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Re: This was all over the news [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #21745769 - 05/31/15 06:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

depends on what state you are in.

in my state that is true.

this was in response to zap

refering to a cop being able to demand your license if you are driving... thats a state by state thing.


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Re: This was all over the news [Re: rxb]
    #21745778 - 05/31/15 06:36 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You give up a lot of rights when you get in a motor vehicle.


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Re: This was all over the news [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21745865 - 05/31/15 07:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Psychonautica said:
Yeah I know that, but the cop still had no reason to even walk up to him and harass him anyways. The suspect made it worse for sure, but the cop was being a piece of shit.



wasn't referring to the video but just watched it and yeah... they're pieces of shit

Not sure that was a racial thing though.


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Re: This was all over the news [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #21745869 - 05/31/15 07:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I mean the cop was "black" I think? Or of some minority.

I dunno, he was barely even tinted but I don't think he was white.


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Re: This was all over the news [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21745886 - 05/31/15 07:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Psychonautica said:
I mean the cop was "black" I think? Or of some minority.

I dunno, he was barely even tinted but I don't think he was white.




yeah he was atleast some black

They woulda most likely fucked with any male in his 20's parked there at night.


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Re: This was all over the news [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21745924 - 05/31/15 07:17 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
You give up a lot of rights when you get in a motor vehicle.




if the state has the law that you must surrender a license on request... you are right

elsewise if you are not suspected of anything you need not show papers.


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Re: This was all over the news [Re: rxb] * 1
    #21745927 - 05/31/15 07:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If a cop ever asks me "Can I see your papers" I'm giving him a pack of rolling papers.


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Re: This was all over the news [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21745958 - 05/31/15 07:27 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

A cop can ask for identification at any time, anywhere, for any reason right? And you must comply? Or is that a state by state thing too.


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Re: This was all over the news [Re: Adden]
    #21745960 - 05/31/15 07:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I dunno about you but I live in America, not Nazi Germany, and we have like, the fourth amendment or whatever.


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Re: This was all over the news [Re: Adden]
    #21745966 - 05/31/15 07:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Cops do dirty shit too like tell people there's been a robbery or a suspect etc and can harass you. Cops are crooked as fuck, but I think if they weren't then there'd be more crime and violence.


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Re: This was all over the news [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #21745970 - 05/31/15 07:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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luvdemboomers said:
Quote:

zZZz said:
My neighbors are black and they're like the quietest people in the world. I really had no idea black people were stereotyped as being loud and obnoxious, if this is true then they sound like my kind of people. :cool:

Anyway black people can be as loud as they want, they were enslaved and mistreated for hundreds of years. everyone, especially the whites, need to give em a fucking break.



So something that happened hundreds of years ago excuses obnoxious behavior?




I just see obnoxiousness as an excuse to be obnoxious myself. U should try it sometime, you'll find that sometimes people are just happy, unless they're always fighting or wutever that's different and people should be more willing to get involved.


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Re: This was all over the news [Re: zZZz]
    #21745987 - 05/31/15 07:36 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Dys said:
zZZz said:
Quote:

luvdemboomers said:
Quote:

zZZz said:
My neighbors are black and they're like the quietest people in the world. I really had no idea black people were stereotyped as being loud and obnoxious, if this is true then they sound like my kind of people. :cool:

Anyway black people can be as loud as they want, they were enslaved and mistreated for hundreds of years. everyone, especially the whites, need to give em a fucking break.



So something that happened hundreds of years ago excuses obnoxious behavior?




I just see obnoxiousness as an excuse to be obnoxious myself. U should try it sometime, you'll find that sometimes people are just happy, unless they're always fighting or wutever that's different and people should be more willing to get involved.




I'm not following you


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Re: This was all over the news [Re: Adden]
    #21745993 - 05/31/15 07:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

There's a ton of other info on this website like what to do at your door, traffic stops, myths, frequently asked etc. 26 states, stop and identify laws. And as zappa said earlier, you lose a lot of rights operating a motor vehicle. I suggest people read the site thoroughly, it never hurts to refresh old data.

When can police ask for ID?


http://www.flexyourrights.org/faqs/when-can-police-ask-for-id/

You’ve probably seen old movies where the protagonist is approached by a Nazi or Soviet guard and ordered to “show your papers.” We know that’s a tell-tale sign of a police state. So if police ever ask you to show ID during your travels, it’s natural to feel violated.

In a free society, citizens who are minding their own business are not obligated to “show their papers” to police. In fact, in the United States there’s no law requiring citizens to carry identification of any kind.

So when can police ask for ID?
Carrying an ID is generally required if you’re driving a vehicle or a passenger on a commercial airline. These requirements have been upheld on the slippery premise that individuals who prefer not to carry ID can choose not to drive or fly.

From here, ID laws only get more complicated. In Hiibel v. Sixth Judicial District Court of Nevada, the Supreme Court upheld state laws requiring citizens to reveal their identity when officers have reasonable suspicion to believe criminal activity may be taking place. Commonly known as “stop-and-identify” statutes, these laws permit police to arrest criminal suspects who refuse to identify themselves.

As of 2013, 24 states had stop-and-identify laws. Regardless of your state’s law, keep in mind that police can never compel you to identify yourself without reasonable suspicion to believe you’re involved in illegal activity.

But how can you tell if an officer asking you to identify yourself has reasonable suspicion? Remember, police need reasonable suspicion to detain you. So one way to tell if they have reasonable suspicion is to determine if you’re free to go. You can do this by saying “Excuse me officer. Are you detaining me, or am I free to go?” If the officer says you’re free to go, leave immediately and don’t answer any more questions.

If you’re detained, you’ll have to decide if withholding your identity is worth the possibility of arrest or a prolonged detention. In cases of mistaken identity, revealing who you are might help to resolve the situation quickly. On the other hand, if you’re on parole in California, for example, revealing your identity could lead to a legal search. Knowing your state’s laws can help you make the best choice.

Remember that the officer’s decision to detain you will not always hold up in court. Reasonable suspicion is a vague legal standard, and police often make mistakes. So if you’re searched or arrested following an officer’s ID request, you may contact an attorney to discuss the incident and explore your legal options.


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Re: This was all over the news [Re: Psychonautica] * 1
    #21746000 - 05/31/15 07:39 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Psychonautica said:
If a cop ever asks me "Can I see your papers" I'm giving him a pack of rolling papers.



Oh that's a good idea.


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Re: This was all over the news [Re: Adden]
    #21746005 - 05/31/15 07:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Dys said:
A cop can ask for identification at any time, anywhere, for any reason right? And you must comply? Or is that a state by state thing too.




Walking down the street?  No.


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Re: This was all over the news [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21746006 - 05/31/15 07:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Zappa how the fuck have you not caught on to the fact that I don't have good idea's yet?


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Re: This was all over the news [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #21746019 - 05/31/15 07:46 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

luvdemboomers said:
Quote:

Dys said:
zZZz said:
Quote:

luvdemboomers said:
Quote:

zZZz said:
My neighbors are black and they're like the quietest people in the world. I really had no idea black people were stereotyped as being loud and obnoxious, if this is true then they sound like my kind of people. :cool:

Anyway black people can be as loud as they want, they were enslaved and mistreated for hundreds of years. everyone, especially the whites, need to give em a fucking break.



So something that happened hundreds of years ago excuses obnoxious behavior?




I just see obnoxiousness as an excuse to be obnoxious myself. U should try it sometime, you'll find that sometimes people are just happy, unless they're always fighting or wutever that's different and people should be more willing to get involved.




I'm not following you




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Re: This was all over the news [Re: Psychonautica] * 1
    #21746023 - 05/31/15 07:48 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

:lolsy:Yes but that is one of your least good ones


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Re: This was all over the news [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
    #21746026 - 05/31/15 07:48 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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:lolsy:Yes but that is one of your least good ones




Quote:

least good




That hurt to read.


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Re: This was all over the news [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21746033 - 05/31/15 07:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I actually edited that from "less good".  To make a point


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