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Eagerhunter
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Peach woods chips for Ps subaerugenosa?
#21741827 - 05/30/15 05:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have a peach tree that is about to go into the wood chipper. Can anyone here enlighten me as to whether this will be a suitable substrate for Psilocybe subaerugenosa? I figure that they are not that fussy in terms of what they will grow on as long as it's not too resinous. However, given the fact that this is my third season attempting to establish a domestic bed, which has been only very marginally successful thus far, I don't want to waste the small amount of stem butt mycelium that I have on unsuitable wood types. Other possibilities that are available to me (without resorting to roaming the streets at night with a pruning saw) are Pohutukawa, Feijoa, Griselinia (Puka), or Karaka.
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Re: Peach woods chips for Ps subaerugenosa? [Re: Eagerhunter]
#21742057 - 05/30/15 06:14 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I would imagine peach would do just fine.
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NumeroEno
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Re: Peach woods chips for Ps subaerugenosa? [Re: RyeJar]
#21742083 - 05/30/15 06:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm sure it would do great. All the cyanescens complex species chow down on any deciduous wood. I wish I had access to a wood chipper 
I've got some subaeruginosa on agar right now. I was going to inoculate alder chips with grain spawn. I have no idea what they grow on in Australia but their American cousins love alder.
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Eagerhunter
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Re: Peach woods chips for Ps subaerugenosa? [Re: NumeroEno]
#21742136 - 05/30/15 06:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thanks guys. It turns out that this is more of a shredder than chipper, in that it makes fine (small) chips, rather than the larger ones I was hoping for. So I might have to do a bit of manual work with the lopping shears to get a good range of sizes. + the bloody thing's jammed and so I'll probably spend the rest of the day dismantling and reassembling it! At least I got through half the tree. Also I must confess that my main motivation for using it was to "come to an agreement" with the neighbours who kept us awake till 3:30 am.
-------------------- "The period of Prohibition — called the noble experiment — brought on the greatest breakdown of law and order the United States has known until today. I think there is a lesson here. Do not regulate the private morals of people. Do not tell them what they can take or not take. Because if you do, they will become angry and antisocial and they will get what they want from criminals who are able to work in perfect freedom because they have paid off the police." - Gore Vidal, "The State of the Union" (1975)
Edited by Eagerhunter (05/30/15 06:38 PM)
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NumeroEno
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Re: Peach woods chips for Ps subaerugenosa? [Re: Eagerhunter]
#21742176 - 05/30/15 06:42 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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The smaller chips will colonize faster. Wood loving psilocybes in the US, especially P. cyanescens and P. allenii grow like crazy in hardwood mulch, and it sounds like you just scored a shit ton of hardwood mulch
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Re: Peach woods chips for Ps subaerugenosa? [Re: NumeroEno]
#21742302 - 05/30/15 07:16 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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That species prefers partially aged wood from Pinus radiata.
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NumeroEno
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Re: Peach woods chips for Ps subaerugenosa? [Re: inski]
#21742352 - 05/30/15 07:30 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well damn. I never imagined a psilocybe would like conifer wood. I've only barely started it on agar and I had just planned to grow it on hardwood. I guess I have some more research to do. I hadn't planned on doing it this year though, this year's project is allenii. Next year will be azurescens and subaeruginosa.
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Let it grow! Let it grow! Greatly yield! What shall we say, shall we call it by a name As well to count the angels dancing on a pin Water bright as the sky from which it came And the name is on the earth that takes it in DOG FOOD AGAR MY ELECTRIC INOCULATION LOOP
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NumeroEno
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Re: Peach woods chips for Ps subaerugenosa? [Re: NumeroEno]
#21742821 - 05/30/15 09:30 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Wait a minute. Pinus radiata is native to central California. You must have been talking about allenii.
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Re: Peach woods chips for Ps subaerugenosa? [Re: NumeroEno]
#21743042 - 05/30/15 10:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I've seen subs grow on a crazy amount of different substrates and chips, they really aren't too picky. It also sounds like you scored with the shredded chips they will colonize easier, faster and be easier to spread to more areas.
Always try a small sample batch though to make sure the mycelium takes to it. Only thing you've got to lose then is a small container and win a small container you can now spread to more knowing that it's a good wood.
Good luck man!
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Re: Peach woods chips for Ps subaerugenosa? [Re: motherchimp]
#21743128 - 05/30/15 11:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah I wish the OP good luck as well. My current plan for the subs is to colonize several 5 gallon buckets of wood over the winter to spawn to a bed next spring. This summer I'm just trying for some allenii in my container beds.
Once I get some nice, aggressive, uniform growth with my subs, it's going on a slant until the fall.
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Let it grow! Let it grow! Greatly yield! What shall we say, shall we call it by a name As well to count the angels dancing on a pin Water bright as the sky from which it came And the name is on the earth that takes it in DOG FOOD AGAR MY ELECTRIC INOCULATION LOOP
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Eagerhunter
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Re: Peach woods chips for Ps subaerugenosa? [Re: motherchimp]
#21743592 - 05/31/15 02:09 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'll try it with a small amount - it turned out that the cam on the motor is split and the holding bolt for the blade stripped at the end - so no more wood chips until I get it repaired. But I have ~ 1 cu. foot or more, which will hopefully be enough for starters. Thanks all for your input.
-------------------- "The period of Prohibition — called the noble experiment — brought on the greatest breakdown of law and order the United States has known until today. I think there is a lesson here. Do not regulate the private morals of people. Do not tell them what they can take or not take. Because if you do, they will become angry and antisocial and they will get what they want from criminals who are able to work in perfect freedom because they have paid off the police." - Gore Vidal, "The State of the Union" (1975)
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