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Re: eCig suggestions please [Re: Shroomslip]
    #21741067 - 05/30/15 01:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

It's a really fun hobby IMO

Sure as hell saves me a fuckton of money that would've otherwise been spent on cigs


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Re: eCig suggestions please [Re: Shroomslip]
    #21741129 - 05/30/15 01:40 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Yeah I remember, I was helping you with the ecig stuff, then I take a look in the ecig forum and you know more than I do now.. lol. I never really thought of it as a hobby or anything though. It was just a means to an end and still is. :shrug: Been spoiled by nicotine now and just can't get by without it. I quit the vape, I'll go back to cigs again.

I'm used to cleaning out the connections regularly. I had to do it every charge on my pen vape. I was honestly kinda shocked when I went to refill the tank on the new setup and saw that it was bone dry. Not used to seeing that.

I underestimated how much juice a setup like this goes through though.. I'm definitely gonna have to look into making my own.




That's right, I forgot you had helped me out. You were giving me advice when I got my little starter kit.
I dove into is as a hobby from the first day. Just found it extremely intriguing since I've always loved working with small, electrical components

With the juice I went from vaping maybe 3-4ml on the ego a day 10-15ml running the subtank. It's just so satisfying to get a lot of dense, warm vapor in your lungs. It gets pretty expensive, especially if you buy from vape shops. I just started tinkering around with making my own juice recently but still buy premium/brand name once every week or 2.


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mad to be saved,
desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and everybody goes “Awww!”



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InvisibleOhMrJohnson
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Re: eCig suggestions please [Re: kr0nik0]
    #21741151 - 05/30/15 01:48 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

A lot of vendor juice is really overpriced

Seduce Juice isn't bad $15 a 30mL and their juice is delicious quality stuff kinda the golden standard for me since their juice was all I vaped for months

But that's still too much for me now when I can make really tasty juices of my own for $3 a 30mL


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Re: eCig suggestions please [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #21741162 - 05/30/15 01:50 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Where do you get the supplies to make your own? Do you just kinda shop around or is there somewhere particular most people turn to?


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Re: eCig suggestions please [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #21741187 - 05/30/15 01:56 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yea, I've used seducejuice.com quite a few times since you told me about it. A hell of a lot cheaper than a B&M with very high quality juices lines.

I also use jaxxjuice.com for when I get tighter on my budget. It comes out to just a bit more than making your own. The flavors are limited and not all of them are great but for that kind of money it's hard to complain.


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the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk,
mad to be saved,
desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and everybody goes “Awww!”



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Re: eCig suggestions please [Re: Shroomslip]
    #21741189 - 05/30/15 01:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

There's a DIY juice thread in the vape forum


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Re: eCig suggestions please [Re: Shroomslip]
    #21741196 - 05/30/15 01:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

There's a huge thread about it in the vaping forum on this website if you skim through that you could learn everything you need to know

But basically I put an empty bottle on a scale tare it out and add my ingredients by weight one by one

It does involve working with concentrated nicotine solution which is very toxic upon contact with the skin or eyes - I wear arm length chem-resistant gloves and use the utmost caution whenever I work with the solution and I don't suggest most people try this unless they really know what they're doing,and be as careful as possible


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Re: eCig suggestions please [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #21741244 - 05/30/15 02:14 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Hey Mr. Johnson, I feel like I should chime in what do you think?
:douchewink:

I don't know shit about e-cigs. lel.

I had an Ego Twist at one point, which is like a 20 dollar e cig hahah, but that's all.


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Re: eCig suggestions please [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21741331 - 05/30/15 02:43 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

The cheap ones suck shit.. eGos, pen vapes, cigalikes, all trash designed to frustrate you and get you back to smoking

What I started on and what I used to kick the cigs was an iTaste MVP 2.0 (I believe a new version is out) and a Kanger Aerotank v2.. I got them with a few packs of extra 1.2 ohm coils and a nice selection of 18mg Seduce juice.. the night it all arrived in the mail I crushed my cigarettes and switched finding that the vape completely satisfied my cravings

I used that setup for months and it worked very well for me, although maintenance/cleaning was a bit annoying and time-consuming and eventually the threads became stripped on the Aerotank from taking it apart so many times and it simply wouldn't cooperate anymore

That's when I stepped up to a mechanical mod + dripper but I don't recommend that for a beginner I'd say the MVP + Aerotank is a good cheap choice I know it worked for me I got off cigarettes in a night with that device and stayed off them because it satisfied me


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Re: eCig suggestions please [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #21741360 - 05/30/15 02:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

the eGo is better than the ones that look like cigs though, my dad has one of those and he always complains about how E-cigs suck dick and its like no pops, you just bought a really shitty one.

I can get fatter nicer hits from an e-cig than a real cig.


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Re: eCig suggestions please [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21741416 - 05/30/15 03:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

The cigalikes are at the bottom of the chain eGos aren't as bad but still pretty bad there's much better devices for the money

The MVP + Aerotank had a nice amount of vapor I'd say more than a cigarette could put out but the throat hit from 18mg juice really did it for me I needed that to get off the cigs

Now things are a little different though I run a dripper through a regulated box mod at 75-100 watts and blow enormous smooth delicious rainclouds that inspire shock and awe in any who have not seen such a thing before

Inversely however I dropped to 6mg e-juice so the amount of nicotine I get from vaping in a day is equal to about 2-3 cigarettes


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Re: eCig suggestions please [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #21741450 - 05/30/15 03:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Don't cigarettes on average have 2mg's of nicotine each?
I dropped to 3mg in the RTA and drip 3mg as well now. Sometimes even dilute what I drip with VG down to 1.5-2mg.
At 10ml a day of 3mg, wouldn't that be the nicotine equivalent of 15 cigarettes?


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the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk,
mad to be saved,
desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and everybody goes “Awww!”



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Re: eCig suggestions please [Re: kr0nik0]
    #21741482 - 05/30/15 03:14 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I dunno, I can't really even compare the two though, because the effects of both are so fucking different.


I might get an E-cig just to practice smoke tricks but I dunno, I could also just smoke weed for that.


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Re: eCig suggestions please [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21741502 - 05/30/15 03:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You have to want to quit smoking for it to work for that or you'll just do both

I was sick of being a smoker having to go outside for every cigarette smelling like ash all the time chest hurting not being able to breathe deeply enough

I'd had enough of it but I couldn't quit cold turkey I tried that so many times same shit every time

After over half a year being smoke-free for the most part aside from a few meth binges here and there, my lungs feel so much better than they used to.. I don't wake up in the morning with that feeling in my chest like I'm dying from the inside out anymore and to me that's worth being smoke-free


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Re: eCig suggestions please [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #21741509 - 05/30/15 03:21 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I've already quit man. I quit cold turkey.


Unless you didn't mean to reply to me in which case, my bad.


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Re: eCig suggestions please [Re: kr0nik0]
    #21741525 - 05/30/15 03:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

kr0nik0 said:
Don't cigarettes on average have 2mg's of nicotine each?
I dropped to 3mg in the RTA and drip 3mg as well now. Sometimes even dilute what I drip with VG down to 1.5-2mg.
At 10ml a day of 3mg, wouldn't that be the nicotine equivalent of 15 cigarettes?




You ingest about a milligram of nicotine from smoking the average cigarette

3mg e-juice has 3mg of nicotine per mL but your lungs only absorb a fraction of that amount

So depending on the strength of your juice you could be ingesting more nicotine from a vape than you would from a cig but it won't necessarily be pleasant or feel like a cig

To get more of a cigarette kind of buzz from a vape you have to vape juice infused with the natural MAOIs found in tobacco.. my homemade tobacco flavors made from premium tobacco extracts are delicious and really hit the spot but to get more of that effect you could just buy whole-tobacco alkaloid juice or perform a propylene glycol extraction on a cigarette of your choice and use that in a certain percentage when you mix your juice


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Re: eCig suggestions please [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21741535 - 05/30/15 03:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Psychonautica said:
I've already quit man. I quit cold turkey.


Unless you didn't mean to reply to me in which case, my bad.




It was more of a general comment than a reply to you in particular


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Re: eCig suggestions please [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #21741562 - 05/30/15 03:36 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

How much ML's do you think are vaped with each hit?


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Re: eCig suggestions please [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #21741569 - 05/30/15 03:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks for clearing it up man.
That's the one thing I never got a straight answer about until now since I didn't know how much of the nicotine was metabolized through vaping vs smoking.

I feel a lot better about it now. I was thinking I was getting the equivalent of 45+ cigs a day of nicotine on days I vaped 15ml at 6mg/ml.

I've never gotten a nicotine buzz from vaping though. I haven't gotten a true, feel good nicotine buzz since I was probably in my late teens. Also got them the few times where I quit for 48 hours then had that first cigarette after trying to quit.

I was talking to a member on reddit the other day about the possible harm of vaping and luckily he works at a research lab (not sure what he researches) where he'll have access to a GS/MS very soon. He's going to start analyzing, or rather trying to find every component/chemical that we inhale by using multiple atty's, power levels, different wires, etc.

Should make for an awesome study and I can't wait to see the results.


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the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk,
mad to be saved,
desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and everybody goes “Awww!”



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Re: eCig suggestions please [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21741577 - 05/30/15 03:39 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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How much ML's do you think are vaped with each hit?




On the Subtank, it's hard for me to estimate as 5ml (full tank) will last me roughly 6-8 hours.

When using a dripper, I'll probably go through 1ml with each hit running a low ohm, dual coil setup and .5ml in single coil mode which I've been finding more pleasurable recently.


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the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk,
mad to be saved,
desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and everybody goes “Awww!”



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