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PatrickKn



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eCig suggestions please
#21740146 - 05/30/15 08:32 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hey guys, it's been a while since I've messed with electronic cigarettes. I was wondering what suggestions you guys would have for a nice one. Like a really nice one with a lot of vapor and stuff. It's a little difficult finding a nice one from google since you're bombarded with shady sites from the get go and a lot seems overpriced.
So any suggestions? I'll be ordering online, so feel free to post links. I know some threads like this have existed, I did a search and couldn't find some direct links that were relatively recent.
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Re: eCig suggestions please [Re: PatrickKn] 1
#21740165 - 05/30/15 08:39 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well before you get into like rda's and vg liquid shit. I'd suggest a sub ohm tank like the aspire...atlantis. It's like 50 bucks for the battery and a nice tank. They're made to go together and it works really good. Nothin too fancy though, but definitely recommend a sub ohm combo.
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Re: eCig suggestions please [Re: King Klick]
#21740438 - 05/30/15 10:08 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I agree with Klick an Aspire Atlantis or a Kanger Subtank on top of a Sigelei 30W box mod would be the easiest options as far as getting into the hobby
But no other device chucks fat clouds as well as a dripper + high wattage box although they are not as easy/convenient to use
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I echo what the others have said. Aspire Atlantis tank for simplicity. Mechanical RDA (dripper) for chucking massive clouds with loads of flavor. I like my build right around .12-.14 ohm's using dual parallel 26ga kanthal wire.
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A little safety tip:
If you're going to be vaping really low ohm builds (like 0.3 ohm and below) on a mechanical mod make sure your batteries can handle the amp load
The equation for converting voltage to amperage is to take the voltage and divide it by the resistance
So for example a 0.12 ohm build on a battery running at 4.2 volts will be drawing 35 amps which is well above the maximum amperage for many batteries (i.e. dangerous)
Sony VTC4s are known as some of the best batteries but there are many fake ones floating around
Samsung 25Rs are more available but they only have a 20 amp limit so they wouldn't be suitable for super low ohm builds
This may sound like a foreign language and if you have a regulated mod or a tank RTA with pre-built coils you don't really have to worry too much about any of this but for running an RDA on a mechanical mod it is mandatory info
Shroomism has a thread in the vaping forum dedicated to it if you'd care to learn more
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A lot of stores are starting to stop selling mechs altogether.
There's too much room for user error especially with people that don't know what they're doing.
I don't think they're going to be around much longer with the regulated mods being as good as they are and only advancing.
My suggestion to you, OP is the MPV3 V3 box mod w/ temp control and the new Kanger Subtank Mini. The old version is great, but the one that just came out recently is better exponentially. Maybe I missed it, but what's your budget for getting started?
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Re: eCig suggestions please [Re: kr0nik0]
#21740637 - 05/30/15 11:05 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah my Sigelei 150W regulated box is better than my Caravela clone mech was in every way
Mechs will likely become an antique kind of concept for people who are used to the simplicity
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Exactly, and not only that, all these new TC mods come with a "Mech Mode" which is basically justt what it sounds like. So the need for an individual mech is obsolete.
I think the way they look is really the only advantage to them.
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Re: eCig suggestions please [Re: kr0nik0]
#21740715 - 05/30/15 11:34 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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If OP is on a tighter budget than what I suggested in my last post, I think the best upgrade for cheap is the new Kanger sub-box mod that comes with the tank.
It looks badass, it gets the most out of the new subtank mini, and it's all you really need until you want to start getting into RDA's at 50+ watts. They've only been around for maybe a week now online so I'm hesitant to suggest it, but if I had money to just buy random devices, I'd definitely have it in my arsenal.
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Re: eCig suggestions please [Re: kr0nik0]
#21740769 - 05/30/15 11:53 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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You can get a good vape out of a dripper at 40 watts
It's just not gonna be instant fat cloud puffs like you can get at higher wattages but you can definitely get thick dense vapor out of a dripper at lower wattages
But as I said before a Subtank on a lower wattage box is probably the best way to go drippers are finicky and require proper technique to use efficiently which takes time and effort to learn
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it's only expensive initially. after u got the battery and tank (most expensive parts)
then you just buy the juice tinctures, $5 worth lasts me over a week
every now and then you need to replace the coils which are like $10 for a pack that lasts over a month
oh and you need a charger for the battery
i have the cheapest "good e-cig" you could probably get and it works just fine. i don't think you need a fancy one unless you specifically WANT a fancy one
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Re: eCig suggestions please [Re: Envix]
#21740828 - 05/30/15 12:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Dude it's so much cheaper than smoking cigarettes once you invest in a quality device
I make my own juice and I'd say it probably costs me roughly $5 a week to vape as much as I want all day every day
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Re: eCig suggestions please [Re: PatrickKn]
#21740843 - 05/30/15 12:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I just got my new set up in yesterday (Subtank Nano and iStick 50w) and am very happy with it. I'd definitely recommend it. I got mine at MyVaporStore.
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Re: eCig suggestions please [Re: Shroomslip]
#21740876 - 05/30/15 12:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Shroomslip...Nooooo! lol
Please tell me you bought it from a vendor or B&M that accepts returns/exchanges. They are literally fucking bombs and they only last from a few weeks to a few months max.
I got mine in early-mid March and have already run into autofire issues several times. Once it auto fires, the automatic 10 second cut off doesn't work so all you can do is unscrew the atty as fast as possible before burning yourself or your house down.
Out of the 1000 or so people that post in the e-cig subreddit that have an iStick50, including myself, nearly 200 have had their mod either fail on them completely or autofire like I described. If you do plan on keeping it, at least be safe. Never leave it unattended with an atty on it, and charge it on a surface that can't catch fire. I charge mine outside on my balcony.
The other bug with it is that if you slap an atty on there and it shorts, you have no way of turning it back on until you can plug it back in the charger. Same thing happens if you put an atty on there that has a build under .2ohms.
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Re: eCig suggestions please [Re: kr0nik0]
#21740900 - 05/30/15 12:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I don't plan to build any lower than .5 ohms. Right now I'm at .6 and that's fine for me.
As for defects I'm pretty lucky generally. Almost everything I buy that people say they have screw up, just doesn't happen for me. We'll see I guess.
When I get a job I plan to upgrade the battery anyways.
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Re: eCig suggestions please [Re: Shroomslip]
#21740935 - 05/30/15 12:40 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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It turning off because of low resistance builds is just something annoying, but not a big issue. It becomes an issue when the chip starts to read out the wrong resistances and shuts off anyways.
I love the device, but it honestly scares me. By upgrading the batteries you mean taking it apart and changing the two 18650's that are built in?
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Re: eCig suggestions please [Re: kr0nik0]
#21740941 - 05/30/15 12:42 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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No I mean getting something more high end. This set up was something I was trying to do cheaply while still being decent. Pen vape just wasn't doing it for me anymore, I was gonna end up blowing the damn thing up because I kept it hot from overuse.
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Re: eCig suggestions please [Re: Shroomslip]
#21740987 - 05/30/15 12:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yea, I gotcha man. Well you'll definitely enjoy the device. Hell, I'm using one right now with a Derringer RDA on it. It's vaping like a champ. I was just pointing out it has a lot of issues so that if/when they happen, you're ready for it.
I got a tip for you. Clean out the 510 connection on it at least once every couple days because when juice builds up in there it tends to autofire without even you touching the fire button. That's why I said, don't leave it unattended with an atty on it.
I feel you on the pen vape. I started out on a 650mah ego style pen and within 4 days I figured that it wasn't gonna cut it for me in terms of vapor production and flavor.
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Re: eCig suggestions please [Re: kr0nik0]
#21741009 - 05/30/15 01:01 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah I remember, I was helping you with the ecig stuff, then I take a look in the ecig forum and you know more than I do now.. lol. I never really thought of it as a hobby or anything though. It was just a means to an end and still is. Been spoiled by nicotine now and just can't get by without it. I quit the vape, I'll go back to cigs again.
I'm used to cleaning out the connections regularly. I had to do it every charge on my pen vape. I was honestly kinda shocked when I went to refill the tank on the new setup and saw that it was bone dry. Not used to seeing that.
I underestimated how much juice a setup like this goes through though.. I'm definitely gonna have to look into making my own.
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Re: eCig suggestions please [Re: Shroomslip]
#21741065 - 05/30/15 01:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Half the idea behind getting a decent device in the first place is so you will be satisfied so you DONT go back to the cigs
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Re: eCig suggestions please [Re: Shroomslip]
#21741067 - 05/30/15 01:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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It's a really fun hobby IMO
Sure as hell saves me a fuckton of money that would've otherwise been spent on cigs
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Re: eCig suggestions please [Re: Shroomslip]
#21741129 - 05/30/15 01:40 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Shroomslip said: Yeah I remember, I was helping you with the ecig stuff, then I take a look in the ecig forum and you know more than I do now.. lol. I never really thought of it as a hobby or anything though. It was just a means to an end and still is. Been spoiled by nicotine now and just can't get by without it. I quit the vape, I'll go back to cigs again.
I'm used to cleaning out the connections regularly. I had to do it every charge on my pen vape. I was honestly kinda shocked when I went to refill the tank on the new setup and saw that it was bone dry. Not used to seeing that.
I underestimated how much juice a setup like this goes through though.. I'm definitely gonna have to look into making my own.
That's right, I forgot you had helped me out. You were giving me advice when I got my little starter kit. I dove into is as a hobby from the first day. Just found it extremely intriguing since I've always loved working with small, electrical components
With the juice I went from vaping maybe 3-4ml on the ego a day 10-15ml running the subtank. It's just so satisfying to get a lot of dense, warm vapor in your lungs. It gets pretty expensive, especially if you buy from vape shops. I just started tinkering around with making my own juice recently but still buy premium/brand name once every week or 2.
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Re: eCig suggestions please [Re: kr0nik0]
#21741151 - 05/30/15 01:48 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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A lot of vendor juice is really overpriced
Seduce Juice isn't bad $15 a 30mL and their juice is delicious quality stuff kinda the golden standard for me since their juice was all I vaped for months
But that's still too much for me now when I can make really tasty juices of my own for $3 a 30mL
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Where do you get the supplies to make your own? Do you just kinda shop around or is there somewhere particular most people turn to?
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Yea, I've used seducejuice.com quite a few times since you told me about it. A hell of a lot cheaper than a B&M with very high quality juices lines.
I also use jaxxjuice.com for when I get tighter on my budget. It comes out to just a bit more than making your own. The flavors are limited and not all of them are great but for that kind of money it's hard to complain.
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Re: eCig suggestions please [Re: Shroomslip]
#21741189 - 05/30/15 01:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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There's a DIY juice thread in the vape forum
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Re: eCig suggestions please [Re: Shroomslip]
#21741196 - 05/30/15 01:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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There's a huge thread about it in the vaping forum on this website if you skim through that you could learn everything you need to know
But basically I put an empty bottle on a scale tare it out and add my ingredients by weight one by one
It does involve working with concentrated nicotine solution which is very toxic upon contact with the skin or eyes - I wear arm length chem-resistant gloves and use the utmost caution whenever I work with the solution and I don't suggest most people try this unless they really know what they're doing,and be as careful as possible
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Hey Mr. Johnson, I feel like I should chime in what do you think?
I don't know shit about e-cigs. lel.
I had an Ego Twist at one point, which is like a 20 dollar e cig hahah, but that's all.
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The cheap ones suck shit.. eGos, pen vapes, cigalikes, all trash designed to frustrate you and get you back to smoking
What I started on and what I used to kick the cigs was an iTaste MVP 2.0 (I believe a new version is out) and a Kanger Aerotank v2.. I got them with a few packs of extra 1.2 ohm coils and a nice selection of 18mg Seduce juice.. the night it all arrived in the mail I crushed my cigarettes and switched finding that the vape completely satisfied my cravings
I used that setup for months and it worked very well for me, although maintenance/cleaning was a bit annoying and time-consuming and eventually the threads became stripped on the Aerotank from taking it apart so many times and it simply wouldn't cooperate anymore
That's when I stepped up to a mechanical mod + dripper but I don't recommend that for a beginner I'd say the MVP + Aerotank is a good cheap choice I know it worked for me I got off cigarettes in a night with that device and stayed off them because it satisfied me
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the eGo is better than the ones that look like cigs though, my dad has one of those and he always complains about how E-cigs suck dick and its like no pops, you just bought a really shitty one.
I can get fatter nicer hits from an e-cig than a real cig.
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The cigalikes are at the bottom of the chain eGos aren't as bad but still pretty bad there's much better devices for the money
The MVP + Aerotank had a nice amount of vapor I'd say more than a cigarette could put out but the throat hit from 18mg juice really did it for me I needed that to get off the cigs
Now things are a little different though I run a dripper through a regulated box mod at 75-100 watts and blow enormous smooth delicious rainclouds that inspire shock and awe in any who have not seen such a thing before
Inversely however I dropped to 6mg e-juice so the amount of nicotine I get from vaping in a day is equal to about 2-3 cigarettes
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Don't cigarettes on average have 2mg's of nicotine each? I dropped to 3mg in the RTA and drip 3mg as well now. Sometimes even dilute what I drip with VG down to 1.5-2mg. At 10ml a day of 3mg, wouldn't that be the nicotine equivalent of 15 cigarettes?
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Re: eCig suggestions please [Re: kr0nik0]
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I dunno, I can't really even compare the two though, because the effects of both are so fucking different.
I might get an E-cig just to practice smoke tricks but I dunno, I could also just smoke weed for that.
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You have to want to quit smoking for it to work for that or you'll just do both
I was sick of being a smoker having to go outside for every cigarette smelling like ash all the time chest hurting not being able to breathe deeply enough
I'd had enough of it but I couldn't quit cold turkey I tried that so many times same shit every time
After over half a year being smoke-free for the most part aside from a few meth binges here and there, my lungs feel so much better than they used to.. I don't wake up in the morning with that feeling in my chest like I'm dying from the inside out anymore and to me that's worth being smoke-free
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I've already quit man. I quit cold turkey.
Unless you didn't mean to reply to me in which case, my bad.
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Re: eCig suggestions please [Re: kr0nik0]
#21741525 - 05/30/15 03:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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kr0nik0 said: Don't cigarettes on average have 2mg's of nicotine each? I dropped to 3mg in the RTA and drip 3mg as well now. Sometimes even dilute what I drip with VG down to 1.5-2mg. At 10ml a day of 3mg, wouldn't that be the nicotine equivalent of 15 cigarettes?
You ingest about a milligram of nicotine from smoking the average cigarette
3mg e-juice has 3mg of nicotine per mL but your lungs only absorb a fraction of that amount
So depending on the strength of your juice you could be ingesting more nicotine from a vape than you would from a cig but it won't necessarily be pleasant or feel like a cig
To get more of a cigarette kind of buzz from a vape you have to vape juice infused with the natural MAOIs found in tobacco.. my homemade tobacco flavors made from premium tobacco extracts are delicious and really hit the spot but to get more of that effect you could just buy whole-tobacco alkaloid juice or perform a propylene glycol extraction on a cigarette of your choice and use that in a certain percentage when you mix your juice
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Psychonautica said: I've already quit man. I quit cold turkey.
Unless you didn't mean to reply to me in which case, my bad.
It was more of a general comment than a reply to you in particular
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How much ML's do you think are vaped with each hit?
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Thanks for clearing it up man. That's the one thing I never got a straight answer about until now since I didn't know how much of the nicotine was metabolized through vaping vs smoking.
I feel a lot better about it now. I was thinking I was getting the equivalent of 45+ cigs a day of nicotine on days I vaped 15ml at 6mg/ml.
I've never gotten a nicotine buzz from vaping though. I haven't gotten a true, feel good nicotine buzz since I was probably in my late teens. Also got them the few times where I quit for 48 hours then had that first cigarette after trying to quit.
I was talking to a member on reddit the other day about the possible harm of vaping and luckily he works at a research lab (not sure what he researches) where he'll have access to a GS/MS very soon. He's going to start analyzing, or rather trying to find every component/chemical that we inhale by using multiple atty's, power levels, different wires, etc.
Should make for an awesome study and I can't wait to see the results.
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Psychonautica said: How much ML's do you think are vaped with each hit?
On the Subtank, it's hard for me to estimate as 5ml (full tank) will last me roughly 6-8 hours.
When using a dripper, I'll probably go through 1ml with each hit running a low ohm, dual coil setup and .5ml in single coil mode which I've been finding more pleasurable recently.
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Re: eCig suggestions please [Re: kr0nik0]
#21741599 - 05/30/15 03:48 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I only run single coils really they're less of a pain in the ass than duals IMO and I usually build them down to like 0.2 or 0.3 ohms so they kick just fine by themselves
And I dunno these days I get more satisfaction just watching those monster clouds billow out of my mouth than I do from the feeling itself
I guess you could say I'm a cloud chaser but I like good flavor too
And nicotine has quite a few health benefits on its own
As for how much per hit it's hard to say I probably pump like 1-2mL into my dripper every time it starts to get dry and that'll last for like 10 hits
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I dunno about health benefits but I know nicotine makes you function better mentally, It's a cognitive enhancer but I wouldn't call that health benefits.
Are there other benefits I'm not aware of?
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Hmm. Maybe I overestimated 1/2ml per hit then.
At 45 watts right now on single coil mode I get 3-4 good billows of vapor on the Derringer. Keep in mind the juicewell is super tiny on it but either way, it's more likely 1/4ml per hit.
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OhMrJohnson said: The cigalikes are at the bottom of the chain eGos aren't as bad but still pretty bad there's much better devices for the money
The MVP + Aerotank had a nice amount of vapor I'd say more than a cigarette could put out but the throat hit from 18mg juice really did it for me I needed that to get off the cigs
Now things are a little different though I run a dripper through a regulated box mod at 75-100 watts and blow enormous smooth delicious rainclouds that inspire shock and awe in any who have not seen such a thing before
Inversely however I dropped to 6mg e-juice so the amount of nicotine I get from vaping in a day is equal to about 2-3 cigarettes
+1 those cigalikes all suck ass and the egos aren't much better, although they are a step above.
MVP + Aero is good but I think there are better things now that I would recommend for noobs looking for a solid device, such as the Siegeli 30w + Subtank or Herakles
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Re: eCig suggestions please [Re: Shroomism]
#21741889 - 05/30/15 05:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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The Arctic tank looks like it's a good choice as well but I think the Atlantis V2 is the best bet right now for the price when it comes to tanks. All this is a matter of preference though.
Have you seen the new RBA sections and OCC vertical coil heads for the Subtanks? Kanger is a great company when it comes to listening to what their consumers want and fixing it quickly. They finally made the RBA less restrictive with both air & juice flow which was my only complaint with it.
The OCC heads were also made less restrictive, just in the juice channels I believe but the vertical coil also allows for more airflow. To top it all off their new Sub box mod kit is a perfect starter kit.
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Re: eCig suggestions please [Re: kr0nik0]
#21741959 - 05/30/15 05:48 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Heard some mixed reviews on the Arctic so not really sold on that one.. The Herakles though I've heard nothing but absolutely good reviews on it so I'm probably going with that one for a sub-ohm tank.
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Re: eCig suggestions please [Re: Shroomism]
#21742103 - 05/30/15 06:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Indeed. Everyone I've spoken with that's gotten a Herakles recently loves it. When I upgraded from the Subtank Nano to the Mini the Herak was already out, but I really don't like the fact that you can only use the pre built coil heads so I passed on it even though they were the same price roughly.
If it had an RBA section it would blow every other RTA out of the water I think.
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Re: eCig suggestions please [Re: kr0nik0]
#21742114 - 05/30/15 06:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Anyone know if they make E-cig tanks to plug into a G-pen?
I don't care if it "sucks" considering an eGo was good enough for me.
I just smoke cigs whenever I nod out on opiates, or get drunk, or do stimulants so I'd like to cut those out too, but I don't want to have to invest in a e-cig considering it's cheaper to just buy a pack since I smoke like 2 cigs a month.
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I don't see any reason why the Gpen battery wouldn't work on an eGo/eGo style tank.
It sucks that it doesn't list any specs on their website but in the pictures it looks like it has a recessed 510 threading. So you would need an eGo adapter which is only 1-2 dollars then you can screw in whatever eGo style tank you want in there.
The battery for the GPen looks like it might be a 1000maH battery, do you by any chance know the specs on it?
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Re: eCig suggestions please [Re: kr0nik0]
#21742202 - 05/30/15 06:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Actually no, I've even been googling it trying to find out, nothing at all
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http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/New-E-cig-Atomizer-Cartridge-E-Liquid-Tank-for-Micro-G-Pen-Elips-Atmo-Cloud-Vape/1451102_2042243761.html
I found one.
I might buy it and let you guys know how it works.
Then again I still have a pack of smokes with two cigs smoked out of it, that's all. So I probably wont buy it, because I can't justify needing it, yet.
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Most likely doesn't use the same style of connection then. Seems like it only works with the tank designed for it.
I have a 1000maH ego style pen (2.5ml tank) with pass through and variable voltage to 4.2volts I can part ways with for 15 bucks since that's what you're looking for. I only used it for a week and it's been in the box since.
PM me if you're interested in buying it.
Edit: And it's the whole starer kit. It has 3 extra atomizers, the Wall adapter and micro USB cable.
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Re: eCig suggestions please [Re: kr0nik0]
#21742226 - 05/30/15 06:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Considering an eGo, sells for like 20 dollars new, My offer to buy it would most likely be insulting to you. Hahaha.
You'd have to beat 12 bucks since that's what it would cost to turn my G pen into an E-cig.
but I think those atomizers for turning a G pen would burn out over time though, just like a regular G pen atomizer.
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Psychonautica said: http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/New-E-cig-Atomizer-Cartridge-E-Liquid-Tank-for-Micro-G-Pen-Elips-Atmo-Cloud-Vape/1451102_2042243761.html
This thing is funky looking. It looks like there's no atomizer, or it's inside the chimney. Maybe I'm just too high, but I can't figure out how that tank would work. I wonder if it just heats up the chimney section until the juice vaporizes.
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Re: eCig suggestions please [Re: kr0nik0]
#21742235 - 05/30/15 06:57 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I don't even know how regular E-cigs work, so I couldn't tell you man.
It's got 11 Five star reviews though, I'm really doubting that websites integrity with that. No way that got that good of reviews.
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Yea, I'm in no desperate need for $12. I was just trying to help you out if you wouldn't of found anything.
Can you really get a 1000mah/variable voltage starter kit for only $20? I paid 50 for it, but I got ripped off and hadn't done any research on vaping at the time.
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Re: eCig suggestions please [Re: kr0nik0]
#21742252 - 05/30/15 07:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Erhm.
No.
But you can buy just the battery for like 20 dollars. Lemme find a link. I was looking at picking another one up since I gave mine away after I quit smoking.
Yeah my offer for you would have been like 15 bucks just because it has the tank too so I didn't bother.
I'm not really interested in spending more than 20 on an e-cig just because I would never use it. I already only smoke like 2 cigs a month, I only smoke everytime I get REALLY muffed up, so if I could eliminate those 2 cigs as well I'd be stoked on that.
I found one cheaper, the first one I looked at was 22 and some change, this one is 13.50
https://www.myfreedomsmokes.com/joyetech-ego-c-twist-variable-voltage-1000mah-battery.html
You got robbed, son.
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Yea. The place I went to is called VaporFi. They are like a franchise if B&M's all over South Florida which apparently don't give a damn about their customers. It's just overpriced vape gear in really fancy packaging.
They wouldn't return my vape after 4 days and I can somewhat understand since I used it, but them assholes wouldn't even exchange it for juice which I would've been more than happy with. They said "the only thing you can exchange it for is an upgrade."
It's all good though, there's a few B&M's that opened up recently in the neighborhood and they've completely stolen away all their business. It won't be long until they go under.
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Re: eCig suggestions please [Re: kr0nik0]
#21742370 - 05/30/15 07:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Wow that's crazy, my local shop was super cool about everything. I've even returned bong slides and shit before.
They sell some no name tanks for like 5 bucks too, I think I might snag that ego battery for the 13 dollars and score one of those garbage tanks to go with it so I can just rock a ghetto ass pneumonia machine when I need to smoke.
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