.
I have had spores germinate in the syringe before during shipping? buy a spore syringe get an liquid culture syringe. I am assuming that because they were shipped in warm months that the heat caused them to germinate and then cannibalize the other spores?
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